Royal Mint - Great Engravers 2021 - Gothic Crown information

[GoldDiggerDave]

2 minutes ago, Paul said:

Only using credit card as RM interest free credit account is maxed out with sovereign 2022

Just cleared mine mate ready for the goth! 

[CollectorNo1]

8 minutes ago, AndrewSL76 said:

The Alderneys were £460 for the set. The Mint are releasing over two dates. I’m going to say the price for the 2oz will be c.£255 (as per 3G) for the coins individually so you’re right on the mark re £500 ish.

No disrespect to the Alderney mint but they are not in the same class as the RM..Although I've been told different!!!!

[CollectorNo1]

6 minutes ago, Paul said:

Only using credit card as RM interest free credit account is maxed out with sovereign 2022

Split?? Who knows it's a guessing game..Guess it's just for us to wait n see.... until the 6th December....

[Paul]

8 minutes ago, GoldDiggerDave said:

Just cleared mine mate ready for the goth! 

Will giggle some funds around to accommodate, instead of missing out. Paul might have to have another "gold for spot' forum  clear out in the new year to pay the RM  bills 

[GoldDiggerDave]

23 minutes ago, CollectorNo1 said:

No disrespect to the Alderney mint but they are not in the same class as the RM..Although I've been told different!!!!

What class do you mean?  Do they have better production,  quality control, finish, design? Always open to other peoples opinions so happy to hear you explain the levels of "class".  I made a fortune selling RM 3 graces but hold a EIC pattern 3 graces and the quality of that blows the RM away.  I've bought the Alderney Island set for fun and the finish is better than any RM silver proof I've had....   

Blinded by the RM buzz? Don't get me wrong I'll be chomping at the bit to buy them but won't hold any RM silver as it's a ticking time bomb. 

 

[GoldDiggerDave]

8 minutes ago, CollectorNo1 said:

Sorry I would like to comment..I think the Alderney mint is a fine mint..but everytime I make a comment...positive or negative I get warned...just can't say anything anymore in case I upset certain people...its a shame I can't express my views but it is the way it is on here....say something wrong and you get a warning.....🙄🙄🙄😷🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄😷

No mate I don't get up set, I'm happy to hear other people opinions,(its the only way to learn) It's just very easy to be blinded by a brand over  the actual quality.  For me the best silver proofs by far I've had in may hands are Perth mint, utterly pin sharp strikes and fields more reflective than a mirror.  (and miles cheaper than the RM) 

It's easy to over look smaller mints just because they don't have the kudos of the RM.  TBH The RM have been trading on image over quality for a long time.  but again that's just my opinion.  Nothing wrong with having open debate. 

Edited November 28, 2021 by GoldDiggerDave
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[AR03]

I think the royal mint has value because of its old reputation and the "royal family".... Not sure with the new heirs, it will hold its value in the future......I loved some of the Canadian designs, although never owned one.

 

[dikefalos]

If i had to make a choice between a Commonwealth or a Royal Mint Gothic Crown for the same price, of course i would take the original. But would i pay more for one raw RM coin, than for the Alderney PF70 set? No way, especially after i saw the quality of this set with my own eyes. And i really like the young portrait of Elizabeth by Jody Clark on the Alderney set also. 

[Wampum]

It is the wording on the Royal Mint email--"The Great Engravers Collection, which will continue with the first of two coins", being released very soon.

I would take that to mean that the first coin will be released, followed then by the second at a later date.

If the second (or vice versa ) has 300 less coins issued there will be a few people banjaxed who wanted the set.

 

 

[blackadder]

Im more looking forward to that Kermit the Frog coin lol 😂

 

[AndrewSL76]

Just now, Wampum said:

It is the wording on the Royal Mint email--"The Great Engravers Collection, which will continue with the first of two coins", being released very soon.

I would take that to mean that the first coin will be released, followed then by the second at a later date.

If the second (or vice versa ) has 300 less coins issued there will be a few people banjaxed who wanted the set.

 

 

The mintage figure will be consistent across the two releases.

[HerefordBullyun]

1 minute ago, blackadder said:

Im more looking forward to that Kermit the Frog coin lol 😂

 

Ive heard his fingers stink of pork!

[blackadder]

2 minutes ago, HerefordBullyun said:

Ive heard his fingers stink of pork!

Wonder if miss piggy will be a follow up lol

[AndrewSL76]

You guys do know there is not actually a Kermit coin being released by the Royal Mint, right? 

[James32]

1 minute ago, AndrewSL76 said:

You guys do know there is not actually a Kermit coin being released by the Royal Mint, right? 

Almost fell for it but you're trying to get them all for yourself 😁

[NewCoins]

10 hours ago, CollectorNo1 said:

That's anyone's guess..hoping under £500 for the 2oz silver but could be totally wrong.....

 

9 hours ago, CollectorNo1 said:

But if they release 2 coins could be looking at the £500 mark..Guess it's a wait n see....🤔🤔🤔🤔

Well, yes. But that's not happening on the 6th of December as the original question (there will only be 1 coin). "The 2oz silver.." implied at least to me you were referring to 1 coin.

[GoldDiggerDave]

7 hours ago, AndrewSL76 said:

You guys do know there is not actually a Kermit coin being released by the Royal Mint, right? 

Now you have really spoilt it.......These muppets on here though they were getting their own currency!!!!!!!😜😜

[GoldDiggerDave]

Dose anyone know how the sale of these coins will work with it being 1 of 2 coins? The obvious thing to do will be for the RM to offer this as a mini series on purchase but I'm not holding my breath, if they do they will not need to do a 2nd launch as everyone has snapped them all up by 9:03am on the first day and makes the whole idea of a second launch pointless they will just be fulfilling ordered rather than launching a new coin.

The problem here guys,  I can see the coin offered as a 2 coin series, but also offered as a single.........If they do this it will be a complete disaster 

Might get 50% of a mintage offered as a 2 coin series the other 50% as a single coin,  we know this would be a total cockup but does the RM? 

 

 

 

 

 

[NewCoins]

I can't see there being a good solution, unless they offer 100% of the mintage as a guaranteed 2nd coin. It feels wrong to essentially split one coin over two coins, and leave it open that people may only get one.

I don't think they will offer all as a guaranteed 2nd, maybe a relatively small percentage.

I think it's guaranteed to be a cockup in this respect, and might have an interesting dynamic on the secondary market.

[ArgentSmith]

Can’t see them being offered together. 

[jultorsk]

I'd have thought it's a done deal that they'll do the two Gothics as a "mini series". That would explain why they started "training" us customers with the opt-in concept with the 2022 Sovereign orders. 

Edited November 29, 2021 by jultorsk
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[NewCoins]

3 minutes ago, jultorsk said:

I'd have thought it's a done deal that they'll do the two Gothics as a "mini series". That would explain why they started "training" us customers with the opt-in concept with the 2022 Sovereign orders. 

I hope you are right. But if it is, makes releasing two coins separately a bit of a non event ? 

Edited November 29, 2021 by NewCoins

[dikefalos]

I think they will offer some of them as Mini series, like the Tudor Beasts. A secondary market on fire, cause hundreds, or thousands of collectors going crazy to get the coin they missed, is anything than bad for upcoming releases for the RM. Just bad for collectors. And we know how much mints care about collectors money and problems...

[Piperscoins]

42 minutes ago, ArgentSmith said:

Can’t see them being offered together. 

I agree for most, though a few maybe kept back as a special release.

Edited November 29, 2021 by Piperscoins

[jultorsk]

37 minutes ago, NewCoins said:

I hope you are right. But if it is, makes releasing two coins separately a bit of a non event ? 

Sustained publicity and "buzz" in the coin community... not to mention spreading of production capacity into more manageable batches... I think they did not even have a choice. 🤷‍♂️