Today I Received.....

[Silvergun]

1 x Bullion full sovereign and 3 bullion half sovereigns.

Edited September 3, 2017 by Silvergun

[Augustus1]

well not quite true not today, I actually got theses last week but I have not had chance to post , anyway nothing special billion coins, two 1/20 gold libs 2017, obtained from a forum company supporter, they were not expensive and cheaper than gold.be at the time . sorry for poor images but you get the subject.

thank you dean.m

[Lindeman]

Today - bought and received at the London Coins auction, just a couple of common sovereigns - but always good to buy gold at a reasonable price. A whole load of sovereigns up for sale. 

1912 London and 1920 Perth full sovereigns. Reasonable condition, nothing special..but I did avoid a lot of the ex- jewellery stuff. 

[augur]

Jubilee Prussian Double Crown or 20 Goldmark and Sovereign from the same year. 

Nephew and Uncle one year before becoming opponents in The Great War. 

(The 20 Goldmark is thinner and slightly larger but contains less weight and gold than the sovereign)

 

[ifing]

21 minutes ago, augur said:

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(The 20 Goldmark is thinner and slightly larger but contains less weight and gold than the sovereign)

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But the 20 Mark is so much nicer, lovely coin.

[Xander]

These 1/4 ozs arrived the other day.

[Sovereign]

2002 full proof sov ,, was advertised on ebay and sold as a bullion  somone must seen this?! 

 

2012 full proof sov from Bullion by post ! 

No box or coa

 

both going to @Numistacker with the others ?

[Sovereign]

2 minutes ago, shortstack68 said:

Sold as bullion because there could have been problems with it?  Arshimo does this sometimes with problem proofs 

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Full-2002-Gold-Sovereign-In-Original-Royal-Mint-Presentation-Card-/162644688071?txnId=0

not a perfect coin 

but i think the seller thought it's a bullion (carded) 

will see what NCS and NGC think ?

[Sovereign]

3 minutes ago, shortstack68 said:

It does say bullion on the card and not proof, it does look a bullion strike

Some 2002 bullion have some frost on the shield 

 

If there is a frost on the queens side it's %100 proof 

[Augustus1]

11 minutes ago, Sovereign said:

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Full-2002-Gold-Sovereign-In-Original-Royal-Mint-Presentation-Card-/162644688071?txnId=0

not a perfect coin 

but i think the seller thought it's a bullion (carded) 

will see what NCS and NGC think ?

there are quite a few or this similar sov  carded coin, are they worth a punt  similar/ lower bid  prices too at the moment, so the coin needs to be frosted

dean.m

[Sovereign]

11 minutes ago, Augustus1 said:

there are quite a few or this similar sov  carded coin, are they worth a punt  similar/ lower bid  prices too at the moment, so the coin needs to be frosted

dean.m

Here is an example ,, not proof  

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/2002-Full-Gold-Sovereign-in-Original-Royal-Mint-Presentation-pack-/132313519869?hash=item1ece8016fd%3Ag%3AELwAAOSwOzxZp-Gr&_trkparms=pageci%3A6a6e82f1-9222-11e7-a2d0-74dbd180780a%7Cparentrq%3A5184e30b15e0aca469e13b8afff92e66%7Ciid%3A7

 

[Augustus1]

4 minutes ago, Sovereign said:

Here is an example ,, not proof  

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/2002-Full-Gold-Sovereign-in-Original-Royal-Mint-Presentation-pack-/132313519869?hash=item1ece8016fd%3Ag%3AELwAAOSwOzxZp-Gr&_trkparms=pageci%3A6a6e82f1-9222-11e7-a2d0-74dbd180780a%7Cparentrq%3A5184e30b15e0aca469e13b8afff92e66%7Ciid%3A7

 

I see thanks, so this one in not proof either, its just knowing what to look for .

dean.m

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2002-Full-Gold-Sovereign-With-Original-Royal-Mint-Presentation-Card/263156929656?_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D45992%26meid%3Dc5c2181455df4bf2a9e041a170e761f3%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D132313519869&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982

Edited September 5, 2017 by Augustus1

[Sovereign]

Just now, Augustus1 said:

I see thanks, so this one in not proof either

If you want a proof buy boxed with coa 

this a gamble i'm taking  

[Augustus1]

ta , I have them, I like a punt too now and then  

dean.m

Edited September 5, 2017 by Augustus1

[augur]

17 hours ago, augur said:

Does anyone more savy in sovreigns know if the breast plate, face and flank of the horse are prone to wear since the table is almost perfect? 

[Ansel]

A rather lovely birthday present arrived in perfect time this morning. The BP on the reverse is much smaller than the ones I have on my other G&D sovereigns (1905 onwards). Is this normal for a Victoria YH G&D?

[sovereignsteve]

2 hours ago, Sovereign said:

2002 full proof sov ,, was advertised on ebay and sold as a bullion  somone must seen this?!

I've picked up a fair few loose proofs on ebay that were sold as just sovereigns.

This one does look like a proof but not totally convincing, maybe it's an early RM BU strike similar to the recent offerings?

I have had a few bully 2002 sovs in cards like this one and they have all been full on business strikes; no question. This one could be a mistake at the mint or is there a chance it has been replaced in the card? I would expect NGC to grade it as a PR

[sovereignsteve]

1 hour ago, augur said:

Does anyone more savy in sovreigns know if the breast plate, face and flank of the horse are prone to wear since the table is almost perfect?

The first wear on the horse appears around the eyes and ears, the right shoulder and the bridle/neck area.

[sovereignsteve]

36 minutes ago, Ansel said:

The BP on the reverse is much smaller than the ones I have on my other G&D sovereigns (1905 onwards). Is this normal for a Victoria YH G&D?

Almost all YH G&D sovs that have a BP are of the small variety, very few varieties have a large BP. There are quite a few without.

[Augustus1]

just arrived, small pick up from evil bay no idea if its a collectable  , my 2 nd slab coin, my have paid too much but its not a short term investment , just for me to own for a short time

dean.m

[Ansel]

5 minutes ago, sovereignsteve said:

Almost all YH G&D sovs that have a BP are of the small variety, very few varieties have a large BP. There are quite a few without.

Thank you. I'm really looking forward to my Marsh Sovereign book arriving so I can learn a lot more about all these little variations. 

[Jester]

33 minutes ago, Ansel said:

Thank you. I'm really looking forward to my Marsh Sovereign book arriving so I can learn a lot more about all these little variations. 

Ditto...except mine had to travel across the pond 

[Jester]

My last Libertad of 2017...the elusive 1/20 oz Gold Proof Libertad.  Off to NGC she goes tomorrow!

[Goldfinga]

25 minutes ago, Jester said:

My last Libertad of 2017...the elusive 1/20 oz Gold Proof Libertad.  Off to NGC she goes tomorrow!

Very nice@Jester ..iv'e been looking at these for a while. Well since i started buying gold sovereigns a couple of months back, but i'm struggling

to make a decision on which ones to go for. Any views or advice on the better ones to go for? I caught one of numistacker's  videos regarding the bu versions,

the 2017 1/4oz gold and 2017 1/10oz gold, so i'm sort of looking out for those two, mainly because of the low mintage figures. And where would be the cheapest place to order 

them from? Again i singled out a couple of sellers..namely silberstresor and munzdachs..they seem to have the best price on them overall. Am i on the right track?

And my apologies if i'm on the wrong topic/thread. 

[Jester]

@Goldfinga, if @muenzdachs has what you're looking for, I can't recommend them highly enough.  The client service and pricing (even with me being across the pond) is top notch.  I don't think you can go wrong picking either of the two you mentioned (the 1/4 oz or 1/10 oz BU).  Good luck with the search and let us know what you pick up!