2024 Proof sovereign

[westminstrel]

Just now, SiCole said:

Sounds like it will be sold to be a SOTD sovereign. The coronation ones were sold prior to the day.

Probably look identical and you will need to send in with box for NGC to class it as the 75th birthday on the grading.

Sold prior to the day, yes, but will still be struck on the day of the occasion.

And most likely it will have a “75” privy if the crowned portrait is used.

[SiCole]

2 minutes ago, westminstrel said:

Sold prior to the day, yes, but will still be struck on the day of the occasion.

And most likely it will have a “75” privy if the crowned portrait is used.

Yes its in the name tbh. 75 privy would be a nice touch and better than identical coins.

[westminstrel]

43 minutes ago, SiCole said:

Yes its in the name tbh. 75 privy would be a nice touch and better than identical coins.

They did a crowned 65 privy for QE II’s Sapphire Jubilee in 2018…

… and a crowned 95 privy for HM’s 95th Birthday in 2021.

So there’s definitely a precedent here.

[GoldDiggerDave]

You just can’t see the privy marks they are tiny.  
 

Give me a shield back SOTD. 

[refero]

if i m not mistaken (i remember the stress while queueing...) the coronation Sotd was released on the 24th of April (and strucked on coronation day, 6th may, my birthday lol)

[paulmerton]

6 minutes ago, refero said:

if i m not mistaken (i remember the stress while queueing...) the coronation Sotd was released on the 24th of April (and strucked on coronation day, 6th may, my birthday lol)

25 April

[paulmerton]

1 minute ago, paulmerton said:

25 April

No, you were right, it was the 24th. Pebcak 🤣

[refero]

up to 7500 looks like a fair (finally) amount of full sovereigns, for the market to quickly absorb them and for future sales to keep up their value

[Olivard]

53 minutes ago, refero said:

up to 7500 looks like a fair (finally) amount of full sovereigns, for the market to quickly absorb them and for future sales to keep up their value

Depends on what price they finally settle on.

[Silverlocks]

1 hour ago, GoldDiggerDave said:

You just can’t see the privy marks they are tiny.  
 

Give me a shield back SOTD. 

 

Should have done that in 2021 - 200th anniversary of the first shields.

[JohnV66]

2 minutes ago, Olivard said:

Depends on what price they finally settle on.

By the figures provided by the forum, that's 8,600 proof sovereigns in total. That's not too bad - right around the mintages issued between 1990 - 1997. All of those years now command significant premiums @ PF70.

[refero]

10 minutes ago, JohnV66 said:

By the figures provided by the forum, that's 8,600 proof sovereigns in total. That's not too bad - right around the mintages issued between 1990 - 1997. All of those years now command significant premiums @ PF70.

yes, true. But dont forget 1985-1997 only proof sovs were minted..

[refero]

15 minutes ago, Silverlocks said:

Should have done that in 2021 - 200th anniversary of the first shields

isnt 1825 first shield bullion sovereign?

Edited October 25, 2023 by refero

[paulmerton]

Topically, RM made a new page about the reverse designs this week

https://www.royalmint.com/stories/collect/the-sovereign-reverse-designs/

[Silverlocks]

4 minutes ago, refero said:

isnt 1825 first full shield bullion sov?

Have to look it up, but I thought it was 1821.  You might be right.

Edit: Yes, you're right, according to the interwebs they were still using the G&D reverse in 1821.  Cunningham's law in action.

Edited October 25, 2023 by Silverlocks

[Sc391]

I have two subscriptions for proof sovereigns- the RM notified me today that the money will be taken for these shortly.  Will the lower mintage help with the resale value or is the collecting community suffering from sov overload?

Second question- will this SOTD be a desirable sov to own?  I was able to get a coronation but am inclined to pass on the Bday issue.  What do you think?

thanks for your thoughts 

[refero]

i dont think this proof sov will get any additional value anytime soon. It "should" (of course you never know...) be the first of a long (?) series of normal sovereigns.. like the QE fourth design ones...2000-2001-2003-2004 etc etc. 

Low mintage should help but not that much. I ll grab one nonetheless, but only because i'm doing a year run collection and i find less painful to keep buying the current ones as they get released, rather than taking a break and then having to fill holes..

As for the Sotd i would say 100% is a no go. 

Edited October 25, 2023 by refero

[Olivard]

15 hours ago, refero said:

isnt 1825 first shield bullion sovereign?

That's 2025's special reverse decided.

 

Edited October 26, 2023 by Olivard

[MrStacker]

Correct me if I'm wrong but will this release most likely have a queuing system to log into their website like the previous "special" releases?

[Olivard]

There usually is every time they launch a new product.

[SiCole]

12 minutes ago, MrStacker said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but will this release most likely have a queuing system to log into their website like the previous "special" releases?

Give golddiggerdave a PM he can reserve you some stock so no need to queue bud.

[Allgoldcoins]

29 minutes ago, MrStacker said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but will this release most likely have a queuing system to log into their website like the previous "special" releases?

We will have them available to buy without the need to queue on the day of the launch, I can only say it is very close, and I think people will be pleased with the mintages.

PM me if you want me to guarantee you a chance to order, unlike the mint only those who have pre-registered will get the link to buy, and we will make sure there is enough to satisfy that list.

I wish I could give you more information, but due to the embargo I am simply not allowed. 

[Paul]

Everyone just don't buy anything at launch. Will be lovely to watch. If nobody buys anything see what the market does

It won't be anything special or unique so you won't be missing out 

Let the flippers, enjoy the journey

Just boycott this sovereign as a social experiment to watch and enjoy what the free market does 

Edited October 26, 2023 by Paul

[SeverinDigsSovereigns]

10 minutes ago, Paul said:

Everyone just don't buy anything at launch. Will be lovely to watch. If nobody buys anything see what the market does

It won't be anything special or unique so you won't be missing out 

Let the flippers, enjoy the journey

Just boycott this sovereign as a social experiment to watch and enjoy what the free market does 

Speaking of which the new definitive did surprisingly well. The 125 gold sets sold out pretty much the next day if I recall correctly

[westminstrel]

1 hour ago, SeverinDigsSovereigns said:

Speaking of which the new definitive did surprisingly well. The 125 gold sets sold out pretty much the next day if I recall correctly

I think they are still available from several dealers. I can’t see them selling for a profit in the short to medium term.