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An absolute belter of a coin and a fantastic choice, well done!! This or a Britannia...at a small extra cost...no contest whatsoever!
Stunning coin!!!

This beauty arrived yesterday…! I dont have any of the beasts themselves, though couldn’t resist owning the completer. The design is just fab. Bullion is all I could stretch to for this!

I actually received this yesterday.  It slightly sad the the first rule of fight club gold stacking is never to talk about it, so I can't tell friends or neighbours.
However, since I am excited about this, I thought I would add it here.  My first ever 1oz gold coin: a QB Completer!
Only bullion, but apart from some very minor scratches around the rim, whch I think are due to it rubbing against another coin in the tube, it looks perfect to me.
I had been agonising about getting an ordinary Britannia, but I think this was worth the small extra cost in the grand scheme of things. 🙂

Sorry, dont agree with that. There are obviously different 999 grades of blanks otherwise Perth and Mexico would have same issue with Kooks and Libertads etc which do not seem to exhibit this issue as others have already pointed out. 

Not one proof coin I have bought has ever has black fibres inside the capsule like on this set. It might "happen" but that doesn't mean I find it acceptable. Similarly with Milk spots on brand new coins.
Just to clarify if you received a brand new set with those issues, would you be happy?

I am worried enough about buying one proof coin (especially silver) from the Mint, let alone a set of ten, that takes a brave man or woman indeed imo. This 100% absolutely should not be the case but alas many of us know the Mint too well by now
The ridiculous thing is they sometimes get it SO right. For example I've never had a problem with proof Sovs. I believe it's different departments or 'teams' at fault (perhaps QC only) but that may be another topic.
The really worrying thing on these is the milk spots. That points to a bad batch of blanks (not necessarily for all 300, but there's a fair chance). I'd be nervous about holding a set of these, much less exposing them to greater risk by getting them graded. Milk spots happen, but on quality coins should be very few and far between. I've only ever had one bullion Kook milk on me out of hundreds, for example, and I was shocked to see it, such is Perth's quality. Worse was a proof Libertad in a set, but that was years after production. These should not be turning up milked, or milking after days.

Yes and no, and 'maybe, we just don't know what they use for different releases'. As I said the Oriental Brits don't spot like the straight Brits in my experience, never seen one milked, though I'm sure it happens.
These may well milk in future, that would certainly be my fear. But to arrive milked or showing signs of probable milking starting is a completely valid reason for returns for Proofs - the Mint accept this.

The Isle of Man have already issued an Alice in Wonderland set of 50ps.  It will be interesting to see how the RM's designs compare.
https://www.westminstercollection.com/p-531F/Alices-Adventures-in-Wonderland-BU-50p-Set.aspx?sn=Z

I am worried enough about buying one proof coin (especially silver) from the Mint, let alone a set of ten, that takes a brave man or woman indeed imo. This 100% absolutely should not be the case but alas many of us know the Mint too well by now
The ridiculous thing is they sometimes get it SO right. For example I've never had a problem with proof Sovs. I believe it's different departments or 'teams' at fault (perhaps QC only) but that may be another topic.
The really worrying thing on these is the milk spots. That points to a bad batch of blanks (not necessarily for all 300, but there's a fair chance). I'd be nervous about holding a set of these, much less exposing them to greater risk by getting them graded. Milk spots happen, but on quality coins should be very few and far between. I've only ever had one bullion Kook milk on me out of hundreds, for example, and I was shocked to see it, such is Perth's quality. Worse was a proof Libertad in a set, but that was years after production. These should not be turning up milked, or milking after days.

I am worried enough about buying one proof coin (especially silver) from the Mint, let alone a set of ten, that takes a brave man or woman indeed imo. This 100% absolutely should not be the case but alas many of us know the Mint too well by now
The ridiculous thing is they sometimes get it SO right. For example I've never had a problem with proof Sovs. I believe it's different departments or 'teams' at fault (perhaps QC only) but that may be another topic.
The really worrying thing on these is the milk spots. That points to a bad batch of blanks (not necessarily for all 300, but there's a fair chance). I'd be nervous about holding a set of these, much less exposing them to greater risk by getting them graded. Milk spots happen, but on quality coins should be very few and far between. I've only ever had one bullion Kook milk on me out of hundreds, for example, and I was shocked to see it, such is Perth's quality. Worse was a proof Libertad in a set, but that was years after production. These should not be turning up milked, or milking after days.

Thanks for this comment, Im still learning about PM and yes I have been living under a rock for 20 years it would seem, . I didn't know of milk spotting until a month after I started this year. However I have come to accept them on bullion products  as they are relatively cheap compared to proof coins, I then realised it was the norm to recieve milk spotted products from a fresh tube. To me I thought with anything when buying brand new I would get a pristine condition product, little did I know this was not the case. Anyhow at a small expense compared to proof coins, I can now near enough accept it but not happy about it.
For proof coins I thought they would be in mint condition, prime condition, the creme de la creme of silver coins. Is this not the case and I should accept milk spots and little blemishes on day one? (The fibres didn't really concern me for some reason, probably because they were not part of the coin)
I understand milk spots might build up overtime and the coin would deteriorate over time, but to expect that on day one of owning a proof coin is abit of a ask for me.
Is my expectation too high for this? 
Greatful for everyones insights on this, good or bad. 👍
Thanks
 
 
 
 

I would not complain or even worry if the RM were charging £600 for the silver £30 for the box and £100 for profit and postage £730-£750 should be about right for the quality of coins they are sending, I’d have zero compliant over any defect but £1,800+ buyers pay for the right to get something of a very high quality and craftsmanship, what we are all seeing in these pictures is a very poor show.   Suppose there’s no right or wrong and people have higher expectations than others.  For me I buy bullion and accept it for what it is for the metal nothing else, when I buy a brand new proof it has to be totally problem free, I’m happy to pay 3/5x bullion price for something of quality.  If it’s not quality it goes back. 
 
No different for diamonds you can get a 1 carat for £600 and some will pay £6000 for a higher quality one.  I would not pay £6,000 for a £600 quality one I’d just be getting ripped off.   You can’t pay a premium for quality you don’t get I value my hard earned money too much so I demand quality for the premium I pay. 

9 out of 10 were fine, but then came Griffin.

Disapointing to read of these failures but not surprising. Like many others who bought the QB 1oz gold proof completer mine had to be sent back multiple times and their inability to get that right has left me no longer wanting to spend money with the RM. As I said in a post earlier in this thread I was online for this release but didn't pull the trigger for a couple of reasons one of which being fears of quality. You can't trust them to get 1 coin right let alone an entire set of 10...
I hope all of you who have got bad sets and are wanting to return wind up with something you are happy with. The RM really need to get their act together.

Ok I’ve finally had the chance to look at mine in greater detail. 
 
Not happy at all. There is a scattering of milk spots on 3-4 of the coins.

Just boxed mine up for return, and will drop them off at the Post Office on Monday.
Apart from two of the coins, (looked near perfect to me) the other eight all had milk spotting to a lesser or greater extent. Some quite bad!
It's a crying shame, I could really find nothing wrong with them, apart from milk spots. If only, although a big if!
It did not have to be this way!
Following a conversation with the Royal Mint yesterday re above, I have now received an email from Royal Mail - Tracked return service to Royal Mint. The label which you print out says 'Tracked 48'. As anybody used this before? I Assume this is not the same as Next Day Special delivery, with enhanced compensation? in which case no good?      

My understanding is that they are melted. If sufficient numbers are returned, they will restrike and replace. If only a few are returned, they won’t bother restriking and will refund, meaning a lower mintage.

Great video as always But when it comes to the QC of the RM....I'm just never surprised..sending out a damaged box let alone a few poor quality proof coins tells me that the RM do not care what they send out to their clients as long as they are getting the cash in! Its unacceptable, that's why I never purchase any silver proofs or sets from the RM any more...its like going to a casino and betting on Red or Black..50/50 if you are going to win...or in the RM's  case...50/50 if you are going to receive your coins or sets that are perfect (which they should be) or damaged😒😒😒🤔🤔

The fact that their relationship with NGC ended so abruptly after only two releases (Mayflower and War/Peace) suggests that the view of the Mint on the quality of their coins is absolutely not the same as NGC.
You will remember that they offered the PF70 on all those coins and in the end were unable to fully deliver (as can be seen from the NGC census). I was one of three who even received a PF69 (and following a complaint a PF70 too). I think they thought it was ok to do that. Of course in hindsight I am happy with it, as it is a specific rarety, but it does highlight an issue that they probably need to address.
 

Perhaps share COA numbers so you'll know if you've received someone else's return

Roll up, roll up.
RM Gravy train launching something new tomorrow - choo choo !!!

Magic mushrooms, as in the story?
This is rather ambiguous, and open to interpretation "so hopefully mine will get bigger". Let us know if it works, but please, no photos!
🙂
 

You missed out "Oldfella Pili-Pili Him Bilong Misis Kwin"

or perhaps:
"Number One Bigfella Him Bilong Misis Queen"
 

It's a real conundrum for those with the 1/4s isn't it? A strange release in a sense, but I do love it. I got the bullion and am absolutely delighted with it
If I didn't have one this would definitely be the one I didn't get but wanted, I can't think of any others (as a modern coin collector). Luckily I haven't seen the proof in hand or that would probably be the one!

Well if it's not all on my 2 kilo gold proof I will not be a happy Insignificant Squire to a Knight of the Most Ancient and Most Noble Order of the Thistle!