How will silver help against CBDC’s

[Bigmarc]

1 hour ago, PhilOdgny said:

This is not quite true as there are peer to peer ways to buy crypto. e.g. https://bisq.network/ or simply a bloke in the pub.

Come to think of it ... perhaps such peer to peer crypto deals could happen on here if the forum owner wished to allow them.

There used to be bitcoin ATMs but they got banned by the FCA ... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-60709209

I stand corrected. Looks interesting thanks for the link. 

I can't believe the hoops Ive had to jump through so far when I could have just bought some with a Amazon gift card. 

I need to look further into it but does look promising. 

[LemmyMcGregor]

2 hours ago, Petra said:

Must admit, when I lived for a while just outside Oxford, what I couldn’t believe when I went into town was the unbelievable amount of buses rather than cars.🤔

They are creating a Zero Emission Zone in the town centre because of emission over the "limits", an area where private cars are already banned from the town centre and there are only buses 🤣

The amout of traffic created by the sheer amount of empty buses is insane.

Edited December 8, 2022 by LemmyMcGregor

[EdwardTeach]

18 hours ago, Dankanugget said:

On a similar front Oxford council is splitting up the centre into 15 minute neighbourhoods. Residents can get a permit to enter the other sectors for up to 100 days a year. Limited movement through the back door ?

The  mark is becoming forever closer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WUf9sBq7uw

[LemmyMcGregor]

1 hour ago, EdwardTeach said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WUf9sBq7uw

And on the topic, just seen this on Twitter, following the protests against the council last weekend, there is now a dispersal order in Oxford to prevent further protests.

 

[HerefordBullyun]

3 minutes ago, LemmyMcGregor said:

And on the topic, just seen this on Twitter, following the protests against the council last weekend, there is now a dispersal order in Oxford to prevent further protests.

 

Know we know Kier starmers agenda for more local governance. That's what his new proposals are - I suspect this being a pilot scheme. Oxford currently is a Labour seat can you see the pattern here?

 

[LemmyMcGregor]

46 minutes ago, HerefordBullyun said:

Know we know Kier starmers agenda for more local governance. That's what his new proposals are - I suspect this being a pilot scheme. Oxford currently is a Labour seat can you see the pattern here?

 

They are in this together. Keep in mind that what they are doing locally is with the approval of the central government, as many of these schemes are financed by them.

The local governance is just a trick so that they can start passing them locally while the usual idiots think that it will never happen where they are, meanwhile it becomes the new norm and once they push it in their areas is nothing new and they will accept it as that is the way.

At the same time, goes hand in hand with what I repeat about forgetting MPs at present and taking over local councils to make a difference, takes 20,000 votes to be elected MP, takes 800 votes to become councillor. If people were to stop complaining that is useless and actually got elected, they could make big changes.

[Bigmarc]

35 minutes ago, LemmyMcGregor said:

They are in this together. Keep in mind that what they are doing locally is with the approval of the central government, as many of these schemes are financed by them.

The local governance is just a trick so that they can start passing them locally while the usual idiots think that it will never happen where they are, meanwhile it becomes the new norm and once they push it in their areas is nothing new and they will accept it as that is the way.

At the same time, goes hand in hand with what I repeat about forgetting MPs at present and taking over local councils to make a difference, takes 20,000 votes to be elected MP, takes 800 votes to become councillor. If people were to stop complaining that is useless and actually got elected, they could make big changes.

A lot of London boughs are similar, driving through Enfield is an absolute minefield, you get a fine for everything. My missus has to drive 200 meters into the (current) ulez zone for work. She works for local government and they get all ulez charges reimbursed just for travelling to work. Nobody has dropped their car or is sharing driving at her work and you are talking about 1000s of employees. I think it's situations like this that makes me very critical of councils, government's, votes and elections.

[LemmyMcGregor]

7 minutes ago, Bigmarc said:

A lot of London boughs are similar, driving through Enfield is an absolute minefield, you get a fine for everything. My missus has to drive 200 meters into the (current) ulez zone for work. She works for local government and they get all ulez charges reimbursed just for travelling to work. Nobody has dropped their car or is sharing driving at her work and you are talking about 1000s of employees. I think it's situations like this that makes me very critical of councils, government's, votes and elections.

Funny that, council employees immune to the rules pushed on us mere mortals, who would have guessed it?

By the way, same in Oxford, some folks have pointed out that they don't want us to drive, but the council is dead in the centre of Oxford with a massive car park for the councillors.

[gji25]

The only way cbdc,s will work is if they give them away for free lol

[honestinjun]

2 hours ago, LemmyMcGregor said:

They are in this together. Keep in mind that what they are doing locally is with the approval of the central government, as many of these schemes are financed by them.

The local governance is just a trick so that they can start passing them locally while the usual idiots think that it will never happen where they are, meanwhile it becomes the new norm and once they push it in their areas is nothing new and they will accept it as that is the way.

At the same time, goes hand in hand with what I repeat about forgetting MPs at present and taking over local councils to make a difference, takes 20,000 votes to be elected MP, takes 800 votes to become councillor. If people were to stop complaining that is useless and actually got elected, they could make big changes.

"Show me your Papers!"

[honestinjun]

On 08/12/2022 at 16:18, Dankanugget said:

On a similar front Oxford council is splitting up the centre into 15 minute neighbourhoods. Residents can get a permit to enter the other sectors for up to 100 days a year. Limited movement through the back door ?

The  mark is becoming forever closer.

The people of Oxfordshire are fools to accept such nonsense.  Or, perhaps they'll let the process start and then violently revolt ?

[HillWalkerDundee]

To a great extent I agree but I have PMs as a just in case and as an inheritance.

[Dankanugget]

I drive to Chingford in London and the road is right on the ulez boundary sign which has been there for over 2 years waiting As it where.

im not buying another car again.

I work for tfl and we don’t get any discount at all for ulez.

 

Edited December 9, 2022 by Dankanugget
Spellcheck

[LemmyMcGregor]

3 hours ago, honestinjun said:

The people of Oxfordshire are fools to accept such nonsense.  Or, perhaps they'll let the process start and then violently revolt ?

Most people don't believe that they can make a difference, so they never vote and allow the usual suspects to keep elected, then you have the ones that keep voting the party regardless, so they see the symbol and put a cross regardless of motivation, and let's not forget that when they go door to door they tell you to vote for them because the others are racists and they're the good guys, they don't tell you what they really plan on doing.

Last Summer we were at the pub and I've been called a conspiracy theorist because I was complaining about the above proposal, and the morons are very left and very loud about it, which means that they probably voted the same outfit blessedly ignoring what's going. It didn't matter that I stated that it was a widely known proposal, it didn't matter that I offered to show them the information on the Council website, I was a conspiracy theorist for daring to say that from this Winter we would have not been able to cross town because of the bus gates.

Useful idiots.

[Faiz]

On 23/03/2022 at 21:14, Organics said:

Hi 👋 Couldn’t agree more with everything you said about Crypto. I have been telling my friend that CBDC’s are all about a cashless society, where “they” can control every aspect of our lives. Well that’s the ultimate goal anyway. There’s no way they’re going to allow an “alternative”, and decentralised currency. It’s one of the reasons I got into stacking. A way of trying to stay out of the system 🙏🙏🙏

This is true, a fully digital currency can be better controlled by the masters. It is referred to as “programmable money”. Once a fully digital representation of your net worth becomes a reality, what is going to stop governments and central banks from combining it with carbon zero and all the others draconian measures that are in the pipeline, such as social scores. Combine that with 15 minute cities, and you have yourself a two tier society and pure living hell for those that are awake. My strategy is not to have all my liquid assets in one thing. Spread it about. Some silver, gold, crypto (bitcoin), valuables that can be bartered, food, etc. I don’t think cash will be taken entirely out of circulation. New cash issued may be tracked through some kind of chip system, so they will know where it is and who has it. The future is no looking good for those that have enjoyed their freedoms until now. Our kids may not care, but we sure do and will. Barter will always be a things, just be sure you have items of value that others may want. This whole thing has a whiff of “John Wick” about it. 

[SidS]

If they stop me buying coal, I'll have to do a Fred Dibnah and mine my own. Not sure the neighbours would like a pit headgear in the back garden though. 😁

[HerefordBullyun]

On 09/12/2022 at 13:39, LemmyMcGregor said:

They are in this together. Keep in mind that what they are doing locally is with the approval of the central government, as many of these schemes are financed by them.

The local governance is just a trick so that they can start passing them locally while the usual idiots think that it will never happen where they are, meanwhile it becomes the new norm and once they push it in their areas is nothing new and they will accept it as that is the way.

At the same time, goes hand in hand with what I repeat about forgetting MPs at present and taking over local councils to make a difference, takes 20,000 votes to be elected MP, takes 800 votes to become councillor. If people were to stop complaining that is useless and actually got elected, they could make big changes.

Its happening in Canterbury now taken from the Telegraph

A council’s plan to carve up a city into zones has been likened to postwar Berlin.

Residents and tourists in Canterbury will face fines for travelling across boundaries from one area to another under the proposal aimed at cutting congestion.

Anyone wishing to commute across the city will need to drive out of one neighbourhood onto a new ring road, before re-entering their chosen section, under the plans being put forward by Canterbury County Council bosses.

The council has said that the scheme will close "rat-runs" and ease traffic, but critics argue it will create segregation.

Short trips in cars are set to be banned in Canterbury in a bid to encourage walking, cycling and the use of public transport, while reducing vehicle gridlock and carbon emissions.

Jim Somerfield wrote on social media: "Great, so it'll be like Cold War Berlin but without the wall."

'Climate change lockdowns'

Nigel Farage accused the council of bringing about "climate change lockdowns".

He told KentOnline: "There's absolutely no justification for it because it will not make one iota of difference to the planet, with China last year building 80 new coal-fired power stations.

"It paints a grim picture of a dystopian future of people constantly under mass surveillance and restricted where they can go."

Asked whether the city would resemble postwar Berlin, Ben Fitter-Harding, the Conservative council leader, said: "I find it hard to reconcile that perception with the closing off of the rat-runs."

The proposals are in the council's draft local plan for 2045. 

Traffic would be monitored with automatic number plate recognition (ANPR) cameras, and councillors have insisted that people travelling for essential reasons would be able to cross the boundaries.

'This only affects private car travel'

Mr Fitter-Harding said: "A lot of people are asking how they are going to get the kids to school, or get to the GP surgery or the supermarket. This is a plan that will be 20 years in the delivering, and so much would have changed by then. We're building two new schools at the coast, so a lot of people will be travelling to different schools.

"This only affects private car travel. If you're only going two streets away you should be walking anyway, or taking public transport."

A similar plan is being drawn up by council chiefs in Oxford, where "traffic filters" will ban private vehicles from six areas of the city at set times of the day. The scheme will also use ANPR cameras to monitor traffic.

[Roy]

'They' implemented schemes like this in the Philippines.

Car registrations end with a number 1-9/0. On Monday, numbers 1 and 2 were prohibited from being on the road. On Tuesday, numbers 3 and 4...you follow.

You register/insure a car but can only use it 6 days a week.

During Covid, you were only allowed to visit the market one day a week.

Initially, the purchase of alcohol was banned, then relaxed to the hours of 11am-2pm. The queues outside the supermarkets at these times were unbelievable. What's the best way to spread disease? Close contact/queues!

It was 'the closest thing to crazy' that i've ever been.

I don't live in the Philippines anymore.

😊

[SidS]

4 hours ago, HerefordBullyun said:

Its happening in Canterbury now taken from the Telegraph

A council’s plan to carve up a city into zones has been likened to postwar Berlin.

Residents and tourists in Canterbury will face fines for travelling across boundaries from one area to another under the proposal aimed at cutting congestion.

Anyone wishing to commute across the city will need to drive out of one neighbourhood onto a new ring road, before re-entering their chosen section, under the plans being put forward by Canterbury County Council bosses.

The council has said that the scheme will close "rat-runs" and ease traffic, but critics argue it will create segregation.

Short trips in cars are set to be banned in Canterbury in a bid to encourage walking, cycling and the use of public transport, while reducing vehicle gridlock and carbon emissions.

Jim Somerfield wrote on social media: "Great, so it'll be like Cold War Berlin but without the wall."

'Climate change lockdowns'

Nigel Farage accused the council of bringing about "climate change lockdowns".

He told KentOnline: "There's absolutely no justification for it because it will not make one iota of difference to the planet, with China last year building 80 new coal-fired power stations.

"It paints a grim picture of a dystopian future of people constantly under mass surveillance and restricted where they can go."

Asked whether the city would resemble postwar Berlin, Ben Fitter-Harding, the Conservative council leader, said: "I find it hard to reconcile that perception with the closing off of the rat-runs."

The proposals are in the council's draft local plan for 2045. 

Traffic would be monitored with automatic number plate recognition (ANPR) cameras, and councillors have insisted that people travelling for essential reasons would be able to cross the boundaries.

'This only affects private car travel'

Mr Fitter-Harding said: "A lot of people are asking how they are going to get the kids to school, or get to the GP surgery or the supermarket. This is a plan that will be 20 years in the delivering, and so much would have changed by then. We're building two new schools at the coast, so a lot of people will be travelling to different schools.

"This only affects private car travel. If you're only going two streets away you should be walking anyway, or taking public transport."

A similar plan is being drawn up by council chiefs in Oxford, where "traffic filters" will ban private vehicles from six areas of the city at set times of the day. The scheme will also use ANPR cameras to monitor traffic.

I knew my eyesight was bad, but still...

[GoldDiggerDave]

15 minute cities are sold to save the planet, they are a sick way to control the masses impose more controls and deny them of basic services.   Once we all have been nailed for high energy bills and 3.8 million more mortgage payers are breaking their backs  to get into debt every month it really won't take much for a massive push back.  The ruling class know the biggest fear is trying to control a population who have nothing left  to lose.    If enough people are pushed into poverty and we have a hot summer I can see rioting in some inner city areas. 

 

[honestinjun]

The people of this country did nothing when the government mandated masks and lockdowns. What exactly are the same people going to do when the government says we are going digital, turn in your cash for the CBDC because next month it will be worthless? People are going to comply like sheep.

 

 

 

[bluemoon]

On 10/11/2022 at 14:19, LemmyMcGregor said:

If only there was a practical way to carry your silver with you in handy pocket denominations...

 

Indeed, but it is the governments who pulled those from circulation. Raw silver as an alternative currency accepted by merchants would take the power away from CBDC, to bring it back to the thread title.

I doubt Tesco will take silver any time soon, but community currencies can work if there is a) organisation and b) a will to do it.

The Lewes Pound is one example but so far all these community currencies have been backed up by a sterling bank account! Assuring for the normies I suppose. The difference would be to make clear that a 1g bar of silver as payment is backed up by itself.

[LemmyMcGregor]

4 hours ago, Roy said:

'They' implemented schemes like this in the Philippines.

Car registrations end with a number 1-9/0. On Monday, numbers 1 and 2 were prohibited from being on the road. On Tuesday, numbers 3 and 4...you follow.

You register/insure a car but can only use it 6 days a week.

During Covid, you were only allowed to visit the market one day a week.

Initially, the purchase of alcohol was banned, then relaxed to the hours of 11am-2pm. The queues outside the supermarkets at these times were unbelievable. What's the best way to spread disease? Close contact/queues!

It was 'the closest thing to crazy' that i've ever been.

I don't live in the Philippines anymore.

😊

Same in Italy, I grew up with these retarded rules in Florence, they did it for a few years, one day was for plates ending in an even number and the following days for odds, who could afford it simply bought another car, which goes to show that, as usual, these measures hurt only the poorer, as who has the cash can pay his way out of it.

[flyingveepixie]

32 minutes ago, honestinjun said:

The people of this country did nothing when the government mandated masks and lockdowns. What exactly are the same people going to do when the government says we are going digital, turn in your cash for the CBDC because next month it will be worthless? People are going to comply like sheep.

 

 

 

I'd give you 10 likes for that if I could but I can't so I'll requote it instead.  Well said mate and I couldn't agree more.  All this bluster and sabre rattling and stuff is fine but at the end of the day it wont make any difference as there are simply too few who would be prepared to act in some way, and those are uncoordinated, untrained, unled, unarmed,  and have no chain of command or comms apart from the internet which is a whole load of censored bollocks.  The "they" will get away with it whatever they do as always

Edited December 11, 2022 by flyingveepixie

[Bigmarc]

Not sure how true this is