Opinion wanted

[Thelonerangershorse]

Edited October 14, 2022 by Thelonerangershorse
never done a poll before

[stefffana]

Voted!

If you really want it now, go to the dealer A.😊

[Stuntman]

I voted Dealer A.

[James32]

Dealer A, no point on waiting for an unsure amount of time.

I'm currently waiting on a 1oz yale since mid September and i feel like cancelling at this stage. 

[harrygill111]

C If its going to go into storage anyway, whats the rush. 

£15 spare, that works out to a week of top end free lunches at my place of work (very subsidised). 

Edited October 14, 2022 by harrygill111

[chrisdobb]

25 minutes ago, harrygill111 said:

C If its going to go into storage anyway, whats the rush. 

£15 spare, that works out to a week of top end free lunches at my place of work (very subsidised). 

You must work in the House of Commons.

[Essendie]

For me, it would depend on the dealer.

If you trust C to actually deliver the coin, I'd pick C.

If C was the sucky Royal Mint or other untrustworthy source, (who made me wait forever for my sons 1/10th gold Royal Arms coin, then sent me an email yesterday to say, "We don't have any & can't honour your PAID FOR ages ago order, so we'll send you a 2023 1/10th Britannia for the same price instead"), go with A.

[James32]

Pmd a link for £1568 booom.

No excuses get er bought lol.

[harrygill111]

18 minutes ago, chrisdobb said:

You must work in the House of Commons.

Media Company... cheap/free food a ploy to keep you working after hours. 

Dont want to be anyware near the Commons right now! 

Edited October 14, 2022 by harrygill111

[Gruff]

3 hours ago, harrygill111 said:

Media Company... cheap/free food a ploy to keep you working after hours. 

Dont want to be anyware near the Commons right now! 

You work for the BBC?

[harrygill111]

1 hour ago, Gruff said:

You work for the BBC?

... do you work for the police? 

[Gruff]

15 minutes ago, harrygill111 said:

... do you work for the police? 

Nope, but thinking of subsidized food can only be a big behemoth surely?

[SidS]

Dealer B

Buy high, sell low.

[LawrenceChard]

8 hours ago, Thelonerangershorse said:

Decisions, Decisions  

 20 members have voted

1. 1. The question is , a 1oz Gold 2023 QE2 britt from 3 well known dealers

   • Dealer A : In stock, £1578, free delivery
   • Dealer B : In stock. £1614, free delivery
   • Dealer C : indefinate delay, £1556, £7 delivery

It sounds to me like you used the actual initials of the dealers involved.

I wouldn't trust either of the first two, as there is not such thing as "free delivery", although people believe it because it is what they want to hear.

Personally I would go for the third one, partly because I believe in value, partly because I value honesty and transparency.

If it's any help, I can tell you the reason that @ChardsCoinandBullionDealer didn't get their delivery earlier this week is mainly because Brinks didn't have a big enough truck available. Too late, we realised we should have asked them to bring as much as they could, and collect the rest with next week's delivery.

😎

[SiCole]

I would and have gone with Chards which is your C option. End of the day a week or two delay is nothing for something that will sit in a secure place when you have it anyway.

[RoughDog]

Wait for lower price, indefinitely.  🤣😌

[Guest]

Why not just name the dealers? 

[Guest]

A seems like a good choice to me. 

Edited October 14, 2022 by Apmex100

[LawrenceChard]

12 hours ago, Thelonerangershorse said:

Opinion wanted

 

Decisions, Decisions  

 31 members have voted

1. 1. The question is , a 1oz Gold 2023 QE2 britt from 3 well known dealers

   • Dealer A : In stock, £1578, free delivery
   • Dealer B : In stock. £1614, free delivery
   • Dealer C : indefinate delay, £1556, £7 delivery

12 hours ago, stefffana said:

Voted!

If you really want it now, go to the dealer A.😊

12 hours ago, Stuntman said:

I voted Dealer A.

12 hours ago, James32 said:

Dealer A, no point on waiting for an unsure amount of time.

I'm currently waiting on a 1oz yale since mid September and i feel like cancelling at this stage. 

11 hours ago, harrygill111 said:

C If its going to go into storage anyway, whats the rush. 

£15 spare, that works out to a week of top end free lunches at my place of work (very subsidised). 

11 hours ago, chrisdobb said:

You must work in the House of Commons.

11 hours ago, Essendie said:

For me, it would depend on the dealer.

If you trust C to actually deliver the coin, I'd pick C.

If C was the sucky Royal Mint or other untrustworthy source, (who made me wait forever for my sons 1/10th gold Royal Arms coin, then sent me an email yesterday to say, "We don't have any & can't honour your PAID FOR ages ago order, so we'll send you a 2023 1/10th Britannia for the same price instead"), go with A.

7 hours ago, Gruff said:

You work for the BBC?

4 hours ago, SidS said:

Dealer B

Buy high, sell low.

4 hours ago, LawrenceChard said:

It sounds to me like you used the actual initials of the dealers involved.

I wouldn't trust either of the first two, as there is not such thing as "free delivery", although people believe it because it is what they want to hear.

Personally I would go for the third one, partly because I believe in value, partly because I value honesty and transparency.

If it's any help, I can tell you the reason that @ChardsCoinandBullionDealer didn't get their delivery earlier this week is mainly because Brinks didn't have a big enough truck available. Too late, we realised we should have asked them to bring as much as they could, and collect the rest with next week's delivery.

😎

4 hours ago, SiCole said:

I would and have gone with Chards which is your C option. End of the day a week or two delay is nothing for something that will sit in a secure place when you have it anyway.

2 hours ago, RoughDog said:

Wait for lower price, indefinitely.  🤣😌

I think the OP missed out a major dealer, and some other important stuff, so I compiled a quick spreadsheet, including dealer "R":

Qty	A	B	C	C Qty	C Post	C Inc	R	A Extra	A Qty	A Qty Extra	B Extra	R Extra
1	1,569.47	1,606.00	1,548.12	1,548.12	7.00	1,555.12	1,620.61	21.35	1,569.47	14.35	57.88	72.49
2	1,568.41	1,605.00	1,548.12	3,096.24	8.00	3,104.24	1,618.84	20.29	3,136.82	32.58	56.88	70.72
5	1,566.31	1,602.00	1,542.30	7,711.50	11.00	7,722.50	1,615.60	24.01	7,831.55	109.05	59.70	73.30
10	1,561.46	1,600.00	1,541.50	15,415.00	16.00	15,431.00	1,612.21	19.96	15,614.60	183.60	58.50	70.71
20	1,560.50	1,597.00	1,540.03	30,800.60	26.00	30,826.60	1,608.82	20.47	31,210.00	383.40	56.97	68.79
50	1,557.68	1,594.00	1,539.30	76,965.00	62.00	77,027.00	1,605.43	18.38	77,884.00	857.00	54.70	66.13
100	1,552.14	1,592.00	1,537.83	153,783.00	128.60	153,911.60	1,601.31	14.31	155,214.00	1,302.40	54.17	63.48
200	1,552.14	1,592.00	1,537.09	307,418.00	230.60	307,648.60	1,601.31	15.05	310,428.00	2,779.40	54.91	64.22
250	1,550.10	1,591.00	1,537.09	384,272.50	283.00	384,555.50	1,601.31	13.01	387,525.00	2,969.50	53.91	64.22
500		1,590.00	1,537.09	768,545.00	554.00	769,099.00	1,601.31				52.91	64.22
1000		1,588.00	1,537.09	1,537,090.00	1,107.00	1,538,197.00	1,601.31				50.91	64.22

As you will probably guess that "R" is the Royal Mint, I will not the column "R" is their price per coin for the quantities shown in column "Qty". It does not include postage as to discover this, you need to "Activate You Account", which I didn't do.

I think we can ignore dealer "B", although if you want to know how much more it will cost to buy from "B" instead of "C", then just look at column "B Extra", which is the extra cost per coin, after allowing for postage.

So that leaves the question of how much extra it costs to buy from "A" compared with "C":

The column "A Extra" is the extra cost per coin, but without adjusting for C's postage, however I have worked this out and included in column "A Qty Extra", although this is now for the total cost, not the cost per coin. 

I happen to think the total cost is important.

Now, I think I should ask not who would prefer to save £14, but who would prefer to save £1300?

I can understand that for only £14, it doesn't really matter very much, so it is not surprising that about 2/3 voted for "A".

Perhaps the members who voted "C" have more money to invest. I wonder why?

Now another question:

Who would like a free 2023 One Ounce Gold Britannia?

It's easy.

Simply buy 120 from "C", and get one extra free compared with buying from "A".

Disclaimer: While preparing my comparisons manually, the spot gold price wobbled by about £1, so some of the single piece prices may be in error by approximately £1.

Now for an apology:

I am sorry that @ChardsCoinandBullionDealer failed to get their first delivery this week. If I had not been playing about on TSF on Monday, they might have been here before now, which would have saved everyone from having to make a tough choice.

Sorry!

😎

[stefffana]

8 minutes ago, LawrenceChard said:

I think the OP missed out a major dealer, and some other important stuff, so I compiled a quick spreadsheet, including dealer "R":

Qty	A	B	C	C Qty	C Post	C Inc	R	A Extra	A Qty	A Qty Extra	B Extra	R Extra
1	1,569.47	1,606.00	1,548.12	1,548.12	7.00	1,555.12	1,620.61	21.35	1,569.47	14.35	57.88	72.49
2	1,568.41	1,605.00	1,548.12	3,096.24	8.00	3,104.24	1,618.84	20.29	3,136.82	32.58	56.88	70.72
5	1,566.31	1,602.00	1,542.30	7,711.50	11.00	7,722.50	1,615.60	24.01	7,831.55	109.05	59.70	73.30
10	1,561.46	1,600.00	1,541.50	15,415.00	16.00	15,431.00	1,612.21	19.96	15,614.60	183.60	58.50	70.71
20	1,560.50	1,597.00	1,540.03	30,800.60	26.00	30,826.60	1,608.82	20.47	31,210.00	383.40	56.97	68.79
50	1,557.68	1,594.00	1,539.30	76,965.00	62.00	77,027.00	1,605.43	18.38	77,884.00	857.00	54.70	66.13
100	1,552.14	1,592.00	1,537.83	153,783.00	128.60	153,911.60	1,601.31	14.31	155,214.00	1,302.40	54.17	63.48
200	1,552.14	1,592.00	1,537.09	307,418.00	230.60	307,648.60	1,601.31	15.05	310,428.00	2,779.40	54.91	64.22
250	1,550.10	1,591.00	1,537.09	384,272.50	283.00	384,555.50	1,601.31	13.01	387,525.00	2,969.50	53.91	64.22
500		1,590.00	1,537.09	768,545.00	554.00	769,099.00	1,601.31				52.91	64.22
1000		1,588.00	1,537.09	1,537,090.00	1,107.00	1,538,197.00	1,601.31				50.91	64.22

As you will probably guess that "R" is the Royal Mint, I will not the column "R" is their price per coin for the quantities shown in column "Qty". It does not include postage as to discover this, you need to "Activate You Account", which I didn't do.

I think we can ignore dealer "B", although if you want to know how much more it will cost to buy from "B" instead of "C", then just look at column "B Extra", which is the extra cost per coin, after allowing for postage.

So that leaves the question of how much extra it costs to buy from "A" compared with "C":

The column "A Extra" is the extra cost per coin, but without adjusting for C's postage, however I have worked this out and included in column "A Qty Extra", although this is now for the total cost, not the cost per coin. 

I happen to think the total cost is important.

Now, I think I should ask not who would prefer to save £14, but who would prefer to save £1300?

I can understand that for only £14, it doesn't really matter very much, so it is not surprising that about 2/3 voted for "A".

Perhaps the members who voted "C" have more money to invest. I wonder why?

Now another question:

Who would like a free 2023 One Ounce Gold Britannia?

It's easy.

Simply buy 120 from "C", and get one extra free compared with buying from "A".

Disclaimer: While preparing my comparisons manually, the spot gold price wobbled by about £1, so some of the single piece prices may be in error by approximately £1.

Now for an apology:

I am sorry that @ChardsCoinandBullionDealer failed to get their first delivery this week. If I had not been playing about on TSF on Monday, they might have been here before now, which would have saved everyone from having to make a tough choice.

Sorry!

😎

Yes, I can see and understand your point of view.

Giving us examples about how to save £1300 if you are buying in one go 120oz gold from your company probably will not help more than 0.01% from us.

Not because we are morons or we can not count correctly our money and budgeting our incomes.

Because mostly all of our budgets are very tight, when we have a spare cash to buy one ounce gold we want it now, not later.

You are talking about saving £1300 buying wise 120oz of gold. Believe me, if I would have available £184,539.60, I would buy a house, to give me a monthly return of £1300.

But buying 1oz with £14 over the best waiting competitor will not make any difference in my budget. I am buying now, today, at a known spot, will arrive tomorrow at the approximately the same spot price and I will enjoy my purchase. Buying today and waiting an undefined time, will make me nervous, knowing that I have not any control about my purchase.

Try, please to think also from another perspective.

Many thanks and kindest regards,

Stefan.

 

[James32]

@stefffana has just been removed from @LawrenceChard's will 😆 

[LawrenceChard]

8 minutes ago, stefffana said:

Yes, I can see and understand your point of view.

Giving us examples about how to save £1300 if you are buying in one go 120oz gold from your company probably will not help more than 0.01% from us.

Not because we are morons or we can not count correctly our money and budgeting our incomes.

Because mostly all of our budgets are very tight, when we have a spare cash to buy one ounce gold we want it now, not later.

You are talking about saving £1300 buying wise 120oz of gold. Believe me, if I would have available £184,539.60, I would buy a house, to give me a monthly return of £1300.

But buying 1oz with £14 over the best waiting competitor will not make any difference in my budget. I am buying now, today, at a known spot, will arrive tomorrow at the approximately the same spot price and I will enjoy my purchase. Buying today and waiting an undefined time, will make me nervous, knowing that I have not any control about my purchase.

Try, please to think also from another perspective.

Many thanks and kindest regards,

Stefan.

I did think from "another perspective":

"I can understand that for only £14, it doesn't really matter very much, so it is not surprising that about 2/3 voted for "A"."

But, if you noticed, I added:

"Perhaps the members who voted "C" have more money to invest. I wonder why?"

I think it's because they have spent most of their lives ensuring they got the best value, and that's why they can afford to buy 100, 120, 250, etc. ounces at a time

There could be a moral to this story.

Buy from "C" instead of "A", and before long, you too will be getting a free one ounce gold coin almost every time you make a purchase!

😎

[James32]

1 minute ago, LawrenceChard said:

I did think from "another perspective":

"I can understand that for only £14, it doesn't really matter very much, so it is not surprising that about 2/3 voted for "A"."

But, if you noticed, I added:

"Perhaps the members who voted "C" have more money to invest. I wonder why?"

I think it's because they have spent most of their lives ensuring they got the best value, and that's why they can afford to buy 100, 120, 250, etc. ounces at a time

There could be a moral to this story.

Buy from "C" instead of "A", and before long, you too will be getting a free one ounce gold coin almost every time you make a purchase!

😎

This could be the beginning of a new story...

Is it ever truly free? And if I did make such a purchase, would the postage be.... never mind!!

[LawrenceChard]

3 minutes ago, James32 said:

This could be the beginning of a new story...

Is it ever truly free? And if I did make such a purchase, would the postage be.... never mind!!

If you were in the west of Lancashire, you could just pop in and save yet another £150, because that would be "post free"!

😎

[LawrenceChard]

32 minutes ago, Apmex100 said:

Why not just name the dealers? 

That's my usual question, but I think everyone here has already guessed:

A = Atkinsons

B = Bullion By Post

C = Chards

😎

1 hour ago, Apmex100 said:

A seems like a good choice to me. 

What does?

😎