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5 hours ago, mr-dead said:

1/4 proof, 1/2 proof & full proof 2017 pistrucci sovs to go with my Piedfort, just need the £5 sov to complete the set now

There is a large set on eBay containing all coins (also the double sovereign). Did you get yours individually?

You are having some of the most amazing gold proofs from this year in your collection! ?

1 minute ago, Numistacker said:

I was going to make a video on errors at some stage so I needed so get some. This one is quite interesting. I bought 10 of the 100 Cedis Leopard too.

 

@Lea79 has a rockhopper or two she could borrow you, I believe. 

1 hour ago, Numistacker said:

Bought 3 Britannia Rules the Waves coins.

Are you nowadays into non gov mint errors? ?

6 minutes ago, metalslug said:

The frosting on St. George and the horse is as bad as on my unicorn.

Are you putting the coins up for sale?

Like the Scottsdale Mint Logo

6 minutes ago, Vern said:

It's also in the video (comparing the 5 BU with the large Proof) You uploaded from Numi in the other thread at the 9.55 min mark you uploaded tuesday 11th July. I've seen it much worse than this in the same area on these coins. I'll tell you what it's not looking good for the Royal Mint at this rate. Such a shame for many but lucky for those with perfect examples. . http://thesilverforum.com/topic/9466-new-2017-quintuple-sovereign/?page=2

Have a look at 10:29 onwards on the video - there the frosting starts to look intact again. It seems that if the frosting is thinner (e.g. BU or queens beasts silver proof) it can look as if it was missing depending on the angle of light.

But I agree with probably many, that QC leaves much to be desired but gold of any purity seems more favourable than 9999 silver. 

1 hour ago, Vern said:

I have circled what I think may be missing frosting below.

Could such a small thing make a difference if sent for grading? 

It may look like some missing frosting but on the other picture (in the flip) or the video, there is no sign of it. Seems to be a shadow. 

Using a black line to mark something on golf is always hard to see. Better use read. 

I had a look at some of the recent PF 70 ultra cameo coins from the Royal Mint on eBay. The pictures often show faint frosting or even missing bits. NGC states that PF 70 means "no post-production imperfections at 5x magnification". I guess with bulk submission that assume that any damaged frosting is from the production. If you were to hand in such a coin they might think you caused the damage...

5 minutes ago, Silverstackeruk said:

Wow 1oz gold in a silver frame. And smooth transition of the design across the coin

26 minutes ago, kiskelo said:

Is that milk spots on the right coin? Can see now the smaller die on the obverse that @Gav was speaking of. Still wondering if the 100 Cedis obverse was designated for a gold coin

24 minutes ago, shortstack68 said:

Wear of the die possibly at certain points, there was another with a similar problem at the horses mouth, the frosted part was coming away, but at only a limited mintage however you look at it, it's poor

Definitely wear on those. My first one with lint marks and frost bits missing had a deep frost. Second one had worn frost on lips, chain and shield. On this one the problem areas are only faint.

36 minutes ago, shortstack68 said:

If you look through the complete RM video the coins are sandblasted and not lasered

But if you look at my coin the frosting runs in parallel lines. Sandblasting/glasbeading creates an irregular pattern. 

I stand corrected: the parallel lines must be from engraving with too weak sandblasting to cover it up. 

33 minutes ago, shortstack68 said:

Just to add on the hair and lint theory being struck into the coin, pull a hair out of your head and see how straight it comes out, i wouldn't expect either to be perfectly straight, there would be some curvature

Didn't take pictures as I didn't have the setup as @Mariner1961 recommended me. But the lint fibres were hooked curvy bits and the hair had a curvature, too. Next time i will document them. 

25 minutes ago, shortstack68 said:

Prices come from the material used and type of strike, not from the environment they are struck in.

Material is the same as Bullion. Paperwork and box do cost obviously, as do hand polishing and hand feeding.

as for the "sandblasting" it looks rather like it's done by laser, at least judging from my silver unicorn. Maybe that's why it's so faint?

23 minutes ago, shortstack68 said:

Skipping to around 3:30 will let you see how they are struck, no tongs were used in the making of this video

I can see now where the lint impressions of my coin came from. And as nobody wears hazmat suits and hair caps at the press there will always be particles in the air. I'm no physicist but the compressed air will create a draft pulling dust and hair from the environment. I think you can only expect that much; otherwise prices would be even higher if these coins were minted in a clean room...

Could that be a hair imprinted? Scratch that straight across frosted relief and polished surface would be hard to produce otherwise...

17 minutes ago, shortstack68 said:

Its a BU, if you ever seen a coin being struck, to get a hair anywhere near would mean someone would have had to stick their head inside the press and after every coin is removed press is blown with compressed air

I haven't seen BU or proof production at the Royal Mint. Only how a 999.9 gold coin with protruding inscription is grabbed with metal prongs

having had lint impressions on my first queens beast silver proof, a similar "hairline" on my queens beast gold proof I doubt that Royal Mint operates in an environment like a computer chip manufacturer. 

25 minutes ago, shortstack68 said:

There is no QC

The job description must be: put a sticker on the box 

1 hour ago, Vern said:

I have had a good look with the loupe and I am 99% certain it's not a scratch - I've seen plenty of scratches on gold coins before. So this probably is an error of some type. Someone like @Numistacker may have seen this before and offer his opinion if I'm lucky 

Could that be a hair imprinted? Scratch that straight across frosted relief and polished surface would be hard to produce otherwise...