. . . . .Those were the days {sigh} :(

[Paul]

Isn't hindsight a funny thing. 

Wouldn't it have been nice to have a crystal ball back in 2012 to look into the future when this auction happened in my local area

No takers for a 1989 proof sovereign at £200 

or an 1817 sovereign for £320  or a 1817 half for a ton 

 

[Scootermuppet]

Quite an eye opener Paul... wonder if we'll be doing the same in 2032 ? 🤔

[Paul]

Just now, Scootermuppet said:

Quite an eye opener Paul... wonder if we'll be doing the same in 2032 ? 🤔

i wonder what a 2022 proof jubilee sovereign will be then . . . . .. . ??? 

[Scootermuppet]

Indeed! the way the prices have shot up on eBay, who knows! - Glad I decided to go for a PF70 Proof Half & Full one now! 🙂

[LawrenceChard]

5 minutes ago, Paul said:

Isn't hindsight a funny thing. 

Wouldn't it have been nice to have a crystal ball back in 2012 to look into the future when this auction happened in my local area

No takers for a 1989 proof sovereign at £200 

or an 1817 sovereign for £320  or a 1817 half for a ton 

 

Do you know what date in 2012?😎

Gold was £1078.23 on 1st November 2012.

That would make the intrinsic value of a sovereign £254.77

 

[Paul]

1 minute ago, LawrenceChard said:

Do you know what date in 2012?😎

Gold was £1078.23 on 1st November 2012.

That would make the intrinsic value of a sovereign £254.77

 

June 14th 2012 by the looks of it 

Edited September 9, 2022 by Paul

[LawrenceChard]

26 minutes ago, Paul said:

June 14th 2012 by the looks of it 

OK 1st June 2012 £1026.63 would make a sovereign = £241.63

1st July 2012 £1021.50 would make a sovereign = £240.41

I guess there may have been buyers' premium, which might account for some prices or lack of bids.

😎

 

[GoldStatue]

38 minutes ago, Paul said:

No takers for a 1989 proof sovereign at £200

Bit of an unfortunate typo on that listing, they put it down as a 1898 sovereign 😀

I'm pretty sure it is in the past 4 years where the prices have gone up sharply.

As an example for the 1989 proof sovereign I've seen a few youtube videos from back then and they were pricing it as £900 and nowadays you can easily pay double that.

[Orpster]

23 minutes ago, GoldStatue said:

Bit of an unfortunate typo on that listing, they put it down as a 1898 sovereign 😀

I'm pretty sure it is in the past 4 years where the prices have gone up sharply.

As an example for the 1989 proof sovereign I've seen a few youtube videos from back then and they were pricing it as £900 and nowadays you can easily pay double that.

In 1990 you could get them below issue price, it was not a popular design at the time at all.

Makes you wonder where some of the unpopular designs of today will be in 20 years

[SidS]

By 2032 it'll probably be cheaper to buy an Henry VII sovereign than an 1989 sovereign. 😁

[Britannia47]

The listed price from the RM for the 1989 Sov was £149.95. and £525 for a quintuplet! Years later you could pick up a whole 4 coin set for £850…..

[Paul]

34 minutes ago, SidS said:

By 2032 it'll probably be cheaper to buy an Henry VII sovereign than an 1989 sovereign. 😁

 

[Britannia47]

That brings back memories!  Was waiting for the bit where John Cleese says with a French accent …”I fart in your general direction” 😀

[Paul]

1 minute ago, Britannia47 said:

That brings back memories!  Was waiting for the bit where John Cleese says with a French accent …”I fart in your general direction” 😀

happy to oblige sir ! 

 

[HerefordBullyun]

8 hours ago, LawrenceChard said:

Do you know what date in 2012?😎

Gold was £1078.23 on 1st November 2012.

That would make the intrinsic value of a sovereign £254.77

 

What were the prices when you were a lad in 1864 @LawrenceChard?

[LawrenceChard]

3 minutes ago, HerefordBullyun said:

What were the prices when you were a lad in 1864 @LawrenceChard?

No, as far as I can remember, they were worth about £0.985 intrinsic in 1864.

😎

[Darr3nG]

1 hour ago, LawrenceChard said:

No, as far as I can remember, they were worth about £0.985 intrinsic in 1864.

😎

How many groats was that?

[LawrenceChard]

1 minute ago, Darr3nG said:

How many groats was that?

89 of course!

😎

[SidS]

6 hours ago, LawrenceChard said:

89 of course!

😎

89 groats, someone took you to the cleaners if you swapped a sovereign for that in 1864! 😁

I wondered where all these groats I had came from!

[westminstrel]

What would be a fair price to pay for a raw 1957 Sovereign today?

[LawrenceChard]

7 hours ago, SidS said:

89 groats, someone took you to the cleaners if you swapped a sovereign for that in 1864! 😁

I wondered where all these groats I had came from!

If the swap was minty for minty, you are better off with the groats!

Although no groats were issued in 1864, the nearest I can find is 1854:

You might have to settle for a Maundy fourpence, and th nearest I can get is 1865:

I am sure we have lots of 1864 gold sovereigns in stock:

😎

[LawrenceChard]

On 10/09/2022 at 05:37, westminstrel said:

What would be a fair price to pay for a raw 1957 Sovereign today?

fair:  scrap price only

Fine: 5% premium

VF:  20% premium...

😎

For clarification, the above was not intended as price / value advice, just the usual exercise of my humour, after seizing on "fair" price.

Edited September 11, 2022 by LawrenceChard
Clarification

[LawrenceChard]

On 10/09/2022 at 05:37, westminstrel said:

What would be a fair price to pay for a raw 1957 Sovereign today?

I added a clarification to my earlier reply:

😎

[westminstrel]

42 minutes ago, LawrenceChard said:

I added a clarification to my earlier reply:

😎

Heheh all good. Thanks @LawrenceChard 

[dicker]

I thought the 5oz bars I bought at the Perth Mint in 2006 were expensive at the time….I was very wrong.