Royal Mint - Great Engravers 2021 - Gothic Crown information

[GoldStatue]

Just now, Bruce06 said:

I hear the same from dealer, reverse side for 1 coin, then obverse side for another, so that will be split into 2 releases.

I'd imagine that it is going to be unique to this coin as the current monarchs effigy always has to be on it.

With the 1847 crown Queen Victoria's noggin is an integral part of the design so they didn't have too many options other than to make it a two coin release.

[NewCoins]

15 minutes ago, GoldStatue said:

Imagine if they did something crazy like create different mintages for the obverse and reverse 😀

 

Don't even think that!

[sovereignsteve]

4 hours ago, AndrewSL76 said:

Has everyone been saving their pennies!?

what? with the proof sovereign coming up, no chance🤪

[sovereignsteve]

4 hours ago, BackyardBullion said:

I hope they give options for those lucky enough to get the first coin to get the second

it would make sense, the mint do have a recent history of signing people up to a series

[Jeffers46]

They have been tinkering with The Great Engravers page on the RM site recently- maybe the whole site?

https://www.royalmint.com/the-great-engravers

[TringSilver]

34 minutes ago, Jeffers46 said:

They have been tinkering with The Great Engravers page on the RM site recently- maybe the whole site?

https://www.royalmint.com/the-great-engravers

Yes while site seems to have changed! Still 404 on the further link to shop Great Engravers though 

[AppleZippoandMetronome]

On 03/11/2021 at 13:33, TeaTime said:

Making money does seem to be the narrative...

I bought a copy coin a few years ago when i realised that the original was beyond my limit for spending on a single coin. It cost me less than a fiver - i have no idea what dies were used but it seemed pretty accurate to the original.

It would seem that the RM are missing a trick if the biggest motivation to purchasing these coins is to re-sell them at a profit. Maybe they should hold back a few and list them on Ebay 😁

I think its important to note it didn't start this way with the original Una coin. It wasn't an instant sell out. I hummed and hawed over buying it for more than 24 hours before pulling the trigger and it was available for a while after I ordered one. Had the RM been aware of what it would become I'm sure they would have increased the mintage and price much as they did with the 3 Graces. I'd be surprised if both aren't pushed a little higher still for the next release and I'm sure the next being a two coin release plays into their decision to go with the Gothic Crown. With the exposure the original Una has given the RM and how that has almost certainly driven sales for other coins - especially in the 2oz proof format - I suspect they've done just fine out of it.

[ArgentSmith]

Assuming both designs have the same mintages, any thoughts on which one will command higher premium once the dust has settled? I would guess the portrait 🤷‍♂️

[SilverJacks]

@ArgentSmith If one of these coins has another one of RMs surprise releases, which I doubt but you never know, then less flippers will get to it and will in turn command higher premium.

[Ashes]

It's happening. Why soon after the 2022 Sovereign, my bank account can't take it 😅

[GoldDiggerDave]

14 minutes ago, Deathace said:

It's happening. Why soon after the 2022 Sovereign, my bank account can't take it 😅

Will shake a few out of the tree I think.  I've been keeping some powered dry for this one.

[apachebleu]

 At least if you have to register for interest the chances are at least it won't be this Monday so that's something.

 Between this and the soverigns my bank account is suffering!!

 

 What's the bets that it will be another, now usual, sign up for the series?

[FlorinCollector]

Here we go again 🤒🤒🤒

[westminstrel]

3 hours ago, FlorinCollector said:

Here we go again 🤒🤒🤒

I heard that in the Dowager Countess’ voice inside my head. 😀

[NewCoins]

Found some original die images, if anyone still needs their appetite wetting.

 

[westminstrel]

I just got confirmation from a source that these are to be released on December 7.

Seems like an odd day but it’s getting close. 🥵

Edited November 26, 2021 by westminstrel

[jultorsk]

5 hours ago, westminstrel said:

I just got confirmation from a source that these are to be released on December 7.

Seems like an odd day but it’s getting close. 🥵

That's Aussie time mate. 😉 They'll be out on the 6th Dec in Old Blighty.

[westminstrel]

26 minutes ago, jultorsk said:

That's Aussie time mate. 😉 They'll be out on the 6th Dec in Old Blighty.

Ahaha oh that makes sense. 😎

8 hours ago, NewCoins said:

Found some original die images, if anyone still needs their appetite wetting.

 

Good grief that is gorgeous! 😍

[Stu]

7 hours ago, westminstrel said:

I just got confirmation from a source that these are to be released on December 7.

Seems like an odd day but it’s getting close. 🥵

I kind of suspected this as release date. Too late to market for this Monday. Any later than the 6th Dec and they are pushing it for troubles with dispatch/ holiday period etc. That said, RM not adverse to mega customer relations issues.

I just hope my remortgage comes through in time. 

Edited November 26, 2021 by Stu
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[Stu]

On 06/11/2021 at 22:15, ArgentSmith said:

Assuming both designs have the same mintages, any thoughts on which one will command higher premium once the dust has settled? I would guess the portrait 🤷‍♂️

Why do you ask?

If you are fortunate enough to bag any release in this series, you will be doing very well I would suggest.  Demand for these will be huge. 

Edited November 26, 2021 by Stu

[GoldDiggerDave]

9 hours ago, NewCoins said:

Found some original die images, if anyone still needs their appetite wetting.

 

We just don't get this quality anymore,  everything is a digital image now and the dies are just laser cut and mass produced. That's why the have a low relief   the new digital  type George and Dragon reverse looks badly photo shopped, you can see what I'm getting at when you closely look at the sword passing over the horses back. 

Love these dies and would love the Royal Mint to re use JMB original shield for a run of sovereigns.  

[AuricGoldfinger]

Hmmm i want.

[westminstrel]

48 minutes ago, GoldDiggerDave said:

We just don't get this quality anymore,  everything is a digital image now and the dies are just laser cut and mass produced. That's why the have a low relief   the new digital  type George and Dragon reverse looks badly photo shopped, you can see what I'm getting at when you closely look at the sword passing over the horses back. 

Love these dies and would love the Royal Mint to re use JMB original shield for a run of sovereigns.  

The designs are also less intricate. I mentioned this about the 2022 Sovereign. It is a nice design yes, but doesn’t hold a candle to the intricate shield and coat of arms designs on the 19th century coins and medals. 

[ArgentSmith]

3 hours ago, Stu said:

Why do you ask?

If you are fortunate enough to bag any release in this series, you will be doing very well I would suggest.  Demand for these will be huge. 

I would guess the portrait will be more popular than the shield IMO

[lubi29]

11 hours ago, westminstrel said:

I just got confirmation from a source that these are to be released on December 7.

Seems like an odd day but it’s getting close. 🥵

Suit me well , got day off😁