The Memorial Sovereign 2022 with King Charles

[LawrenceChard]

3 minutes ago, Piperscoins said:

We have all done that in our said fields

Fields?

It's just as well we aren't in the fresh produce business!

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[Solachesis]

24 minutes ago, LawrenceChard said:

 

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So...You are confirming you will have some to sell and it isn't just a Royal mint direct release? 😎

[sovereignsteve]

1 hour ago, Solachesis said:

Does anyone have any tips for queueing?

If anyone has a fool-proof method for getting to the front of the queue, I very much doubt they would post it on here🙄

[LawrenceChard]

32 minutes ago, Solachesis said:

So...You are confirming you will have some to sell and it isn't just a Royal mint direct release? 😎

Anything I know which is not in the public domain is subject to embargo!

Proof sovereign ranges have never previously been an RM direct only release, so there would be no reason to expect anything different this time.

Does the RM say they can only be bought direct?

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[Solachesis]

28 minutes ago, LawrenceChard said:

Anything I know which is not in the public domain is subject to embargo!

Proof sovereign ranges have never previously been an RM direct only release, so there would be no reason to expect anything different this time.

Does the RM say they can only be bought direct?

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No they don't, that's true, but if there is 3000 bullion half sovereigns supposedly, which will easily get snapped up from their website within minutes, at a higher price than a reseller, then I'd assume they wouldn't bother sending such small portions out to places such as Chards/Atkinson's as the mintage numbers are low and it's a limited time, right? 

I could be wrong, but if I knew people would buy my small amount of boxes of chocolates directly from me within 30 minutes of release, I wouldn't bother sending them out to resellers.

Edit: Ignore me I cant read

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Edited November 11, 2022 by Solachesis
I'm stooopid

[Solachesis]

13 minutes ago, sovereignsteve said:

If anyone has a fool-proof method for getting to the front of the queue, I very much doubt they would post it on here🙄

I just wanted to know if refreshing the page put you back 20,000 places, I'm sure such information wouldn't cause the person giving it to miss out on the very last sovereign, I imagine people have their own methods such as keeping the royal mint website open overnight, opening different pages in other tabs, or trying the queue on multiple different devices, none of which I would be bothered to do.

[LawrenceChard]

3 minutes ago, Solachesis said:

No they don't, that's true, but if there is 3000 bullion half sovereigns supposedly, which will easily get snapped up from their website within minutes, at a higher price than a reseller, then I'd assume they wouldn't bother sending such small portions out to places such as Chards/Atkinson's as the mintage numbers are low and it's a limited time, right? 

I could be wrong, but if I knew people would buy my small amount of boxes of chocolates directly from me within 30 minutes of release, I wouldn't bother sending them out to resellers 😁

Sure, but if you could choose how many boxes to create / source, wouldn't you want to maximise your profits by having a bite of two cherry flavoured ones?

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[westminstrel]

15 minutes ago, Solachesis said:

No they don't, that's true, but if there is 3000 bullion half sovereigns supposedly,

Where did you get this information about bullion Sovereigns from?

[sovereignsteve]

"Welcoming His Majesty The King onto its obverse and paying tribute to the remarkable reign of Her Late Majesty Queen Elizabeth II"

So in that case, is it reasonable to expect the reverse design to be an exact copy of the Platinum Jubilee edition?

In theory then, it shouldn't be the Charles version of the Royal Arms if there is such a thing.

Talk about milking it, and is it likely to adversely  impact on the current value of said 2022 Platinum version?

 

[Solachesis]

2 minutes ago, westminstrel said:

Where did you get this information about bullion Sovereigns from?

Out of my arse, because apparently I've misread the page out of excitement, assumed bullion was the numbers listed as it didn't say proof, yet had a BU section. My mistake, it was LEP

[westminstrel]

3 hours ago, harrygill111 said:

@westminstrel you're really sharp with this stuff, is this the right proclamation? 

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/4170151

Have you seen another potential proclamation that could be the 2023 issue?

 

No I haven’t seen any other Proclamation that could be for Sovereigns except this one.

I think I assumed this one was for the 2023 Sovereign, since we all expected it to be released at the end of this year; but the “memorial 2022” concept seems to have taken us all by surprise.

I expect they will do the standard St. George and the Dragon for the 2023 Coronation Sovereign, and even if they don’t, there will have to be another Proclamation for it… unless the 2023 Coronation Sovereign also happens to have yet another “Coat of Arms” reverse design, in which case this Proclamation will cover the specifications for it.

[MergingCultures]

4 hours ago, Solachesis said:

Pretty low mintages, doubt I'll be able to snag one, expecting a huge queue lol 

I managed to get a 2022 Proof using my phone while having a boozy lunch!! I didn't even notice the queue!!

[westminstrel]

17 minutes ago, sovereignsteve said:

"Welcoming His Majesty The King onto its obverse and paying tribute to the remarkable reign of Her Late Majesty Queen Elizabeth II"

So in that case, is it reasonable to expect the reverse design to be an exact copy of the Platinum Jubilee edition?

In theory then, it shouldn't be the Charles version of the Royal Arms if there is such a thing.

Talk about milking it, and is it likely to adversely  impact on the current value of said 2022 Platinum version?

 

I don’t think so. I think both Sovereigns will be quite desirable, and in fact the “pair” might be even more desirable as a sort of “bookend” since they are both dated 2022.

[harrygill111]

9 minutes ago, MergingCultures said:

I managed to get a 2022 Proof using my phone while having a boozy lunch!! I didn't even notice the queue!!

It was strange this time last year, I got my 3 coin set close to 10am

Edited November 11, 2022 by harrygill111

[MergingCultures]

12 minutes ago, harrygill111 said:

It was strange this time last year, I got my 3 coin set close to 10am

Tbf I think the booze helped me miss the queue!!

[dirt94]

If you only had the funds to purchase one of these products which would be the best? The Piedfort? It’s mintages went down to a relatively low level.

[Vern]

Low mintage on some but no Fabergé egg 😁

[xthomasx]

1 hour ago, dirt94 said:

If you only had the funds to purchase one of these products which would be the best? The Piedfort? It’s mintages went down to a relatively low level.

'The best' under which aspect? For most collectors, the full sov is the must-have. In terms of future value, I still think the full sov is the best, but the quintuple may be close.

I will try to catch a full and a half.

[asl]

Is the price known? 

[Paul]

1 minute ago, asl said:

Is the price known? 

Enough £££ so you'll feel like you've been fisted, without the lubrication 

[Paul]

Last years proof sovereign was £585, so expect it more than that given spot has increased  

[ant1882]

14 minutes ago, asl said:

Is the price known? 

https://www.bullionbypost.co.uk/royal-mint-proof-collections/proof-memorial-sovereign-2022/

[Paul]

posted on another thread here earlier - information is under embargo until Tuesday on release day, so you didnt read it here  mums the word 

[Petra]

If you want to say you have sovereigns from one year with two different monarchs, then these will no doubt pay for themselves and some, otherwise, just wait for the 2023 issues, which in themselves will hold a premium, but, should be available at a better price.🤔

[dirt94]

1 hour ago, xthomasx said:

'The best' under which aspect? For most collectors, the full sov is the must-have. In terms of future value, I still think the full sov is the best, but the quintuple may be close.

I will try to catch a full and a half.

Future value is what I meant by the best. I knew that the full sov was very collectible but I didn’t know if the Piedfort with a low mintage like that was very sought after or if Piedforts aren’t really collected.