Storing sovereigns

[Charliemouse]

Advice needed.

Considering the dimensions of sovereigns have remained basically unchanged for a very long time, and they are so popular, finding capsules that fit them properly seems to be impossible.  I can get 22.5mm capsules all day long, but that is just big enough to rattle.  I need 22.05mm capsules.

I prefer to use exact-fit capsules - I don't need to stack them in standard tubes, I'm not that rich, so I'd rather have capsules that are just big enough to fit the coin.  

Apart from trying to source RM screw capsules, that are as rare as hen's teeth, and cost ridiculous amounts (£16 for a capsule is a joke), what do other people do?  Do you just accept the inevitable and use over-size capsules and foam rings, or let them rattle?

 

[flyingveepixie]

I bought some rattling capsules for half sovs on ebay last year - waste of money.

[Dakaras]

@Gordy

[paulmerton]

8 minutes ago, Charliemouse said:

(£16 for a capsule is a joke)

It's a pack of 20!

[Fadeingstar]

Do lighthouse not make 22mm capsules or would these be to tight?

Edited August 22, 2022 by Fadeingstar

[Goldfever20]

17 minutes ago, paulmerton said:

It's a pack of 20!

Even though they are unavailable, I have been waiting over 3 months for them now. I need only 10 if anyone would have some spare please let me know.

[Charliemouse]

18 minutes ago, paulmerton said:

It's a pack of 20!

The one I saw said nothing about 20.  It strongly implied it was a single capsule.

If you could share a link for it, actually in stock, that would be very useful, thanks.

[Charliemouse]

16 minutes ago, Fadeingstar said:

Do lighthouse not make 22mm capsules or would these be to tight?

I tried a 22mm and it's too tight - probably work if I pushed hard enough.  Not going to do that.

[Charliemouse]

1 minute ago, Charliemouse said:

The one I saw said nothing about 20.  It strongly implied it was a single capsule.

If you could share a link for it, actually in stock, that would be very useful, thanks.

 

2 minutes ago, Goldfever20 said:

Even though they are unavailable, I have been waiting over 3 months for them now. I need only 10 if anyone would have some spare please let me know.

Yeah, it wasn't the RM site I saw it - it was another site just gauging it as a second hand capsule.

[modofantasma]

Just throw em in sacks 

[Gordy]

1 hour ago, Dakaras said:

@Gordy

i only have 22 or 22.5... caps 👍

[Charliemouse]

Anyone have a contact in Lighthouse or Air-tite?  This has surely got to be a gap in the market.

[Foster88]

These are available on ebay, a bit on the larger side but they might be suitable for you?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/144393856280?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=XgjW185GQpm&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=gaK6KZN4T7e&var=443704781491&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[paulmerton]

Forget gold, turns out these were a better investment  

[GoldDiggerDave]

I prefer the airtight capsules as they don't rattle and slim compared to other caps. 

[DrDave]

https://www.thelondoncoincompany.com/store/22-05mm-Royal-Mint-Screw-Type-Coin-Capsule-Fits-Full-Sovereign-Gold-Coin-p161953037

Is this the one you saw?

Looks like its for one capsule. They big up the fact that RM haven't got any stock.

[paulmerton]

Just now, DrDave said:

https://www.thelondoncoincompany.com/store/22-05mm-Royal-Mint-Screw-Type-Coin-Capsule-Fits-Full-Sovereign-Gold-Coin-p161953037

Is this the one you saw?

Looks like its for one capsule. They big up the fact that RM haven't got any stock.

That's a different capsule, it's the OG screw type.

[Orpster]

I have a big bag of RM screw capsules in my accessories box I think, I don't use them as I like the airtite ringed capsules.

Would have to see how many I have but more than willing to part with them, wont even charge you £16 each either  

PM me if you want me to dig them out

[Scootermuppet]

One just simply has to store ones PM's in the Vault, dontcha know? 🧐

[Orpster]

These?

[Scootermuppet]

On a more serious note than my last post - I have been using Lighthouse 2 x 2 flips. Take up way less room than a coin in a capsule, and show of the coins quite nicely too - and they don't rattle!

[LawrenceChard]

5 hours ago, Charliemouse said:

Advice needed.

Considering the dimensions of sovereigns have remained basically unchanged for a very long time, and they are so popular, finding capsules that fit them properly seems to be impossible.  I can get 22.5mm capsules all day long, but that is just big enough to rattle.  I need 22.05mm capsules.

I prefer to use exact-fit capsules - I don't need to stack them in standard tubes, I'm not that rich, so I'd rather have capsules that are just big enough to fit the coin.  

Apart from trying to source RM screw capsules, that are as rare as hen's teeth, and cost ridiculous amounts (£16 for a capsule is a joke), what do other people do?  Do you just accept the inevitable and use over-size capsules and foam rings, or let them rattle?

 

Who charges £16 each for capsules?

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[Charliemouse]

3 hours ago, DrDave said:

https://www.thelondoncoincompany.com/store/22-05mm-Royal-Mint-Screw-Type-Coin-Capsule-Fits-Full-Sovereign-Gold-Coin-p161953037

Is this the one you saw?

Looks like its for one capsule. They big up the fact that RM haven't got any stock.

Yes, that's the one I saw and mentioned in the OP.  Ridiculous.

The RM site has sets for of 20, except as mentioned, they are never in stock.

1 hour ago, LawrenceChard said:

Who charges £16 each for capsules?

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See above.

[Charliemouse]

7 hours ago, Foster88 said:

These are available on ebay, a bit on the larger side but they might be suitable for you?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/144393856280?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=XgjW185GQpm&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=gaK6KZN4T7e&var=443704781491&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

As I say, I'd prefer direct fit capsules, as I think they look better - you can see the sides of the coin.

But I will try the Air-tite foam ones, just to see.  The H series are slightly larger than they need to be.  They do a T series only slightly larger than a sovereign, i.e. has a very narrow foam ring.  0.05mm too small in foam will be a lot more forgiving that 0.05mm in plastic.

Edited August 22, 2022 by Charliemouse

[LawrenceChard]

1 hour ago, Charliemouse said:

Yes, that's the one I saw and mentioned in the OP.  Ridiculous.

The RM site has sets for of 20, except as mentioned, they are never in stock.

See above.

Thanks.

I found the RM page:

https://www.royalmint.com/our-coins/ranges/historic-coins/ancillaries/Coin-Capsule-22mm-Pack-of-10/

but they are not the screw top ones.

They are not unreasonable at £3.95 per pack of 10.

I also found the so-called London Coin Companies capsules page meanwhile.

What at total rip-off! And they are not £16 each, but £16.95 each!

It might be a mitigating factor of this included free postage, but they also indicate £3.99 postage.

22.05mm Royal Mint Screw Type Coin Capsule Fits Full Sovereign Gold Coin

 

Qty: 1

£16.95

Subtotal	£16.95
Estimated shipping	£3.99
TOTAL	£20.94

LCC is owned by Ingram Liberman, who only ever seems to sell anything which is a rip-off price.

At least he has stopped using our copyright images, since:

https://24carat.co.uk/frame.php?url=ingramliberman.html

When I met him, he was totally unapologetic, and said everybody does it.

I do not have a high opinion of him, as you might guess!

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