Royal Mint - Great Engravers 2021 - Gothic Crown information

[westminstrel]

Just now, lubi29 said:

Suit me well , got day off😁

It could be Monday Dec 6 for you Europe and UK folks. 🙂

[magpie79]

See how this one goes 

obviously a huge fan of the original gothic 

But personally I didn’t like the design seen on the Alderney release 

I didn’t think the design worked on new silver. Much prefer the antique finish am use to seeing the design on 

will I still try and get one 

of course 

 

 

Edited November 26, 2021 by magpie79

[NewCoins]

10 minutes ago, magpie79 said:

See how this one goes 

obviously a huge fan of the original gothic 

But personally I didn’t like the design seen on the Alderney release 

I didn’t think the design worked on new silver. Much prefer the antique finish am use to seeing the design on 

will I still try and get one 

of course 

 

 

I know exactly what you mean. The silver will age well!

[Stu]

46 minutes ago, ArgentSmith said:

I would guess the portrait will be more popular than the shield IMO

Are you intending buying  on the secondary market if you don’t get one on initial release from mint?

[ArgentSmith]

Just now, Stu said:

Are you intending buying  on the secondary market if you don’t get one on initial release from mint?

Why do you ask?

[Stu]

7 minutes ago, ArgentSmith said:

Why do you ask?

You were asking about potential prices once the dust had settled. 

[Mario007]

so are the first two coins of this series been realised yet? as i can't find them from the web site

is there a list of the coins of this series ?

 

Edited November 26, 2021 by Mario007

[apachebleu]

9 hours ago, ArgentSmith said:

I would guess the portrait will be more popular than the shield IMO

 Really? I'm new to this game but to me the shield seems like the special part of this...to each their own though and to be fair I think both coins will be amazing. Just have to hope for luck on the day

[NewCoins]

8 minutes ago, apachebleu said:

 Really? I'm new to this game but to me the shield seems like the special part of this...to each their own though and to be fair I think both coins will be amazing. Just have to hope for luck on the day

I am on the fence personally. I have a young head soveriegn specifically for the portrait.

But I do like the shield. I will settle for them both 😀

[GoldDiggerDave]

I'm going to get one of each and some super glue and make a Piedfort Gothic!

[GoldDiggerDave]

6 hours ago, Mario007 said:

so are the first two coins of this series been realised yet? as i can't find them from the web site

is there a list of the coins of this series ?

 

I love this forum.......The gift that keeps on giving! 

[CollectorNo1]

10 minutes ago, NewCoins said:

I am on the fence personally. I have a young head soveriegn specifically for the portrait.

But I do like the shield. I will settle for them both 😀

Shields for me all the way..just personal preference 🙂

[westminstrel]

My source has dropped a hint (like a wink wink) that the first coin is the “arms”.

[GoldDiggerDave]

I’ve ordered the Alderney Island Gothic set, coming today! Woo

[NewCoins]

Does anyone have any experience of buying original gothic crowns ? I am not looking for a top end one or anywhere near (£££). Does anyone have any approximate price ranges at all levels? It seems there have been some previously attached to jewellery for example that have been sold in the past, that have sold in the region of £400 (VF).

If anyone has any hints of experience I would love to hear them. 

Below is an example that sold a few years ago. Seems circulated to me? Were they all proof ? I have read conflicting things.

 

Edited November 27, 2021 by NewCoins

[Simmoleon]

Graded examples have premiums PF55-58 normally £3-5k but that could change after the next release. Any above PF60 normally start at £7k+ with the best examples being ridiculous money 

Any ungraded but would likely get a grade also hold a premium which can be big money again if a nice example 

You can occasionally see them in the hundreds but not as often nowadays and as you said they are normally damaged in some way but still nice coins if you aren’t worried about it being graded and slabbed 

[GoldDiggerDave]

26 minutes ago, NewCoins said:

Does anyone have any experience of buying original gothic crowns ? I am not looking for a top end one or anywhere near (£££). Does anyone have any approximate price ranges at all levels? It seems there have been some previously attached to jewellery for example that have been sold in the past, that have sold in the region of £400 (VF).

If anyone has any hints of experience I would love to hear them. 

Below is an example that sold a few years ago. Seems circulated to me? Were they all proof ? I have read conflicting things.

 

£400? Still a bargain 

Edited November 27, 2021 by GoldDiggerDave

[NewCoins]

11 minutes ago, Simmoleon said:

Graded examples have premiums PF55-58 normally £3-5k but that could change after the next release. Any above PF60 normally start at £7k+ with the best examples being ridiculous money 

Any ungraded but would likely get a grade also hold a premium which can be big money again if a nice example 

You can occasionally see them in the hundreds but not as often nowadays and as you said they are normally damaged in some way but still nice coins if you aren’t worried about it being graded and slabbed 

Thank you. To be honest I will happily have a cheaper one. I will take a look around. If I am happy to pay 500+ for a 5oz new one, I struggle to convince myself why I wouldn't be willing to pay 1k ish for a less than perfect example of the original. I think I have convinced myself 

2 minutes ago, GoldDiggerDave said:

£400? Still a bargain 

I think so. That was 4 years ago mind. 

[AndrewSL76]

23 hours ago, magpie79 said:

See how this one goes 

obviously a huge fan of the original gothic 

But personally I didn’t like the design seen on the Alderney release 

I didn’t think the design worked on new silver. Much prefer the antique finish am use to seeing the design on 

will I still try and get one 

of course 

 

 

This is how I feel. I bought the Alderney version and shared pictures of the original against the Alderney release. Repeated below.

This is the first in the GE series where the original coin is actually available to people who don’t have £100k plus to spend on coins. A good example can be found for £6-25k. I realise this still represents a lot of money but from an investment perspective (and this is not financial advice) it makes perfect sense; at least to me!

[Bruce06]

2 hours ago, NewCoins said:

Does anyone have any experience of buying original gothic crowns ? I am not looking for a top end one or anywhere near (£££). Does anyone have any approximate price ranges at all levels? It seems there have been some previously attached to jewellery for example that have been sold in the past, that have sold in the region of £400 (VF).

If anyone has any hints of experience I would love to hear them. 

Below is an example that sold a few years ago. Seems circulated to me? Were they all proof ? I have read conflicting things.

 

If it's £400 nowadays, really need to check carefully about its authentication.

[magpie79]

Just got a email from rm 

says two coins to be released?

[AndrewSL76]

2 minutes ago, magpie79 said:

Just got a email from rm 

says two coins to be released?

Yes - this is something that I think has been discussed earlier in this thread. The issues will mirror what Alderney have done. The Gothic Crown is split with the original Queen Vic obverse and Shield reverse being released as two coins with the two obverses being the Jody Clark fifth portrait.

[AndrewSL76]

Here are the Alderney coins:

[magpie79]

18 minutes ago, AndrewSL76 said:

Yes - this is something that I think has been discussed earlier in this thread. The issues will mirror what Alderney have done. The Gothic Crown is split with the original Queen Vic obverse and Shield reverse being released as two coins with the two obverses being the Jody Clark fifth portrait.

I thought that might be the answer 

Great pictures btw 

am still not convinced on the new silver 

the design just looks to busy for me 

but i will be there with you all on release day 

 

[AR03]

I received the email too... Probably it will be released this Monday!?!?

Any idea on the mintage? Gazette information?