Three graces coin

[Stu]

17 minutes ago, terakris said:

I slab pretty much all my coins. To me, it means if i want to look at them I dont have to worry about damaging them or anything. Plus, makes it easy to store and catalogue as they are all in NGC slab holders which are easy to store in things like safety deposit boxes and such like - the boxes and coa's etc just get sealed up and shoved in the loft or something out the way as I'd only need those if I was selling.

How many slabs can you for in your safety deposit box mate? Have wondered this before but have been too lazy to work it.😄 My belief is it wouldn’t be much for the standard box. Interest to hear. 

[Stu]

Just now, Stu said:

How many slabs can you for in your safety deposit box mate? Have wondered this before but have been too lazy to work it out.😄 My belief is it wouldn’t be much for the standard box. Interested to hear. 

 

[creative]

Just in case any of the guys who chose to have their coins graded through Chris and Coins of the Realm are wondering about their status, I enquired and they’re at the ‘Scheduled of Grading’ stage. Likely a while until we know those sweet, sweet grades.

Edited March 31, 2021 by creative

[Rll1288]

2 minutes ago, creative said:

Just in case any of the guys who chose to have their coins graded through Chris and Coins of the Realm are wondering about their status, I enquired and they’re at the ‘Scheduled of Grading’ stage. Likely a while until we know those sweet, sweet grades.

So none have been done as yet and showing on the NGC site?

[creative]

47 minutes ago, Rll1288 said:

So none have been done as yet and showing on the NGC site?

I didn’t ask further than that, but I’d guess none are yet.

[terakris]

4 hours ago, Stu said:

How many slabs can you for in your safety deposit box mate? Have wondered this before but have been too lazy to work it.😄 My belief is it wouldn’t be much for the standard box. Interest to hear. 

3 fit in easily with room for extra bits and bobs. I also have the non NGC generic 10 slab holder boxes in there.

[Lr103]

Here are some price levels from APMEX. This is the first I’ve seen of the 2 kilo silver. The 2oz silver is already sold. 
 

[Allgoldcoins]

5 hours ago, Lr103 said:

Here are some price levels from APMEX. This is the first I’ve seen of the 2 kilo silver. The 2oz silver is already sold. 
 

Seem a little expensive to me, I would sell my 5 oz silver for $6000 - they are not giving the coins away that is for sure.

2 kilo isn't a coin its basically a brick, there has to be a limit to what is a coin somewhere? 

[AndrewSL76]

Is anyone bidding on the EBay lot of the 10, 5 and 2oz Silver Proofs? Currently at £20k with an hour or so to go...

[goldhunter]

Received  an email today from Sovereign Rarities about their new fixed price listings.

One was for a 2oz silver proof 3 Graces with a first day of issue label.

Asking price was £4800.

When I looked for it on their website it had already sold.

I believe Sovereign Rarities are an arm of the Royal Mint. This would explain how 50+ two ounce silver Graces where graded so fast by NGC.

They must have been retained by the Royal Mint and excluded from the website release last month.

 

 

[Paul]

10 minutes ago, goldhunter said:

Received  an email today from Sovereign Rarities about their new fixed price listings.

One was for a 2oz silver proof 3 Graces with a first day of issue label.

Asking price was £4800.

When I looked for it on their website it had already sold.

I believe Sovereign Rarities are an arm of the Royal Mint. This would explain how 50+ two ounce silver Graces where graded so fast by NGC.

They must have been retained by the Royal Mint and excluded from the website release last month.

https://www.royalmint.com/aboutus/press-centre/the-five-sovereign-piece-2017/

" The Royal Mint invests in Sovereign Rarities

06 Jun 2017

The Royal Mint and Sovereign Rarities are pleased to announce that The Royal Mint has made an equity investment in Sovereign Rarities Limited.  The decision by The Royal Mint to invest is part of the business’s 5 year plan to grow in the collector services market.

Sovereign Rarities is a London based numismatic dealership, comprised of a team of numismatic specialists, collectively with over one hundred years of experience. Sovereign Rarities is a proud member of the British Numismatic Trade Association (BNTA) and also works in conjunction with museums and other academic institutions and societies to promote the study of numismatics.

The Royal Mint has an unbroken history of minting British coinage dating back over 1,000 years. Anne Jessopp, Director of Consumer Coin at The Royal Mint confirms “The collaboration with Sovereign Rarities Limited supports the strategic direction in which The Royal Mint is keen to progress.  Both our businesses will be working to accelerate opportunities within this specialist area”. 

Ian Goldbart, Managing Director of Sovereign Rarities commented, “I am delighted to welcome The Royal Mint as a shareholder. It makes perfect sense for us to strengthen the tie with The Royal Mint, especially as a substantial proportion of the coins we deal with were in fact produced over the last 1,000 years by The Royal Mint”

[MikeG1978]

Wow if these sell the price is sort of set 

[TringSilver]

This is interesting from RM and SR. 

There is a one per basket limit so I couldn't do the old stock check ala on the RM site.

[goldhunter]

Happy Easter!!!!

My 2oz silver proof 3G is in transit from NGC and has achieved a PF 70

[TringSilver]

71 first day of issue in PF70, a few missed it as well;

 

 

Edited April 2, 2021 by TringSilver

[Simmoleon]

Surely the census is wrong - somebody got a PrAg for their 2oz gold?

[evende]

15 minutes ago, TringSilver said:

71 first day of issue in PF70, a few missed it as well;

 

 

How do you qualify for first day of issue? Are those the ones straight from the Mint?

[TringSilver]

15 minutes ago, evende said:

How do you qualify for first day of issue? Are those the ones straight from the Mint?

Yes I'm assuming this is the batch from Sovereign Rarities. Looks like they might have sent 110~ to try and get 100 x PF70's

[Numis65]

4 hours ago, Paul said:

https://www.royalmint.com/aboutus/press-centre/the-five-sovereign-piece-2017/

" The Royal Mint invests in Sovereign Rarities

06 Jun 2017

The Royal Mint and Sovereign Rarities are pleased to announce that The Royal Mint has made an equity investment in Sovereign Rarities Limited.  The decision by The Royal Mint to invest is part of the business’s 5 year plan to grow in the collector services market.

Sovereign Rarities is a London based numismatic dealership, comprised of a team of numismatic specialists, collectively with over one hundred years of experience. Sovereign Rarities is a proud member of the British Numismatic Trade Association (BNTA) and also works in conjunction with museums and other academic institutions and societies to promote the study of numismatics.

The Royal Mint has an unbroken history of minting British coinage dating back over 1,000 years. Anne Jessopp, Director of Consumer Coin at The Royal Mint confirms “The collaboration with Sovereign Rarities Limited supports the strategic direction in which The Royal Mint is keen to progress.  Both our businesses will be working to accelerate opportunities within this specialist area”. 

Ian Goldbart, Managing Director of Sovereign Rarities commented, “I am delighted to welcome The Royal Mint as a shareholder. It makes perfect sense for us to strengthen the tie with The Royal Mint, especially as a substantial proportion of the coins we deal with were in fact produced over the last 1,000 years by The Royal Mint”

Interesting tie-up . I suppose that it gives RM a channel to source old coins which seems a developing part of it business and to sell new ones at prices that it might not feel able to do publicly direct.

[Paul]

10 minutes ago, Numis65 said:

Interesting tie-up . I suppose that it gives RM a channel to source old coins which seems a developing part of it business and to sell new ones at prices that it might not feel able to do publicly direct.

...............or couldn't possibly be used for nefarious / market rigging / extra profit purposes £££ heaven forbid 

Already expensive issue price items, access to divert/allocate stock, access to speedy/faster 1st in queue grading in bulk, auction route selling under guise of another business 

hhmmmmmmmmmmmmm - as if printing your own money wasn't greedy enough lol ! 

rant over 

[Numis65]

30 minutes ago, Numis65 said:

Interesting tie-up . I suppose that it gives RM a channel to source old coins which seems a developing part of it business and to sell new ones at prices that it might not feel able to do publicly direct.

For anyone who is interested(!) apparently RM holds around 23% of Sovereign Rarities , which itself made £1m of profit last year. Likewise , for those so inclined(!) the front end of RM accounts for last year make quite interesting reading .

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/06964873/filing-history

[Paul]

39 minutes ago, Numis65 said:

For anyone who is interested(!) apparently RM holds around 23% of Sovereign Rarities , which itself made £1m of profit last year. Likewise , for those so inclined(!) the front end of RM accounts for last year make quite interesting reading .

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/06964873/filing-history

cant beat reading & analysing a balance sheet on a bank holiday weekend  

you can tell the pubs are shut    

Thanks for posting 

[Paul]

When you look back over the last year, the 2oz gold King George III  release

marketed as private release

you see things in a different light now you know RM have got a "finger & thumb in the pie to" 

NGC access for bulk grading 

no doubt easy credit terms to pay for product 

full end to end access of supply/sales/grading distribution chain 

inherent gold content compared to end RRP sale price 

= nice little earner  ££££

{bar the end buyer}

think ill just think to stacking krugs rather than guessing market trends for best profit.  only one or two winners by the looks of thingsd  

[Stu]

56 minutes ago, Paul said:

When you look back over the last year, the 2oz gold King George III  release

marketed as private release

you see things in a different light now you know RM have got a "finger & thumb in the pie to" 

NGC access for bulk grading 

no doubt easy credit terms to pay for product 

full end to end access of supply/sales/grading distribution chain 

inherent gold content compared to end RRP sale price 

= nice little earner  ££££

{bar the end buyer}

think ill just think to stacking krugs rather than guessing market trends for best profit.  only one or two winners by the looks of thingsd  

The RM should be totally impartial to grading and third party companies in my opinion. I think they should be banned from affiliating with anyone but source companies. Supposedly a civil entity? 

Additionally and more importantly , I think they should have a system for collector customers.not sure on how it could be administered, but only sell/ or try to collector base only. Perhaps sell with a unique code and bar anyone who resells within 5  years. ,that should deter most flippers I would think?  

[creative]

I got my grade and sadly I’m one of the few that got a PF69 Ultra Cameo. Still at least that makes my decision of whether or not to sell it!