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Gold Monitoring Thread £ GBP only


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This topic is to discuss price action in GBP, to discuss price action in $ USD, please see this topic: https://thesilverforum.com/topic/19962-gold-monitoring-thread-usd-only/

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9 hours ago, bobski said:

So they're effectively printing more gold and devaluing the real stuff? Nothing surprises me

£1,859.07

The US treasury bought 8000 tonnes of gold in 1933. Nowadays that lent to the Fed at a $42.222 rate, so at a market price of $2111 the Fed has 50x leverage, that rises if the dollar falls against gold (gold price rises). In turn the Fed can use that 50x leverage to buy (or sell) 123x leveraged paper gold (at recent levels) ... that can be used to direct the price of gold into alignment with the dollar a.k.a dollar aligned to the price of gold. US debt expansion when drawn using log scale Y axis, as you should for longer time periods, is more a straight line, many charts however are drawn using linear scale Y axis, so US debt expansion is often (falsely) claimed to be a unsustainable exponential - whereas it is, the dollar will over time continue to decline relative to the price of gold as the US target a 2% inflation rate (devaluation of dollars). All of that secures the dollar, that in turn others use as a international trade settlement currency instead of gold. Based on a foundation of retaining a large amount of physical gold, but where there are many claims to each ounce of gold. If you can't physically touch the gold your 'own' then any claim is potentially in the same queue as 120+ others. Gold makes for a good alternative to bonds/cash deposits (paper money), a 67/33 stock/gold can broadly compare to all-stock but with less volatility (will rise less during good stock times, fall less during stock bad times).

At the end of the day, it is those holding physical gold that get to determine how the 120 claims upon each ounce may be settled. Even funds claiming to be backed by physical gold could see that gold vanish under a gold-rush condition.

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Is now a good time to enter the stock market though?

(Not me!)

Technically, alcohol is a solution..

'It [socialism] poses a growing threat, however unintentional, to the freedom of this country, for there is no freedom where the State totally controls the economy. Personal freedom and economic freedom are indivisible. You can’t have one without the other. You can’t lose one without losing the other.'

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5 minutes ago, Roy said:

Is now a good time to enter the stock market though?

(Not me!)

Whilst a year of stock and gold both down do periodically occur, there's the prospect that either stock or gold will by up in a year time, where those gains offset the loss in the other asset (and typically more). 50/50 and in a years time rebalance ... and likely you'll end up holding either more ounces of gold, or more stock shares (lower average price per share). So yes. Supplemented with averaging in and out over many years and it all tends to average out well - better than having stayed in cash.

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3 hours ago, modofantasma said:

Missing some zeros there 

£1859

What do we think folks?

Price seems to be stuck in a range between $2331 and $2315 ish we've not been back down to test Tuesdays lows yet but price has been coming down pretty hard from the $2330 level 

 

😮oi! £££ please on here😮🤔😁😁

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1 minute ago, kimchi said:

What's oil got to do, got to with it?

What's oil but a second hand crustacean?

 

£1860.25 :)

🤔a test to see if anyone actually reads stuff on here🤔🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️😁

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