Chorlton

Great...Sometimes have wondered why I don’t just have my paycheck direct deposited to The Royal Mint...

Just received the dispatch confirmation EMail so not long now 😀

Just received the dispatch confirmation EMail so not long now 😀

Just received the dispatch confirmation EMail so not long now 😀

Just had confirmation from Token Publishing that they have sent my copy of the latest Marsh!

Just received the dispatch confirmation EMail so not long now 😀

If anyone has ordered the latest book and is wondering where it is, I phoned Token Publishing this afternoon and they are being dispatched late next week.
They've had an issue with their printing company letting them down which they've now resolved.
Not long to wait.  

Please keep this topic to discussing GBP £ Gold Price movements.

For other topics, or more in-depth discussions about different topics, it may be best to start a new separate topic  

Thanks for that.
I, and probably most of the other contributors, would have been interested in more feedback, such as how much, who, and where.
There are many out there getting away with selling fakes. Spreading awareness is a good defence against it.

My first thought was to check it was not a gold plated crown, which it appears not to be.
The next thought was "more info please". When you are looking to get help and advice like this, the more information you provide, the easier it is for people to help you, and the better the advice you will get, so:
Is it on ebay?, somewhere else online, jeweller, pawnbroker, coin dealer, neighbour, or man in a pub? If it is on ebay or online, include a link.
Has the seller stated how much he hopes to get?
Has he told you it's genuine? How does he know? Has he shown you any provenance?
@Stuntman has already advised about knowing something about the seller.
Most members have correctly suspected it may be fake, and the apparent double striking is a big clue and a bad sign.
All the above takes precedence over any or what value.
Assuming it is fake, are you still interested in buying it?
Will it be the correct weight (has the owner told you its weight), what about the gold content, if any?
I had a quick look on ebay to see if I recognised your photos, and found a much better looking "replica" https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1893-retro-5-Five-Pound-piece-Souvenir-Gap-Filler-Exact-same-size-as-original/283919820049?hash=item421af0a511:g:IT4AAOSwdQhf3Xl6 1893 retro £5 Five Pound piece. Souvenir Gap-Filler. Exact same size as original
Almost accurately described, priced at £7.25
@goldhunter and others are probably correct in suspecting it is fake.
 

The new edition is available or pre order now with free delivery if ordered before 10th April.
Link below if anyone wants to order:
https://www.tokenpublishing.com/shop/product/8058

Just got these two bad boys back from grading 🤩
 

Recieved this beautiful Veinte Pesos from the legend that is  @Jamesd.
The top man even chucked in a little silver lib as a present.
Thanks again mate love the coins 😍

A lovely piece from @StBeesSilver this is part of a bundle I will be auctioning off later in the month for charity 
The silver piece is a recreation of the MS butterfly.
As some of u know from last year my wife has MS so I wanted to do a charity auction for the uk MS society. 100% of the auction winnings will be going to charity.
Whatch this space for the auction 
And thanks @ChrisSilverfor supporting my auction 

My personal opinion is like it or loathe it, grading is the future for british numismatic coins. We are trailing the US market which is years ahead of us, yes its a bigger market but it doesn't have the depth of history and rarity present in British coinage where some of our coins trace their history back to the global dominating british empire and earlier, everyone knows what a sovereign is globally.
Not that long ago you required experience to establish the grade of a coin and so it’s value vs another coin. Coins were kept loose in beautiful cabinets and handled by experts. This limited the market to a small very small, niche group, numismatists and it controlled the price, arguably holding it back.
Grading rewrites the script. Graded coins can now be and are bought by institutions, big investors, banks, pension funds, etc who have absolutely no idea about what they are buying other than it is a global market that is proven and they can now buy from a menu, where the ‘stock’ has fundamentals that can be analysed so a known and understood entry & exit point can be planned. This I believe is why you see the gulf between a 69 and a 70. It has nothing to do with a tiny mark or hairline on the coin, but investors who have no interest in that side want the best of the best as its the most secure end of the market to diversify their portfolio into. 70’s / the highest possible grade is a market in itself.
this trend for 70’s / highest grade available screaming ahead has rippled and we see it in all types of coins and ranges, not that I think these big investors are buying much outside of rare high grade and desirable sovereigns and very special coins (unas, 3graces and the older patterns) but that doesn't matter, the trend and protocol is set and I think its here to stay and high grade rare and / or desirable ‘safe investment’ coins are on an exponential rise with a long way to go. To get a feel for where I think we are heading just watch the next platinum night at heritage and the US (and world coins, its not only the US) easily making high 5 figure and 6 figure sums. Coins that arent anywhere near as rare or as historically important as a lot of  british coins. But what they all have in common is they are all graded and can be ranked.
as our market grows, confidence builds and the highest grades become extremely expensive I think the lower grades will catch up and there will be a difference between them rather than the current attitude being if its not a 70 or maybe 69 its a failure (or whatever is the highest grade known for a given coin vs its lower graded equivalent)
There are plenty of other markets like this which allows for diverse and secure investment portfolios outside of the traditional stock market.
time will tell, but I think british coin collecting will be a very different place in 10years and high end coins in beautiful old mahogany cabinets will be a thing of the past, sadly.

The main benefit of grading is it keeps my sticky mitts off quality coins in good condition  😀
More seriously it confirms what a coin is and its condition but even then fake graded coins exist so still need to take reasonable precautions buying on the secondary market if not grading yourself.  This does depend on who is doing the grading as Chorlton’s grading gives all coins a PR70.

Thanks all for the updates.

Thanks all for the updates.

Thanks all for the updates.

In theory coins such as sovereigns are currency so would be fine. A case of watch and see.

Hi @Swampy I think that this is a product and amount of cash that has a limted loss.  My advice to you is the same as my advice to anyone - don't go near products like CFD's, Spread Bets, Options, unless you REALLY know what you are doing!

Got the coins today. Massive props to sharps Pixley! Ordered yesterday, got the coins today. 
I asked for a random sov, and a QE2 pre decimal sov. 
Got a 1980, and a 1965, both pretty much uncirculated. For £308, and £311.
They send them free too, special delivery. In slips, in a nice large velvet bag. 
Highly recommended. 

£1,200 assuming the pound doesn't collapse post Brexit.

That’s ridiculous. You can get them from Bairds for £310.00 and you don’t get a tonne of c**p through your letter box afterwards......
https://www.bairdmint.com/products/queen-elizabeth-ii-gold-sovereign--2021