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'Superior golden colour'? Here's the original 1918 sovereign minted in Bombay v 2018 minted by PAMP in Delhi. - One made from red gold, the other from yellow gold. I know which one I prefer. 😃

My favourite subject! If you want detail, you need to buy a proof version or matt finish sovereign. For many years the RM has been treating collectors as children, thinking that making sovereigns look like shiny chocolate buttons would make them more attractive. Of course there is no comparison with past coins; the alloy has changed and is wholly red gold (all copper) for one thing. I specially noticed the difference on the Paul Day 2012 bullion sovereign where there is so much reflection that it is difficult to see much detail at all. Also remember the Sovereign is now the only British go

My only 2 sets: The 1982 set seems to be rare as well, bur can't think why - perhaps the Falklands war? Sold by the RM for £1100 and the '89 for £1150! but initially sold for a lot less on the secondary market. Those were the days.

The book is well worth having, commemorating the 150th anniversary of the first Sidney 'Australia' sovereign minted outside the RM in 1855. It normally comes with an 2005 proof sovereign. However the original, engraved by James Wyon was not well liked and only lasted 2 years. The Perth Mint is a must to visit if in Oz. Buy loads of coins in the shop and watch a live 'gold pour'! The 2005 like the original uses only silver in the alloy, unlike the RMs red/pink/ copper offerings....

Calibrated my 'Tanita' scales and weighed all my sovereigns this morning. Pete was correct - later sovereigns can weigh in at 8.0 or slightly over. Most of mine were 7.98, flicking 7.99. However, earlier sovs. displaying some wear can display weight loss up to 0.05g. Several of my shield=backs were 7.94/95/97 etc. My earliest sov. 1817 came in at 7.98, so better get it graded! The heaviest was a Pobjoy minted Isle of Man 1979 sovereign at 8.19g. A 1/4 oz Griffon came in at exactly .250 so perhaps the RM doesn't always give away free gold! Anyway, weight shouldn't be an issue for bullion stac

Your latest photos seem to show an acceptable bullion coin despite the wear on the obverse. Your new scales with .01g should show IMO that you should be close to 7.98g. I've just weighed my 1887 Jubilee head bullion sovereign and it was just touching on 7.98g. I only have 2 'underweight' (below about 7.94) sovs, both being well circulated Victorian Young-heads. So relax you might be surprised.

Took a few seconds to work out what I was looking at. Displaying the reverse would have been far more interesting than Gillicks' 'Queenie!' Nice coins though. Thanks to RII1288.

Thought I'd try to cheer everyone up and show you some lovely gold - the reason I'm on this forum! Bought the 'Philharmoniker' from a certain dealer from Blackpool in 2009 for £660 so have more than doubled my money. Thank-you Lawrence!

There is another thread on same subject! I'm surprised you missed it, because its on this very page by 'Isitreal' - 1/8 Sovereign George & Dragon! Go ahead if you want a 1 gram coin the size of a shirt button (11mm)

1904-S Type Three Double Eagle 900 Gold ( 21.6ct) .96750 oz of gold "has the highest mintage of any San Francisco double eagle at 5,134,175 one of the most available issues from this mint" * Not sure about any numismatic value but I would love one in my collection! Also minted in Philadelphia with over 6 million. I only have a modern 1995 1oz gold eagle! Good luck. * Double Eagles 1877-1907 by Mike Fuljenz

Quite agree about the colour. Here's the original 1817 Sov. next to the proof 2017. when gold sovereigns actually looked gold! The alloy used in the 1817 was a mix of copper and silver with a trace of iron. Today the alloy is all copper. What's missing from the 2017 Sov. are the initials W.W.P. 'William Wellesley Pole' engraved by Pistrucci concealed on the buckle of the garter. Perhaps the RM thought no one would notice! Without the Master of the Mints say-so the Modern Sovereign would not have existed.

Marketing companies usually target the general public ( not discerning members of this forum!? ) I would leave this one alone. Typically, exclusive deals are done with a British Overseas territory, such as Gibraltar, or Tristan Da Cunha (TDC) and so on. In this case its Alderney. A 1/8th Sov. never existed - for that matter neither did a 1/4 sov. in circulation. It contains 0.9166g of gold. £73 Hmmm! Its true that 2021 is the 200th anniv. of Pistrucci's's 'definitive' design carrying a sword instead of the handle of a lance. I don't know who minted this - perhaps Jody Clark is moonlighting? I

1997 Proof Sovereign for £149 from RM. Seemed a lot of money then cf. bullion sovereigns for £45/50!

The 'UNITED' spacing from the rim of the coin may concern you, but in my opinion is simply a minting anomaly. I think its genuine. Testing may not help as I understand the Chinese can replicate the exact composition of the coin ie 900 gold, but make their money from the added numismatic value. 900 gold (21.6 carat) has been used for virtually all early American coins ie Eagles and Double eagles etc, and even the Mexican 50 Pesos. 1909 is the only year in which Indian Head Half Eagles were produced at four different mints: Philadelphia, Denver, New Orleans, and San Francisco with a

Similar thread to this by Leon Marsh Dec 11 2020 ' Indian Head Experts Opinions' Check it out.