augur

On 09/09/2019 at 16:36, sg86 said:

[this one] I cannot decide on, maybe just 4 over lower 4?

It seems more that a different size/font was used and then corrected. 4 over 4?

Little pickup for 10% below spot:

i don’t believe we have featured 20 Pesetas on here yet. 

43 minutes ago, MaxeBaumann said:

Just horrible. Who sends only such coins.
Max

Da hat das Übersetzungsprogramm wohl versagt: Bevor hier die ersten Unkenrufe kommen: ich hatte bewusst nach der am schlimmsten mit „Milchflecken“ befallenen   Münze gefragt. Ich möchte anhand dieser meine Theorie über die Entstehung dieser „Milchflecken“ prüfen (und vermutlich scheitern) und welch zweckdienlicheres Exemplar könnte man dafür verlangen...?

Diese weißen Flecken sind ein massives Problem bei modernen Silbermünzen und ich hoffe, dass keines Deiner wunderschönen Exemplare je diesen derzeit irreparablen Defekt entwickelt. 

49 minutes ago, Kookaburracollector said:

Just completed a date run of these 20 Francs coins...but the collection is not complete...

am missing an 1896 ‘Torch’ engravers mark.

Already aware of one at Gadoury

Go for it 😉 

Lovely pickup! The 1887 probably depends on the graders’ mood: either MS or Details but if it isn’t deep rather MS

18 hours ago, Kookaburracollector said:

Nice to compare the two 1879’s now I have both.

Below is the standard Anchor...a bit like a round blob on the end if you ask me!

The one acquired today has two distinct bars on the end...

I have no idea if one is rarer than the other...if you do..please let me know.

Interesting question: neither NGC nor PCGS make a distinction in the census; I suppose Gadoury does not make this distinction either.

In theory no 1879 coin should bear the mark of Albert Désiré Barre (died December 1878) but the one you show below of his brother Jean Auguste Barre. They clearly used the dies they prepared already in 1878 but with the low mintage of the 1879 vintage they probably didn’t make many with the new mark; at least that is what I would conclude from your difficulty to obtain one. 

27 minutes ago, Kookaburracollector said:

Ummm..I could be wrong (most probable answer), but I thought the 20 Perpera from Montenegro was only minted in 1910, and there is no 1912.?.....I hear Ibruprofen helps fight Alzheimer’s @augur... shall I send you some ?

PS Don’t forget you owe me £20,000!😃💰

You are right, it is 1912 – it is clearly getting worse.

Now where did I leave those 20 grand? 😂 

My Alzheimer’s must be getting worse: i cannot recollect when i said all that 🤔 

Those Skanderbegu Frangas are rare and dear, especially the 1926 is hard to track down. Congratulations @Kookaburracollector on securing this fine example!

Still waiting for the day that someone posts a 1912 20 Perpera on this thread. 

1 hour ago, sg86 said:

I think it's an E over a much higher E, because I've seen the error on a different date before and you can see the top of the E but the rest looks exactly the same

Yes, clearly visible on the picture; half an E in but much higher

On 06/09/2019 at 15:06, sg86 said:

Did the other strange letters (I believe R and G) have a similar cause?

5 hours ago, sg86 said:

Best coin, A or B?

B

Not by a great margin but less wear and more detail.

How many coins with this extended horizontal bar in the letters have you identified by now, half a dozen?

@goldmember44 the series is definitely a sleeper and will eventually take off.

The current design has certainly evolved from the most recent designs but is not right up there for my liking but would most likely be next in line. I am very curious about the 2020 design, though

25 minutes ago, goldmember44 said:

I'm curious... what do you think of the 2019 design? It seems to be quite popular, and I also like it a lot. None of the other very recent Britannia proofs have convinced me so far, but the 2019 stands out. Time will tell in later years if it will become one of the iconic designs, or just a forgotten one. I think the addition of the lion in the design is a plus.

The nice thing about the Britannia series is that there are designs to suit many different tastes. In terms of plasticity of the allegory I favour the 2014 and 1987 original design. In regards to modern reductive depiction the 2001 and 2003 stand out to me and @gazer. I think there is little not to be liked and even the greatest hater of the 2017 design @RegalStacker has come to terms with her. 

@shawy2510 is your football spherical or flat, since there were two versions?