2020 Una and the Lion

[Oldun]

This series would appear to be a guaranteed money maker (it already is for those with the first coin at issue price, even if the others are bad and only sell for melt !)  and only 225 gold complete sets are even possible.......the buying frenzy between dealers, chancers, flippers and collectors is going to be insane. 
 

What are the odds the RM and/or dealers jack the prices up right from the get go ?
I have my popcorn ready. 

Edited January 23, 2020 by Oldun

[sovereignsteve]

coin cabinet auction currently on £18k

 

[Paul]

looks like our shaolinstacker has listed their Gold Una & Lion up in USA, as he said he may 

$39,999 USD  / £30,439 GBP

item number #202885622616

Will be inetresting if it sells stateside, if the appeal is there for it 

[Frenchie]

20 hours ago, Paul said:

looks like our shaolinstacker has listed their Gold Una & Lion up in USA, as he said he may 

$39,999 USD  / £30,439 GBP

item number #202885622616

Will be inetresting if it sells stateside, if the appeal is there for it 

It seems already sold...in one day  😲 , it would be interesting to have @ShaolinStacker 's feedback. What surprises me is how fast the market absorbs these sales, and the still growing prices. Where is the equilibrium ?

Congratulations to @ShaolinStacker

Edited January 24, 2020 by Frenchie

[Frenchie]

The silver Una seems also to have a good momentum with steadily growing prices (500 to 700€) 

[Paul]

3 minutes ago, Frenchie said:

It seems already sold...in one day  😲 , it would be interesting to have @ShaolinStacker 's feedback. What surprises me is how fast the market absorbs these sales, and the still growing prices. Where is the equilibrium ?

Congratulations to @ShaolinStacker

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=202885622616&_sacat=0&rt=nc&LH_Complete=1

Looks like it has sold via "best offer " as the price has the strike through line through it.  That a speedy sale for sure in USA, less than 24 hours it was up for 

The one listed on ebay at £30k has not shifted as yet from the osbourne ID seller 

[Paul]

Will be interested to know if it was a private collector or dealer/trade bought it

Dealer/trade = more positive brownie points to keep hold.  Either more profits to be had or potential down the road for further appreciation

[Frenchie]

Definitely. The one million $ question is about the proportion of these 225 already in strong hands

Edited January 24, 2020 by Frenchie

[Paul]

Just now, Frenchie said:

Definitely. The one million question is about the proportion of these 225 already in strong hands

mines in strong hands if the price keeps rising lol ! 

from £4k to £30k and eBay is still not flooded with folk looking to flip/profit/undercut each other to drive price down

[ShaolinStacker]

24 minutes ago, Frenchie said:

It seems already sold...in one day  😲 , it would be interesting to have @ShaolinStacker 's feedback. What surprises me is how fast the market absorbs these sales, and the still growing prices. Where is the equilibrium ?

Congratulations to @ShaolinStacker

Thanks! Accepted first offer of $30,000 + Shipping. Still haven't received payment. Buyer has been in communication. Will have another 24 hours to pay. After that will have to cancel 

[Paul]

Just now, ShaolinStacker said:

Thanks! Accepted first offer of $30,000 + Shipping. Still haven't received payment. Buyer has been in communication. Will have another 24 hours to pay. After that will have to cancel 

Well Done on the sale !!!   I think i should get 10% of your hammer price for my stellar research, timely updates, thoughtful analysis, and miss marple detective work of bidders & sales, thus pushing the market up to these dizzy heights ! 🙄🤣

[Paul]

Coin Cabinet Gold Una & Lion ends on Sunday - still at £18,000  - more popcorn needed !! refresh, refresh refresh

They have it as their "star" lot - No1 and on homepage

https://auctions.thecoincabinet.com/lots/view/4-9BBA3/great-britain-elizabeth-ii-2019-gold-200-pounds-proof-una-the-lion-ngc-pf70-ultra-cameo-4863748-006

"LIVE" BIDDING BEGINS SUNDAY JAN 26, 2020 AT 3:00 PM GMT
 

[Paul]

2 hours ago, ShaolinStacker said:

Thanks! Accepted first offer of $30,000 + Shipping. Still haven't received payment. Buyer has been in communication. Will have another 24 hours to pay. After that will have to cancel 

$30,000 USD = £22,754 GBP 

[HelpingHands]

Get it sold during the hype.

[Paul]

29 minutes ago, HelpingHands said:

Get it sold during the hype.

Will see what the Coin Cabinets auction ends at on Sunday

See if the grading adds any +£ value/attraction to the hammer price, and to see what price it attains in a fiddle free/no shill bidding specalist coin sale in comparsion to eBay sales

None perfected graded have sold on eBay as yet

As this is a first, the first one in a specialist coin sale, this should really be the line in the sand/current value what the free market determines it to be worth currently

You may have some deep pocketted collectors who wont deal on eBay for the obvious risks, buying from a trusted 3rd party auction house that have vetted for authenticity and also poses next to zero risk buying. 

I will probaly decide what I will do next week 

[HelpingHands]

3 minutes ago, Paul said:

 

You may have some deep pocketted collectors who wont deal on eBay for the obvious risks, buying from a trusted 3rd party auction house that have vetted for authenticity and also poses next to zero risk buying. 

 

If so, asking Coin Cabinet to auction it for you might be a good idea.   You'd also avoid any ebay scam buyers.

[Paul]

3 minutes ago, HelpingHands said:

If so, asking Coin Cabinet to auction it for you might be a good idea.   You'd also avoid any ebay scam buyers.

Possibly......

Any eBay sale would have to be done in person cash deal - but that is not without risks dealing with £20k-£30k - no paypal etc.

[HelpingHands]

2 minutes ago, Paul said:

Possibly......

Any eBay sale would have to be done in person cash deal - but that is not without risks dealing with £20k-£30k - no paypal etc.

Bank transfer or bitcoin.  👍

[ShaolinStacker]

23 minutes ago, Paul said:

Possibly......

Any eBay sale would have to be done in person cash deal - but that is not without risks dealing with £20k-£30k - no paypal etc.

What is the concern with paypal? That they open a claim or such? I'm planning to transfer the money out of my account immediately 

[HelpingHands]

19 minutes ago, ShaolinStacker said:

What is the concern with paypal? That they open a claim or such? I'm planning to transfer the money out of my account immediately 

It's fine as long as paypal dont put a hold on withdrawals of high transactions or pull it back out of your bank account.

[Oldun]

Is that $30,000 before or after ebay fees ? It will be good to know to be able to do a fair comparison with the coin cabinet one.

Edited January 24, 2020 by Oldun

[Becca]

4 hours ago, Paul said:

Possibly......

Any eBay sale would have to be done in person cash deal - but that is not without risks dealing with £20k-£30k - no paypal etc.

Will need your bucket then.......   

 

 

Edited January 24, 2020 by Becca

[Paul]

3 hours ago, ShaolinStacker said:

What is the concern with paypal? That they open a claim or such? I'm planning to transfer the money out of my account immediately 

Even after withdrawl, should a chargeback occur , even after funds are withdrawn to bank, our PayPal will plunge in negative £30k and if fund are not back to positive figures,it will be outsourced, debt collection will see to recoup the negative balance, Gang of feckin thieves PayPal

[wolfiemac]

3 hours ago, ShaolinStacker said:

What is the concern with paypal? That they open a claim or such? I'm planning to transfer the money out of my account immediately 

I lost a few hundred quid when I got paid via PayPal, buyer used stolen credit card, I had already downloaded the money into my bank account, PayPal contacted me telling me not to sent items but it was too late I had already sent the items,  paypal put my account into minus.... I lost the items and had to upload the money back into my paypal account.

[Becca]

1 minute ago, Paul said:

Even after withdrawl, should a chargeback occur , even after funds are withdrawn to bank, our PayPal will plunge in negative £30k and if fund are not back to positive figures,it will be outsourced, debt collection will see to recoup the negative balance, Gang of feckin thieves PayPal

4 hours ago, ShaolinStacker said:

What is the concern with paypal? That they open a claim or such? I'm planning to transfer the money out of my account immediately 

 

Peoples love for and faith in paypal is highlighted by ebays shift away from them which is currently happening I believe