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Still looking if anyone has either or both. In NGC PF70UC please.
cheers
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2018 sourced, still looking for a 2021 & 2020
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Anyone selling?
Need to be graded by NGC to PF70UC
thanks, Mike
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Going to split and stick on ebay later today, last chance if anyone interested
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Bump, open to offers
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Now split and updated.
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Now priced individually.
1 x 1kg Baird, with certificate: SOLD1 x 1kg Valcambi, with certificate: SOLD2 x 100g Scottsdale: SOLD1 x 500g Metalor, with certificate: SOLD1 x 500g Geiger, with certificate: SOLD3 x 100g Metalor, with certificates: SOLD3 x 100g SAO (Sheffield Assay Office): SOLD1 x 98g Unite or Die (USA bar): SOLDPay by Bank transfer or Paypal FF or Revolut
Will post anywhere, GBP or USD preferred but will take any currency via Revolut (allowing for transaction fees)
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6 minutes ago, Paul said:
My 2oz gold Matt proof, is in the back of the safe deposit box now. It's not going anywhere, any time soon. With the rest of the retirement stack.
I seem to have more ' retirement not selling anytime soon ' stack , than common bullion I used to have
It is a lovely, and different coin
I think Sir, it is fair now to refer to your “stack” as a very fine modern collection, you need to officially ‘come out’ and sell what is left of all that heavy bullion in favour of early proofs and collectables, the dark side calling you 😄
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I don't have a setup sufficient to adequately reflect the loveliness of this coin, so gone down the detail route. It has a satin glisten to it and the difference between this and say a matte BU £5 is quite considerable to my eye, deeper and more gentle, but impossible to show unless in hand. As far as I know, there haven’t been any matte proofs since 1902 outside of couple of 1911, 1937 and 1953 patterns issued for photography purposes (?) super and @Paul, i HODL 😄
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As follows:
1902 5 Sovereign, NGC PF63 Matte: £6,750SOLD1902 2 Sovereign, NGC PF63 Matte: £2,500SOLD1902 Sovereign, NGC PF62 Matte: £850SOLD1902 Crown, NGC PF64 Matte: £ebay
1902 1/2 Crown, NGC PF65 Matte: £ebay
1902 2S, NGC PF64 Matte: £ebay
1902 1S, NGC PF64 Matte: £ebay
Post at buyers choice, cost and risk
Preference is payment by Bank Transfer, although Paypal FF an option.
Will be shipped after this bank holiday weekend rather than letting them sit at the sorting office
Will be listed on Ebay over the weekend due to seller offer. At which point will be withdrawn here and offered prices redacted (of those unsold)
Any questions let me know and thanks for looking. Offers Considered.
Cheers, Mike
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Although a sovereign man at heart, this coin is incredible and I think I would call it my best for 2022. The silky satin toning, in very deep blues and purples at the rim of the coin grading across the fields to the soft greys, pinks and gold tinge of the cameo’s, particularly on the Victoria side are very satisfying
Happy New Year everyone.
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22 hours ago, Taikonaut said:Its their "flagship" coin they were hoping it would be a sellout in days, they raised the mintage figure by more than 70% in some cases hoping to maximise profit, certainly don't want it sitting around unsold passed summer 2023 well passed Charles coronation in May when RM would be issuing another set to commemorate that event. They did not anticipate the lost of momentum in sales, not that people who bought the Jubliee coins won't buy because clearly many who bought it also ordered the Memorial sovereign, but fringe and first time collectors, many who are not usually financially committed to collecting these but would buy now find they had to tighten their belt and thosee extra high mintage was aim for them.
The RM are more institutional than this imo and if it is the case that they expected it to sell out in days it'll be the first time ever. Historically coins just sit on the website and sell out when they sell out, as has been the case with past sovereigns and everything else (before the pump and dump era of the last 2 years) and these will eventually sell out or the window to purchase will close for all "memorial coins". The RM are always behind the general market trend, it takes them 6-12 months to adjust to the market position / demand where we as collectors do within days, good or bad.
With that in mind, neither do I think the mintages have been set "to maximise profits", more a reaction to how the market was and the demand they anticipated from their data sets of the past 5 yrs or so. Which we know the last 2 was very strange and v.extreme. They simply set the mintages to what they think the market wants (and the price to what it will pay) and will adjust it as they go with their profit expectations levelised across their full range of coins. If these coins had come to market in 2021, they would have all gone within the first couple of hours, irrespective of the mintage. Now obviously not, there are less people buying who's sole intention is to immediately sell.
If on the 2023 release, or more likely the 2024 release (imo) the mintages are lower do we assume they are trying to minimise profits? no, of course not. They are constantly chasing the sweet spot, but they are currently dealing with the same cooling market we were at the beginning of the year
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1 hour ago, Taikonaut said:
RM were hoping they were a sellout in days but because it is not shifting quickly enough they put a new announcement that sale will end on 31st December. I won't give them the benefit of the doubt, its obviouse what has happened.
You think that they haven’t sold a few hundred coins, that they haven’t struck yet, in a few days, that this is an issue to the Royal Mint? They strike lots of coins in gold that they are more than happy to sit on for years.
I suspect not, more that @westminstrel is correct in that it was a balls up and was always the case, it’s not unusual for them to make that type of mistake. They are an odd business, but in their weird way they are protective and proud about who they are and what they do and represent. These sovereigns along with the other coins they have tagged as “memorial” is their way of honouring the passing of QEII and they will proudly stand by their mandate.
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1 hour ago, R33f said:Might be still too early to tell whether this release will prove to be a winner or a flop, but as a relative newcomer, one thing I would query is how has the PR/communications campaign for this release been handled compared to previous releases?
As someone who works in mar/comms I was surprised about the relatively short lead-time from announcement and the fairly sparse promotion on social media channels. This could be pretty standard so perhaps I'm wide of the mark as I have no professional experience in the marketing of numismatics / RM collectibles.
For me, the marketing - whilst clearly reaching its core audience (i.e. TSF) - does seem very low key.
Depends what we deem a winner, but in terms of desirability and importance yes, 100% its going to be desirable and important forever more. Its a superb design and the first sovereign of a new monarch and we shouldn’t let the madness of release days distract us from the bigger picture.
Its only in very recent years have any coins sold out in the first days / few hrs (since mid 2020) and that was due to the very weird and pumpy environment we were in. 1989, 2002, 2005, 2012, 2016 & 2017 and everything in between took days if not weeks (and probably months on the early ones). These will all be sold out soon enough if that is what some measure success by.
In terms of mintages these (the 5 and 2 anyway) are low for proof coronation / first of a monarch sovereign sets if you look at anything from Edward VII 1902 proof set onwards. Regardless of what comes, this set is as important as any sovereign set that marked a new monarch and also rarer than most, with the odd exception (1953 for example). Arguably for Sovereign collectors, particularly type collectors this is the most significant and important release in 85yrs, since George VI.
1902 5 coin proof set 8,000 ish sets
1911 5 coin proof set - 2,800 ish sets
1937 5 coin proof set - 5,001 sets
1953 5 coin proof set - 3 or 4 sets
2022 5 coin proof set (KCIII) - 1200 sets (less than 2000 2 Sovereigns in total)
as something to think about, even the 1839 Una has reported mintage of 400 and I doubt that fully accounts for the extra’s struck in the years following 1839.
i grade so I've picked up a few sets todays where I could, i’ll put a 5 coin 70 set together and then move the rest on, a profit would be nice but not essential.
These are superb and i think once im hand collectors will be very reluctant to let them go.
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1 hour ago, ryanwinter73 said:
Has anyone had any experience with buying from the US on Instagram? Claims $8 and 48 hour shipping. TIA
$8 definitely won’t buy a 48hr service. I have had those express services (and also sent in similar time frames) but thats with ups or fedex and its a $40 (ish) dollar service for very low weight (a sovereign for example). Heavier is more expensive. Could be with usps but that can take weeks or months and $8 still seems cheap.
assuming your seller breaks his own laws (and why would they) and incorrectly declares the item and/or declares them as a very low value amount then you might dodge the duty. certain gold types are classed as investment gold and come in duty free, but bullion silver definitely isn't.
You’ll most likely have to pay 20% of the declared value and if its on a usps type service that will use royal mail on arrival in the uk you get hit with an admin charge, which is about £15 i think - and they wont do anything with it until you’ve paid, but its been a long time since i used rhe cheap services as it works out about the same cost to use UPS / DHL / FEDEX and they are better and quicker.
Tbh, personally I wouldn’t bother. However, If it is genuine he’s got his shipping cost wrong and you should prepare to pay 20% on top plus fees and have a long wait. If you dont have too, take it as a bonus, but more than likely you will.
good luck and take care
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With the sad passing of Her Majesty, I wanted to mark my collection by finding something from the first year of Her reign having a wider collection of more modern coins. So, Im not a Maundy collector and certainly have nowhere near the depths of knowledge as some on this forum, such as @richatthecroft, but I had the opportunity to pick up this rarely available, inaugural Maundy set for QEII, handed out by Her at Westminister Abbey in 1953. A mintage of 1025 and markedly different to any other Maundy under Her reign, being struck in sterling silver and the only set having BRITT:OMN in the legend (dropped from 1954). As a sovereign and half sovereign collector in the main, I would have liked something in gold, but those are a far greater rarity.
"Elizabeth the Second by the Grace of God, Queen of all the Britains, Defender of the Faith".
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Half Sovereigns 2020 & 2021
in UK (Graded only)
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Many thanks Karl, indeed it is. Hope you're well.
I have recently got sorted but thank you.
I'll close the thread.