2022 Fifty Pence Pride Coins Royal Mint Page - New Release Coming Soon

[LawrenceChard]

8 hours ago, Foster88 said:

The comments here are an absolute disgrace.

Imagine not being able to walk down the street holding hands with the person you love.

 

Well I can't because someone might see me and tell my wife!

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[LawrenceChard]

3 hours ago, TeaTime said:

Personally i think it's another typical lazy example  - if you have to write all over the coin what it is meant to represent then you have failed in the design.

 

I have failed to imagine graphics in order to convey the coin's theme, without any inscriptions.

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[DrKarlMoneys]

Some people here seem to be confusing certain 'woke' ambitions by a minority (which they don't even seem to have even tried to understand and usually in the US) with the gay rights movement in the UK that this coin is celebrating. Gay people have only been allowed to even get married since 2014, it was illegal to even be gay in the UK until 1967.

I'm straight but I'll still be picking one of these coins up. I don't collect 50ps but I appreciate the design and it celebrates an important cultural milestone-a lot has improved in the last 50 years.

[James32]

This thread has been taken completely out of context and should be shut down/closed to save the dignity of the forum to be honest. 

I tried to make my view clear but here I go again....I'm not trying to belittle anyone's rights or beliefs, everyone is equal and entitled to be who they want in life.

The meaning of the coin is not under attack/discussion in my personal opinion, but simply being made fun off because its another 50p release?? If anyone is still unsure about anything I've said...my PM's are open anytime and happy to discuss further.

[TeaTime]

1 hour ago, LawrenceChard said:

I have failed to imagine graphics in order to convey the coin's theme, without any inscriptions.

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Lucky you're not a RM coin designer ! 

Just writing slogans across the face of a coin is lazy and a bit too 'in your face' - it seems to be the fall-back option the RM take when they want to rush out more product or virtue signal. Something with a little more subtlety could be entwined roses. If no-one can come up with a valid design at the RM then it's a sad state of affairs.

What next, remove the figure of Britannia and just write 'helmet, trident, shield, person' .... 😁 

[LawrenceChard]

When I posted the RM screenshot as the original post in this topic / thread, I did think the coin might create some controversy on social media, but didn't expect it to create quite as much heated discussion here on TSF. (I hope I don't get banned for posting controversial topics and stirring up trouble).

In general, I think any social media and mainstream news discussions will be good for numismatics, as it will increase public interest, UK and international.

I also think open discussion is, or should be, generally healthy, but am aware that we seem to have many extreme factions in our society, which is regrettable. Much of this may be exacerbated by the easy anonymity of social media. It is probable that there have always been extreme views around, but we did not use to see them published very frequently. It is also apparent that social media makes it easy for extremists and agitators to sway and influence the less bright members of society, encouraging them to join in, and also to take actual physical action, which we could well do without.

While it is, in some ways, good that most of us are in liberal regimes where free speech is possible and easy, there are downsides also.

One major consolation is that those of us who are living under liberal regimes should be thankful and relieved that we are not in countries with repressive regimes where many commonplace things we take for granted are not permitted, and can bring severe retribution.

One of my favourite mantras is "We are all diferent". It is a good philosophy for life.

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[LawrenceChard]

4 minutes ago, TeaTime said:

Lucky you're not a RM coin designer ! 

Just writing slogans across the face of a coin is lazy and a bit too 'in your face' - it seems to be the fall-back option the RM take when they want to rush out more product or virtue signal. Something with a little more subtlety could be entwined roses. If no-one can come up with a valid design at the RM then it's a sad state of affairs.

What next, remove the figure of Britannia and just write 'helmet, trident, shield, person' .... 😁 

Entwined roses might be mistaken for an RHS commemorative design.

Some concepts are more difficult to portray graphically, and words have often been used to promote ideas, for example:

PAXS (peace) on the reverse of a William I silver penny.

How else could this be conveyed? Two soldiers not trying to kill each other?

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[Shinus73]

1 hour ago, James32 said:

I tried to make my view clear but here I go again....I'm not trying to belittle anyone's rights or beliefs, everyone is equal and entitled to be who they want in life.

You may not have been trying to, but it is what you (and others) did.

[James32]

Just now, Shinus73 said:

You may not have been trying to, but it is what you (and others) did.

That's your opinion and your very much entitled to it...but in my opinion you're wrong as only I know how I think and feel ( only regarding me of course,I can't or won't speak for others)

Now that I've had time to reflect on my only comment ( picture) I'm still bemused by the coin ( again to be crystal clear,not the coins meaning we are all equalin my mind) and it only sets out to do one thing,which is to line the pockets of the Royal Mint, nothing more.

Do you honestly believe in you're heart this coin takes away hundreds of years of suffering/belittling and shaming on our fellow man/women??

Do you seriously miss the part where a massive..already heavily rich entity is doing nothing more than exploiting a highly sensitive situation for more personal gain?

I could go on all day about right and wrong but unfortunately I think you're mind is already made up on the nature of my jokey picture.

I'd once again ask the moderators to close/lock this disaster of a thread before further context is lost....I won't tag or report anything as its not in my nature, but if the moderation team happen to read this....please shut this nonsense down.

 

 

[Shinus73]

2 minutes ago, James32 said:

That's your opinion and your very much entitled to it...but in my opinion you're wrong as only I know how I think and feel ( only regarding me of course,I can't or won't speak for others)

Now that I've had time to reflect on my only comment ( picture) I'm still bemused by the coin ( again to be crystal clear,not the coins meaning we are all equalin my mind) and it only sets out to do one thing,which is to line the pockets of the Royal Mint, nothing more.

Do you honestly believe in you're heart this coin takes away hundreds of years of suffering/belittling and shaming on our fellow man/women??

Do you seriously miss the part where a massive..already heavily rich entity is doing nothing more than exploiting a highly sensitive situation for more personal gain?

I could go on all day about right and wrong but unfortunately I think you're mind is already made up on the nature of my jokey picture.

I'd once again ask the moderators to close/lock this disaster of a thread before further context is lost....I won't tag or report anything as its not in my nature, but if the moderation team happen to read this....please shut this nonsense down.

 

 

The Mint now exists to produce commemorative coins - it celebrates historic achievements and events, of which this is undoubtedly one. 

I don't understand why you would be bemused by this one, more than any others.

Your original post clearly offended people, whether it was meant to or not, maybe this is what you should reflect on.

 

[Zhorro]

I wonder if this coin will be on release to the public, or kept in the closet?

[James32]

8 minutes ago, Shinus73 said:

don't understand why you would be bemused by this one, more than any others.

I think all the 50ps released are tacky and uninspiring to be completely honest.

You keep saying I offended by putting up a picture of a rainbow? Rainbow's are allowed to be talked about without a holy war starting,rainbows represent a 100 other things. Ive tried to be clear about my intentions and feelings, but I'm wasting no more energy on this,the jury has made its decision ( ironic)

If anyone genuinely offended by my picture still can't understand that I intended no ill will, then please accept my geniune apologies...or report me to the moderator's.

 

 

[GoldDiggerDave]

Has it sold out yet? 

[GoldDiggerDave]

When is it out? 

[LemmyMcGregor]

17 hours ago, Paul said:

Can my quote, be proved to wrong please in six twelve or eighteen months time. Feel free to requote me 

Chrirp chirp crickets I'll wager

Want to bet 1oz that it'll be above melt? I'd say it will be probably at least 50p 🤣

13 hours ago, Foster88 said:

The comments here are an absolute disgrace.

It’s a new release 50p to represent people who have gone through hell to be who they are. I repeat, people who have gone through hell to be who they are.

Come on guys, you’re better than a comment as a joke for a few ‘likes’ or reactions.

I love this forum until I see these absolute fking s*it Comments.

Imagine not being able to walk down the street holding hands with the person you love.

Imagine not being able to kiss your partner in public through fear of relatiation.

Imagine pretending to be someone you’re not.

Studies have shown: The most homophobic men are themselves bi or gay.

Grow up.

At the end of the day it’s a 50p. If you don’t like it, don’t buy it.

So many comments above could have never been if only the writer thought twice.

Mate, I don't know where you live, but anywhere I've been in England that's the norm, I recall going to Brighton for the first time 15 years ago* and there was a healthy gay scene in the open where the locals mingled without any problem. Sure, nobody wants to deny the adversities that folks had to go through, and there are most definitely still some dickheads, I'm a bouncer and just a few weeks ago I had to chuck out an idiot that was being homophobic and got started on a punter, at the same time, about time that folks stopped bitching about the past. Today you can be whatever you want and nobody would bat an eyelid, in a club I used to work we had a couple of transvestites going to the cub next door, nobody cared and, if anything, they were looked after more than other as we wanted to make sure that folks could be whatever the hell they want to be. Bullies will bully for any reason, I was bullied for being fat and dressing differently, am I getting a special day for fat kids?

What is not being appreciated here is not the Pride as a concept, but what have it has been transformed into. Start from the lettering, went from LGB to a meme, where if they don't add your letter you're not included, which is sad to begin with, as anyone should be included under one unmbrella, what happened is that they have fragmented the scene even more. It has then been turned to a political tool, look at the racial connections of some of the symbols. Lastly, I have stopped going to Pride events for many reasons and, funny enough, so have some of my gay friends for similar reasons, it feels like they have become event for men to turn more and more extreme, I don't recall seeing any female act at the last Pride I attended and there is the glaring exclusion of any straight act, surely inclusion would mean that we need to start celebrating all together, however, many Pride linked organisations and activists don't want to deal with straight folks, where is the inclusion?

Lastly, the word salad on the coin to me scream more Socialism than Pride. If you have to cover the coin in slogans, maybe you have failed, something simpler without the need for propaganda would have been way more accepted. I mean, seriously, that design looks like terrible, and not because is Pride and I'm against, but because, well... it's genuinely nothing special... there are circulations coins that are nicer that.. hell, the Paddington 50p are nicer than this eyesore.

*This might deserve a tale on its own. I am a biker, I went to see a mate, so I dressed up for the ride, leather trousers, flaming red shirt, leather waistcoat, leather jacket, cowboy boots and hat. In Brighton. Was hilarious.

8 hours ago, GoldDabbler said:

It would be lovely to live in a society of inherent empathy for all but we don't and I doubt we ever will. Expecting the world, online or off, to support you or anyone else  in the way you want it to never works. Inner strength and self reliance does, along with a rhino quality skin, mastering the art of the over head whoosh, and training your fingers to not respond to silly comments online. Not worth the aggro. 

Many folks professing empathy don't know what empathy is, in most cases they are narcissists trying to show off their virtues.

 

Edited May 19, 2022 by LemmyMcGregor

[LawrenceChard]

1 hour ago, TeaTime said:

Lucky you're not a RM coin designer ! 

Just writing slogans across the face of a coin is lazy and a bit too 'in your face' - it seems to be the fall-back option the RM take when they want to rush out more product or virtue signal. Something with a little more subtlety could be entwined roses. If no-one can come up with a valid design at the RM then it's a sad state of affairs.

What next, remove the figure of Britannia and just write 'helmet, trident, shield, person' .... 😁 

Now there's an idea:

Did we miss anything?

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[James32]

Just now, LawrenceChard said:

Now there's an idea:

Did we miss anything?

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Denomination?

[LawrenceChard]

Just now, James32 said:

Denomination?

Optional!

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[James32]

Just now, LawrenceChard said:

Optional!

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Mintage?

[LawrenceChard]

26 minutes ago, James32 said:

Mintage?

How many would you like to buy?

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27 minutes ago, James32 said:

Mintage?

Quality?

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[James32]

Just now, LawrenceChard said:

How many would you like to buy?

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Quality?

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 How many in a tube?

[LawrenceChard]

2 minutes ago, James32 said:

 How many in a tube?

Are we back to Paddington Underground Station?

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[GoldDiggerDave]

When is it coming out?  

[SovereignBishop]

43 minutes ago, LemmyMcGregor said:

Want to bet 1oz that it'll be above melt? I'd say it will be probably at least 50p 🤣

Mate, I don't know where you live, but anywhere I've been in England that's the norm, I recall going to Brighton for the first time 15 years ago* and there was a healthy gay scene in the open where the locals mingled without any problem. Sure, nobody wants to deny the adversities that folks had to go through, and there are most definitely still some dickheads, I'm a bouncer and just a few weeks ago I had to chuck out an idiot that was being homophobic and got started on a punter, at the same time, about time that folks stopped bitching about the past. Today you can be whatever you want and nobody would bat an eyelid, in a club I used to work we had a couple of transvestites going to the cub next door, nobody cared and, if anything, they were looked after more than other as we wanted to make sure that folks could be whatever the hell they want to be. Bullies will bully for any reason, I was bullied for being fat and dressing differently, am I getting a special day for fat kids?

What is not being appreciated here is not the Pride as a concept, but what have it has been transformed into. Start from the lettering, went from LGB to a meme, where if they don't add your letter you're not included, which is sad to begin with, as anyone should be included under one unmbrella, what happened is that they have fragmented the scene even more. It has then been turned to a political tool, look at the racial connections of some of the symbols. Lastly, I have stopped going to Pride events for many reasons and, funny enough, so have some of my gay friends for similar reasons, it feels like they have become event for men to turn more and more extreme, I don't recall seeing any female act at the last Pride I attended and there is the glaring exclusion of any straight act, surely inclusion would mean that we need to start celebrating all together, however, many Pride linked organisations and activists don't want to deal with straight folks, where is the inclusion?

Lastly, the word salad on the coin to me scream more Socialism than Pride. If you have to cover the coin in slogans, maybe you have failed, something simpler without the need for propaganda would have been way more accepted. I mean, seriously, that design looks like terrible, and not because is Pride and I'm against, but because, well... it's genuinely nothing special... there are circulations coins that are nicer that.. hell, the Paddington 50p are nicer than this eyesore.

*This might deserve a tale on its own. I am a biker, I went to see a mate, so I dressed up for the ride, leather trousers, flaming red shirt, leather waistcoat, leather jacket, cowboy boots and hat. In Brighton. Was hilarious.

Many folks professing empathy don't know what empathy is, in most cases they are narcissists trying to show off their virtues.

 

Comment to end all comments.

[LawrenceChard]

9 minutes ago, GoldDiggerDave said:

When is it coming out?  

Who knows, in light of:

"Transport for London (TfL) has announced the delayed Crossrail project"...

... by at least nine months to autumn 2019!

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