2020 Una and the Lion

[BrumChris]

2 hours ago, Frenchie said:

I hope  no,  what makes it great is it's uniqueness, Creating a new iteration would only dilute it . Moreover, the 1oz would be probably more flat as there would be maybe not enough "material" in order to create this beautiful high relief we have with the 2 oz

I believe there is meant to be a 5oz £10,000 version but I've not heard anymore about it since the first press release. RM might have decided that it's too much effort given the minting issues. 

[sovereignsteve]

It may well be a false sale to pump it up even further?

Edited January 22, 2020 by sovereignsteve

[Paul]

https://auctions.thecoincabinet.com/lots/view/4-9BBA3/great-britain-elizabeth-ii-2019-gold-200-pounds-proof-una-the-lion-ngc-pf70-ultra-cameo-4863748-006

Coin Cabinets Gold Una & Lion is languishing at a mere bargain £15,000 - ends Sunday 26th

[Paul]

3 minutes ago, sovereignsteve said:

It may well be a false sale to pump it up even further?

That is actually a problem becuase of these Max £1 sellings fees promotions eBay often do

Listed a few up on different IDs and take the hits on the few quids youll pay in fees, market established after 6 or 8 sales from different 'supposed' sellers.

Plop your coin on, when the general public/market forces 'assumes' the eBay prices are the benchmark prices & reap the rewards

It is not out of the realms of possibility

[sovereignsteve]

Just now, Paul said:

It is not out of the realms of possibility

It's a proven concept carried out by certain individuals. Whether it is the case with this sale? You might say that but I couldn't possibly comment😉

[Paul]

Just now, sovereignsteve said:

It's a proven concept carried out by certain individuals. 

With a user name like "GreedIsGood" - it makes you think ! 

[sovereignsteve]

3 minutes ago, Paul said:

With a user name like "GreedIsGood" - it makes you think !

I think someone named this ebay seller on here a few days ago.

[Paul]

If they were getting charged the full ebay listing fees of 10% sale price typically it would make them think twice on items of £20k - £30k

[BrumChris]

22 minutes ago, Paul said:

If they were getting charged the full ebay listing fees of 10% sale price typically it would make them think twice on items of £20k - £30k

I assume that if they cancel the sale or 'return' the coin then these aren't payable. This might account for one or two sales but there have been quite a few now. Should know once the feedback appears. 

[Paul]

1 minute ago, BrumChris said:

I assume that if they cancel the sale or 'return' the coin then these aren't payable. This might account for one or two sales but there have been quite a few now. Should know once the feedback appears. 

Yeah, that can happen, "mutual agreement to to cancel transaction" can be based by either side and fees reimbursed 

the sales result however still stay & are visible on ebay completed items 

[Pipers]

6 hours ago, Paul said:

My hand is close to the "sell" button to be totally fair/honest.  The result of coin cabinet auction in a week will finalise my decision

Im not a millionaire, im not a coin collector.  Ive parked fiat into gold to store value.

Im also a realist, if i can make best part of six months salary profit on one item ive 'got lucky with" i would be daft not to take it

 

If it was me i would sell. The bouble will burst on this, you will make good money, yes and well done you its just how much.  Its your finger on the trigger i hope you do well. For me  Times like these i listen to Kenny Rodgers the Gambler!!!

[Paul]

2 minutes ago, Pipers said:

If it was me i would sell. The bouble will burst on this, you will make good money, yes and well done you its just how much.  Its your finger on the trigger i hope you do well. For me  Times like these i listen to Kenny Rodgers the Gambler!!!

"Them Gambler he broke even" dont want that  

[Pipers]

😊 Ah yes, I was getting at you got to know when to hold them know when to fold them know when to walk away and know when to run. 

[Paul]

yup - in a prefect world we would all do this, who knows what is round the corner.  scoring a FREE half years salary for a months HODL'ing is sufficent reward i think 

[Pipers]

22 minutes ago, Paul said:

  scoring a FREE half years salary for a months HODL'ing is sufficent reward i think 

Its up to you.  Its a cracking song and true. 

 

[goldmember44]

These success stories of the Una and now the Queen coins do a lot for the Royal Mint brand, and could positively affect the values of all RM coins in some way. It's certainly welcoming for collectors and investors, and coin shops I guess!

[Kman]

27 minutes ago, goldmember44 said:

These success stories of the Una and now the Queen coins do a lot for the Royal Mint brand, and could positively affect the values of all RM coins in some way. It's certainly welcoming for collectors and investors, and coin shops I guess!

Especially the engraver series, depending what designs they do next

You can almost guarantee them selling out quickly with people hoping they will match the Una 

[AppleZippoandMetronome]

32 minutes ago, Kman said:

Especially the engraver series, depending what designs they do next

You can almost guarantee them selling out quickly with people hoping they will match the Una 

100% this. I can see the next ones even in silver being tricky to get

[BrumChris]

55 minutes ago, Kman said:

Especially the engraver series, depending what designs they do next

You can almost guarantee them selling out quickly with people hoping they will match the Una 

Definitely a full sell out. However, they may well be disappointed. All depends on the coin they go for, e.g. a gothic crown won't exceed the price of the original. £4000 should get you one in great condition.

[Oldun]

8 hours ago, BrumChris said:

I believe there is meant to be a 5oz £10,000 version but I've not heard anymore about it since the first press release. RM might have decided that it's too much effort given the minting issues. 

Saw one for sale yesterday for the bargain price of £125,000 in Asia. Suffice it to say, it hasn’t sold yet !

Edited January 22, 2020 by Oldun

[BrumChris]

4 minutes ago, Oldun said:

Saw one for sale yesterday. They are out there, somewhere.

Interesting. Perhaps the mint sold them abroad.

[Kman]

 

16 minutes ago, BrumChris said:

Definitely a full sell out. However, they may well be disappointed. All depends on the coin they go for, e.g. a gothic crown won't exceed the price of the original. £4000 should get you one in great condition.

Yep very true, also RM might decide to double mintage seeing the success 🙄

[BrumChris]

8 minutes ago, Kman said:

 

Yep very true, also RM might decide to double mintage seeing the success 🙄

Indeed. I'd guess a minimum of 300 gold but could be up to 500.

[Melon]

2 hours ago, BrumChris said:

Definitely a full sell out. However, they may well be disappointed. All depends on the coin they go for, e.g. a gothic crown won't exceed the price of the original. £4000 should get you one in great condition.

The smart money might be on buying an original Gothic Crown then. If they do release that next, it could create interest in the original and push the price up. 

[Gibby]

1 hour ago, Melon said:

The smart money might be on buying an original Gothic Crown then. If they do release that next, it could create interest in the original and push the price up. 

There wasn’t a gold version gothic, I think we could be getting into the gimmick versions after this one. There was however a gold 1935 rocking horse crown, I might put my money on one of those 😏

Edited January 23, 2020 by Gibby