Royal Mint - Great Engravers 2021 - Gothic Crown information

[Zhorro]

3 hours ago, Foster88 said:

I can’t belive after the fiasco of the 2022 proof sovereigns arriving with open capsules that it’s still happening. 😕

With the sovereign, they started to put a piece of foam over the capsule in order to keep it in place - have they done that with this latest release?

[Gordy]

10 minutes ago, AR03 said:

Beautiful coin

Portrait is much nicer than the quartered arms and that is nice in its own way... great set 👍

[James32]

1 minute ago, Zhorro said:

With the sovereign, they started to put a piece of foam over the capsule in order to keep it in place - have they done that with this latest release?

Nope...must have ran out of camping mattresses 

[AR03]

7 hours ago, apachebleu said:

 I am really disappointed for you but from a community point of view I am glad that this is repeatedly happening to someone with a strong social media presence and an outlet for making this public (hope that comes across in the spirit I intend).

 We do need people who can make a stink that the RM cannot easily ignore or fob off like they will with individual complaints. Hopefully your videos and letters can make a difference.

 

 Funny though how they can find pf70's for certain dealers but can't even be arsed doing a basic check for the average punter. I really do believe at this point top coins are being cherry picked out and the leftovers sold to us

I don't think RM employees have the time to cherry pick for anyone.... They just are too tired packing all the coins that the RM are releasing every week, there's only so much they can do.

[JeffM]

12 minutes ago, AR03 said:

I don't think RM employees have the time to cherry pick for anyone.... They just are too tired packing all the coins that the RM are releasing every week, there's only so much they can do.

Very true.  And the RM couldn't care less if you send the coins back.  The stress and disappointment are yours not the RM's.  They will either fix and re-sell them or melt them.  And, they know you will be back for more with their next offering.

[BackyardBullion]

You all thought my capsule was bad...

Check this out.

 

 

[NewCoins]

10 minutes ago, BackyardBullion said:

You all thought my capsule was bad...

Check this out.

 

 

It's making me dread my delivery 😬

[Ashes]

Seems I may have got lucky with mine. Capsule in place and closed with no damage that I can see to the frosting or polished fields. Think the small specs on the pictures appear to be dust particles. 
 

I’m so sorry to see all the disappointed people who have once again been let down by the RM quality control. 

Edited February 9, 2022 by Ashes

[Ashes]

7 minutes ago, Ashes said:

Seems I may have got lucky with mine. Capsule in place and closed with no damage that I can see to the frosting or polished fields. Think the small specs on the pictures appear to be dust particles. 
 

I’m so sorry to see all the disappointed people who have once again been let down by the RM quality control. 

Upon further inspection it looks like there is a tiny bit of frosting missing from the crown on the Gothic Portrait side. Not going to bother returning it for that though. 

[jultorsk]

29 minutes ago, BackyardBullion said:

You all thought my capsule was bad...

Check this out.

 

 

 

Real shame about the capsule. Not good at all.

But, just to continue the speculation; the COA seems to contradict the RM website re Portrait mintage? Says LEP is 3'750 and max 4'006, just as Arms' was. 🤔

 

[Samcrewsilverlover]

1 hour ago, magpie79 said:

Open the box to a “fingers crossed “ and thought to myself, exactly that !

not great news and will return 

What's the problem?????

[NewCoins]

2 minutes ago, jultorsk said:

 

Real shame about the capsule. Not good at all.

But, just to continue the speculation; the COA seems to contradict the RM website re Portrait mintage? Says LEP is 3'750 and max 4'006, just as Arms' was. 🤔

 

They have made a mistake somewhere!

[Samcrewsilverlover]

Never???? The RM don't are mistakes,unheard of...🤣🤣🤣

[Ashes]

5 minutes ago, jultorsk said:

 

Real shame about the capsule. Not good at all.

But, just to continue the speculation; the COA seems to contradict the RM website re Portrait mintage? Says LEP is 3'750 and max 4'006, just as Arms' was. 🤔

 

You're right about there being an error somewhere. Either on the COA booklet or the website. 250 coin discrepency. Come on Royal Mint.... you'd think they know the mintage of their own coins!

[Robda1986]

3205 is the highest coa I've seen or can find anyone know of 3750 or higher? 

[Alz111]

Queue on at the Royal mint website and schedule maintenance 😀

[PhilB]

2 hours ago, AR03 said:

I don't think RM employees have the time to cherry pick for anyone.... They just are too tired packing all the coins that the RM are releasing every week, there's only so much they can do.

I cannot believe that these coins have not had the better ones picked out!! 

I also rsceived the silver 2oz portrait coin today which like the QA coin appears to have been packed in a talcum powder factory!! The capsule was open on the portrait and I will certainly never buy another silver proof coin frtom RM again. Gold only which shows what quality they are capable of producing. I believe theseto be the remnants after picking for grading or dealers possibly. Never again. 

Why can I buy Perth mint nonproof or Munich mint products such as the Somalian elephants at a fraction of the cost of these proofs with quality far superior?? 

The silver portraits we have seen on here today looks like the trainee dept have been left alone with no supervision! 

Very disappointing, pre selected silver coins I suspect, and not for me! 

[PhilB]

I think William Wyon would be non too impressed if he saw what the Royal Mint were sending out when paying " tribute to one of the most talented engravers to work on British coinage" 

[PhilB]

Beautiful design though. Well done sir.

I think that over the past 100 years the 1989 sovereign is the closest design to anything of the quality produced by William wyon 

[CadmiumGreen]

Can’t wait to see what these will look like in 175 years…glorious, I can only imagine…perhaps much like the original 1847 release…Portrait inbound. Appreciative of being a part of this historical remake. Enjoy the moments of why we are a close knit coin collecting, numismatic community…

[apachebleu]

I would hope if people get damaged portraits and the mint can't be arsed replacing them they will at least be offered a refund on the quartered arms if they want it...it is supposed to be a set after all

[GoldDiggerDave]

2 hours ago, CadmiumGreen said:

Can’t wait to see what these will look like in 175 years…glorious, I can only imagine…perhaps much like the original 1847 release…Portrait inbound. Appreciative of being a part of this historical remake. Enjoy the moments of why we are a close knit coin collecting, numismatic community…

We need some brave enough to artificially tone one of these silver portraits so we could see one in our lifetime.

[NewCoins]

8 minutes ago, apachebleu said:

I would hope if people get damaged portraits and the mint can't be arsed replacing them they will at least be offered a refund on the quartered arms if they want it...it is supposed to be a set after all

Exactly this.

For me the Mint has an obligation to make sure every one with the quartered arms has an acceptable portrait.

[NewCoins]

In fact, I am already writing a strongly worded letter in anticipation!

I think everyone who isn't happy needs to be very firm with the Royal Mint. Hopefully if there are enough voices they will be obliged to do the right thing

[TheShinyStuff]

1 hour ago, GoldDiggerDave said:

We need some brave enough to artificially tone one of these silver portraits so we could see one in our lifetime.

On you go then...