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Oh yeah now I know more please disregard my predictions completely Now more like Gold $2500 sometime in 2021 Silver $65 sometime in 2021    

My bank won’t lend me money despite being what you might call a good customer with assets.  They are however very very keen to try and sell me products I don’t want.    I have always worked for investment banks and just map ways despair when trying to do anything with a retail bank.  Very hard, inflexible, not business friendly wheatever they say.    Best Dicker

Already completely off with your time scale, particularly for silver. I'm still in the race with my prediction. 😝  

Sorry Lawrence, yes the last three are around the Royal Mint and there bullion coins like the Queens Beast Lion that they add huge premiums on based off the secondary market prices they see, I thought this would be wrong in some way and they should surely only be able to increase a bullion coin in line with spot increases not a secondary market price.   For all of the above sorry to be unclear, It was one question trying to clarify where does the investment and numismatic lines cross because from my understanding if its numismatic its no longer a investment coin though still classed as a investment coin by its weight, denomination and purity. What ive read has said there is a distinction between them. If for example if i bought silver Maples from Canada directly not for resale  I could import them with only 5% VAT as they are classed as numismatic (doesnt apply if you are buying to sell in the UK or say a dealer).  That raises the question, by changing the original coin the Royal Mint produce and then getting it slabbed themselves to sell on marketing as a collectable offering over their normal commemorative coin does that not change it from a investment to a collectable commemorative coin? This then also confuses me to where commemorative coins sit.   I do of course understand: 2.1 Definition of investment gold Investment gold is either: (a) gold of a purity not less than 995 thousandths that is in the form of a bar, or a wafer, of a weight accepted by the bullion markets (b) a gold coin minted after 1800 that is: of a purity of not less than 900 thousandths or has been, legal tender in its country of origin of a description of coin that is normally sold at a price that does not exceed 180 per cent of the open market value of the gold contained in the coin     I am just failing to understand why there are mentions of VAT for gold of investment definition that could hold VAT costs for being a collectors item or of numismatic interest. What items would these be other than holding a value over that 180x mark?

Wow

$28.50....wow..anyone see $30 by the end of next week?...had to re-evaluate my treasure chest of goodies at $25.000

I have tried to borrow in Canada using the same idea as you. Even after it was announced as a Tier One asset by the banking system. They smiled and said we don't want gold.   They also advised me to sell all metals for stocks, "let the Pro's" invest your money....