Today I Received.....

[paulmerton]

4 minutes ago, Zhorro said:

This is an interesting picture.  It almost looks as if the edging reeds have been removed to produce the "smooth" edge for the SOTD.  Has anyone weighed one of these SOTDs?

If they're made with the same blanks, they'll weigh the same. They would be struck within a smooth collar rather than having material shaved off the coin after being struck. Any artefacts visible on the smooth edge would have been present on the collar.

[Agaupl]

6 minutes ago, Zhorro said:

This is an interesting picture.  It almost looks as if the edging reeds have been removed to produce the "smooth" edge for the SOTD.  Has anyone weighed one of these SOTDs?

I thought this was just from the stamping of the blanks. I have the same kind of thing on some minted bars. 
 

Beautiful coin btw. @Charliemouse I’m jealous!

[Zhorro]

Some more old silver coins which arrived this week.

1) Edward II, Silver Farthing, 1307-1327, London mint, S1474

 

2) Edward III, Silver Halfpenny, 1344-51, London mint, EDWARDVS REX, S1557

3) Henry VIII, Silver Sovereign Penny, circa 1529, Bishop Thomas Wolsey, Durham, S2352

"T" and "W" can be seen either side of the shield.

I am assuming all these are genuine as I am still learning!  I am buying coins with Spink numbers attributed to them - and then trying to confirm this with the catalogue.

[AOB]

1 hour ago, Silverlocks said:

Some Gillicks, I see.  Try getting a couple of Machins and George Vs - both readily available in good condition and very photogenic.

Thanks sir, yes I have more gillicks(date run) than the new copper like sovs. I haven’t branch into the machins nor George V’s. the older Sovs I don’t get as some definition quality is poor and to be frank, I know zero about all that craic 😂

[Silverlocks]

34 minutes ago, AOB said:

Thanks sir, yes I have more gillicks(date run) than the new copper like sovs. I haven’t branch into the machins nor George V’s. the older Sovs I don’t get as some definition quality is poor and to be frank, I know zero about all that craic 😂

Victorian era sovs are often in bad condition as they were circulated coinage.  George V sovs were taken out of circulation in WWI and never put back into circulation as inflation devalued the pound to the point that the melt value of the coins exceeded their face value.  However, there was a large demand for sovereigns as bullion, particularly in India, Egypt and other parts of the Middle East and Asia.  In these regions they were used for savings, dowries and other such things where gifts or holdings of gold were the done thing.  Sovs were popular for this due to their reputation for quality control and consistent weight.  

Production of George V sovs was discontinued in London in 1917, but continued in Australia and (later) South Africa after WWI, largely to meet the demand for bullion - the Sovereign had essentially become the first retail bullion coin, beating the Krugerrand by about half a century.  However, they were never circulated as coinage after WWI so they tend to remain in relatively good condition.  Large numbers were produced during this period - something like half of all sovs ever produced were made between 1911 and 1932 - so good ones are common and fairly easy to obtain.

Thus, it's fairly easy to get examples in good condition in a way that isn't the case with earlier ones.  They also don't tend to carry very large premiums due to the numbers produced.  I think they're quite underrated because folks tend to focus on rarity.  Shields are the poster child for this; you see real munters being bought and sold for premium prices, although (to give shields their due) examples in good condition aren't common due to their age and being used as circulated coinage.

Unfortunately, while sovs are good for stacking due to their low premiums (by fractional standards) and exemption from capital gains tax, you do need to do your homework and get some appreciation of their numismatics in order to have an idea of the value of the coins.  However, I think for George V, Gillick and Machin sovs this is less of an issue as they are mostly low premium items and tend to be readily available in good condition.

Edited July 14, 2023 by Silverlocks

[AOB]

That was a great insight indeed, I appreciate that - with regards to looking at older stuff, I do some reading here and there but always consider myself as beginner which can always learn you know.. so if I decide to start looking at the older Sovs I’ll give you a shout for some advice bud. Many thanks 👍🏽

[LiquidMetalsUK]

Super cool Auction win 

Thanks @Panda6Pack

Edited July 14, 2023 by LiquidMetalsUK

[Cassius]

Let Me Take You Back in Time...

This is from 431 Bc - 393 Bc. One of the first coins that started the Globalisation Process (it circulated way beyond Greece)...I don't know if this coin was at The Peloponesian War, born of Plato, death of Pericles, death of Socrates, but it might just been in a General or Senator pockets at the time...Ladies and Gents,

The Greek TetraDrahm...

Edited July 14, 2023 by Cassius

[Silverlocks]

13 minutes ago, AOB said:

That was a great insight indeed, I appreciate that - with regards to looking at older stuff, I do some reading here and there but always consider myself as beginner which can always learn you know.. so if I decide to start looking at the older Sovs I’ll give you a shout for some advice bud. Many thanks 👍🏽

Get a copy of the Marsh Sovereign book, Allen's Grading British Coins, and a current edition of Spink's Coins of England and the United Kingdom.  Allen has pictures of various obverse and reverse designs in different conditions, so can be useful to help assess the condition of sovs, Marsh has mintage statistics and backgrounds and a price guide (a bit out of date), and Spink has current market prices.

[AOB]

31 minutes ago, Silverlocks said:

Get a copy of the Marsh Sovereign book, Allen's Grading British Coins, and a current edition of Spink's Coins of England and the United Kingdom.  Allen has pictures of various obverse and reverse designs in different conditions, so can be useful to help assess the condition of sovs, Marsh has mintage statistics and backgrounds and a price guide (a bit out of date), and Spink has current market prices.

Thanks bud, I will have a look into those and I appreciate the knowledge. Many thanks

[ChrisSilver]

Perth Mint 2023 1/10th oz Gold Kangaroo

 

[Silverlocks]

A 1oz dollaridoo, and perhaps some of the other collectibles like Kooks are on my hit list at some point

[Fenlander1]

3 minutes ago, Silverlocks said:

A 1oz dollaridoo, and perhaps some of the other collectibles like Kooks are on my hit list at some point

There is a 1oz roo in the sales listings atm.

[Silverlocks]

1 minute ago, Fenlander1 said:

There is a 1oz roo in the sales listings atm.

Unfortunately I don't have a spare £1,600 for another couple of weeks.  They do pop up semi-regularly, so I dare say sometime one will come along when I do have some PMs budget online.

Edited July 14, 2023 by Silverlocks

[JamesH]

2 hours ago, Cassius said:

Let Me Take You Back in Time...

This is from 431 Bc - 393 Bc. One of the first coins that started the Globalisation Process (it circulated way beyond Greece)...I don't know if this coin was at The Peloponesian War, born of Plato, death of Pericles, death of Socrates, but it might just been in a General or Senator pockets at the time...Ladies and Gents,

The Greek TetraDrahm...

 

Wow…what an absolute gem

[Fenlander1]

There are so many nice coins about at the minute it's hard knowing which ones to spend the budget on.

[Silverlocks]

1 minute ago, Fenlander1 said:

There are so many nice coins about at the minute it's hard knowing which ones to spend the budget on.

Yes, there are many nice shiny things I'd like to get - I could spend an indecent amount of money on stuff from Perth Mint if I had it.  

[Silverlocks]

In related news, the mad relief on Athenian Owl tetradrachms is lovely; for a 2000+ year old coin it's in spiffing condition.

[Cassius]

7 minutes ago, JamesH said:

Wow…what an absolute gem

😊 Thanks

[Cassius]

2 minutes ago, Silverlocks said:

In related news, the mad relief on Athenian Owl tetradrachms is lovely; for a 2000+ year old coin it's in spiffing condition.

Well...I did pay a small fortune for it...but just the thought it has almost 2500 years...it s insane.

[ChardsCoinandBullionDealer]

14 hours ago, Aldebaran said:

These arrived, thank you Chards, I must try harder with my photography 🌞

You're very welcome, we're glad they arrived promptly!

Here is our Blog on how we do our Photography here at Chards! 
https://www.chards.co.uk/guides/coin-photography-kit-taking-photos-the-chards-way/1046

[Ted1945]

Huge thanks to GoldDiggerDave for sorting this out for me. Anyone looking for help with grading, general good sense and great customer service need look no further. Very patient too!

 

[TheShinyStuff]

8 minutes ago, Ted1945 said:

Huge thanks to GoldDiggerDave for sorting this out for me. Anyone looking for help with grading, general good sense and great customer service need look no further. Very patient too!

 

Love it. A perfect example of what I think is the single most important coin of the whole coronation series.

I wonder what the going rate for an MS70 will be...

[Jake0111]

6 minutes ago, Ted1945 said:

Huge thanks to GoldDiggerDave for sorting this out for me. Anyone looking for help with grading, general good sense and great customer service need look no further. Very patient too!

 

Nice, its first 2023 SOTD i have seen graded

I really need to get round to sending mine to GoldDiggerDave 

[Mrpound]

Lazy bloody Postie has been holding out on me 😒