Pampfan

11 minutes ago, Tn21 said:

@Pampfan when you get a chance can you give us the lo-down. 

The consensus so far suggests this item is the equivalent to a lemon in the used car market

the picture of the bar looks like it is a real bar - but anyone can get a picture of a real bar. 

since no picture of the back of it - is a red flag to me - also why anyone would sell it on ebay - knowing they would lose 15% in ebay fees - would just be better selling to a shop.

Was 2021 the best year ever for US mint releases?

Your best bet would be to call one of the big online dealers JMBullion and Apmex with the list of bullion coins you want to buy and just ask them.  In my experience if they list the coins as BU - then you should have no issues.  

Good luck.

18 hours ago, Gruff said:

Updated list:

I think  it would be easier to read if you removed all the prices already won.

(In my old age I need a magnifier to read this - LOL)

Could it be that he put up the auction to alert people that this particular bar was stolen and he was searching for it?

Additionally, If you were going to fake a pamp bar - why would you fake such a rare and obscure size in a old holder.  It would must certainly get the most scrutiny from anyone buying it.

My final thoughts on this.

here is a vintage silver fortuna - different from the current rendition.

Pamp has changed the design details of the Fortuna bar a few times over the years.  The one you refernce above is the most current version - in the Veriscan assay package.  The other bar must be at least 15 to 20 years old based on the design details - which include each individual coin having a figure inside it. If you look at the above - the coins are just blank.

I think the reason it looks blurred is because it still has the protective coating over the bar.

In my opinion - the bar looks good!

But the only way to be sure 100% - it needs to be tested.

The Assay card is an older one - and the bar itself is on the rarer side being 50 grams in the old Assay.

On the front of the bar - (picture is blurry) - I believe that the coins in the Fortuna horn have the old style motifs on them - if they do - then that would make me feel stronger on it being real.

21 minutes ago, DarkChameleon said:

No kidding, you sending them all in for grading?

Yes 

I was able to get them all. What a crazy time to get them.

just compared it to some graded examples - its a fake! 

well - we know what it should weigh - if that is correct - you move in to the next step - comparison of it to pictures online or ebay which have been graded. 

what is the weight of the coin - it appears that the half dime, dime, and quarter all had the same Heraldic Eagle Reverse that year 

if it weighs

1.35 grams it’s a half-dime

2.7 grams - it’s a dime 

6.74 grams - it’s a quarter

Hope this helps

it looks like a half-dime 

here is the red book info on it

Rhodium is close to $30,000 now.  What a crazy ride in this precious metal.  Where will it end up?

Rhodium now at $23,000 per ounce. 

Those that bought at $900 in 2016 and have held on until today - have had the greatest precious metal return in the last 5 years by far.

Only two questions left - can it go higher? and when is it time to sell? ( Just think - if you had one and sold it today - you could buy a 10 oz pamp gold bar with room left for a 100 oz pamp silver bar.  - shocking) 

5 hours ago, Junglist85 said:

Anyones confirmed order of the v75 ase still say 'processing' on the mint website? 

Mine was shipped on Saturday!

Was able to get my hands on one of these from the mint today. What a crazy event - took 25 minutes of refreshing of the webpage and non-stop persistence. 

I will be in as well