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The coming Gold crash


Wonger
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1 hour ago, Wonger said:

Takes both sides to make a market and I think its about to fall off a cliff 😉

Have you got anything else you predict will collapse to about 20% of their current Market value 😉

Since your March price prediction of gold to £400 it has had double digit growth. Any more predictions would be appreciated 🤠

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3 hours ago, TheApe said:

Wonger has been at this since 2018. This just gets more and more comical.🤣

Beware all, every idiot is right at least once.

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Since then..

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Support held and I was long Gold and Silver posted on here for all to see, the comedy is therefore on you my friend! 😁

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I offer a bet to anyone who might be interested:

If the spot price of gold falls under 500 US Dollars within a timeframe we both agree on, you will get 3 ounces of gold from me, as soon as the spot price falls under this mark. Should it not fall under this mark within the agreed time, I will get one ounce of gold from my counterpart in this bet. The basis is the spot price at the end of the week.

I will not agree to this bet, if the suggested time is too long because I couldn't be bothered to wait for my free ounce of gold for ages but as it will fall under 400 US Dollars soon anyway, I don't see an issue there. May I kindly suggest, by the end of 2020?

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Someone correct me If I'm wrong

If banks lower interest rates doesn't that suck currency out of bonds and into other assets? 

That existing currency along with all the extra currency the fed created have to go somewhere right? obviously one place it's going atm is stocks

How much of it is going into gold currently and how much more of it will end up in gold (& silver and bitcoin) in the next couple years+? you would think a lot

After QE started in November 2008 gold went up 90% from it's march high of $1050 to $1900 in three years. I might be wrong but as best I can google the fed QE'd 3.6 trillion, not sure how much other banks QE'd

If they do similar QE over the coming years which seems likely, what's to say gold can't go up 90% from the 2020 pre QE high? which was about $1325, so $2500 ish

$2500 gold in 2022 seems way more likely to me than your soon $500 prediction

I wouldn't be surprised if we never see gold under $1450 again 

Edit> I'm probably thinking about it wrong, if $1900 was possible before with QE then maybe the starting point is $1900 when that currency flows back in + new QE so it's more like $3500 is possible 

 

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Help thread for members new to silver/gold stacking/collecting

The Money Printing Myth the Fed can't and don't money print - Deflation ahead, not inflation 

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8 hours ago, Kman said:

Someone correct me If I'm wrong

If banks lower interest rates doesn't that suck currency out of bonds and into other assets? 

That existing currency along with all the extra currency the fed created have to go somewhere right? obviously one place it's going atm is stocks

How much of it is going into gold currently and how much more of it will end up in gold (& silver and bitcoin) in the next couple years+? you would think a lot

After QE started in November 2008 gold went up 90% from it's march high of $1050 to $1900 in three years. I might be wrong but as best I can google the fed QE'd 3.6 trillion, not sure how much other banks QE'd

If they do similar QE over the coming years which seems likely, what's to say gold can't go up 90% from the 2020 pre QE high? which was about $1325, so $2500 ish

$2500 gold in 2022 seems way more likely to me than your soon $500 prediction

I wouldn't be surprised if we never see gold under $1450 again 

Edit> I'm probably thinking about it wrong, if $1900 was possible before with QE then maybe the starting point is $1900 when that currency flows back in + new QE so it's more like $3500 is possible 

 

 

historic data suggests rising rates at times of higher gold prices.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWt2jewEN9Q

 

HH

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42 minutes ago, HawkHybrid said:

 

historic data suggests rising rates at times of higher gold prices.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWt2jewEN9Q

Isn't that flawed because they are comparing low interest rates without QE

Like saying an egg is an omelette not a pancake

But an egg (low interest rates) is an omelette (high gold) when you add other ingredients: QE and fear - as seen in 2008

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Help thread for members new to silver/gold stacking/collecting

The Money Printing Myth the Fed can't and don't money print - Deflation ahead, not inflation 

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17 minutes ago, Kman said:

Isn't that flawed because they are comparing low interest rates without QE

Like saying an egg is an omelette not a pancake

But an egg (low interest rates) is an omelette (high gold) when you add other ingredients: QE and fear - as seen in 2008

 

dec 2015, the first rate hike in many years til then, was also the lowest gold price($) for

the decade it's in.

the media rationale of lower rates means higher gold prices is flawed. (the media are not

analysts, so they only say what (sounds right)people are willing to buy.)

 

HH

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25 minutes ago, HawkHybrid said:

the media rationale of lower rates means higher gold prices is flawed. (the media are not

analysts, so they only say what (sounds right)people are willing to buy.

What was gold doing 2008-2011 when interest rates were low?

What's going been doing since March with low interest rates?

You could argue there's no correlation between interest rates and gold price and it's just the fear and QE but I don't see how you could say high interest rates = high gold 

Help thread for members new to silver/gold stacking/collecting

The Money Printing Myth the Fed can't and don't money print - Deflation ahead, not inflation 

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25 minutes ago, Kman said:

What was gold doing 2008-2011 when interest rates were low?

What's going been doing since March with low interest rates?

You could argue there's no correlation between interest rates and gold price and it's just the fear and QE but I don't see how you could say high interest rates = high gold 

 

1980 high rates = high gold price.

in shorter time frames the gold price will fluctuate but the longer term driving force of

rising interest rates is to produce higher gold prices.

(there is sometimes divergence at certain turning points, but on the bigger picture the

correlation is quite clear)

 

HH

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1 minute ago, sovereignsteve said:

No way to compare current conditions with the past as we are in uncharted waters.

One might say unprecedented 😀

Technically, alcohol is a solution..

'It [socialism] poses a growing threat, however unintentional, to the freedom of this country, for there is no freedom where the State totally controls the economy. Personal freedom and economic freedom are indivisible. You can’t have one without the other. You can’t lose one without losing the other.'

"There is no such thing as public money, there is only taxpayers' money"

Let not England forget her precedence of teaching nations how to live.

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