2020 Una and the Lion

[Paul]

11 minutes ago, AurumArgenti said:

The coin cabinet have a auction soon. Theres a 2oz silver una with a bid of £2800 with lots if time to go. I wonder what the celling for a PF70 is nowadays?

 

Best to ask the chap whoever is bidding against you !

I've not seen many 70s offered or sold on past few months 

[silversurf]

The last one I've seen sold for around $5.5k at Heritage. Once you take in account commission, 20%, and exchange rates it works out to around roughly 4k sterling. My guess, for what that's worth, will be around 4k as well. Don't think it will hit the Covid highs of last year at 6k.

Still very rare to see them up for sale and an unbelievable return on a £200 investment if you bought at release.

 

 

[Simmoleon]

11 hours ago, AurumArgenti said:

The coin cabinet have a auction soon. Theres a 2oz silver una with a bid of £2800 with lots if time to go. I wonder what the celling for a PF70 is nowadays?

 

It may just be me but that coin has been set wonky in that slab; if I had a spare £5k and bought it, I’d have to get it reslabbed 

[apachebleu]

18 hours ago, AurumArgenti said:

The coin cabinet have a auction soon. Theres a 2oz silver una with a bid of £2800 with lots if time to go. I wonder what the celling for a PF70 is nowadays?

 

 I mean it's a nice coin, prefer the 3 graces myself, but hard to believe it's worth that, must be to someone though.

[AurumArgenti]

Everybody loves a PF70 grade over a 69 or 68. Psychology I guess? We're all guilty of it.😜

It just means you need 2 to 3 times deeper pockets for that feeling.🙂

 

[Paul]

https://auctions.thecoincabinet.com/lots/view/4-79O70L/2019-silver-5-pounds-2-oz-una-and-the-lion-proof-ngc-pf-70-ultra-cameo-5841150-022

PF70 silver Una & Lion Ending later today currently at £4,600 plus buyers premium to add ! 

[AurumArgenti]

9 minutes ago, Paul said:

https://auctions.thecoincabinet.com/lots/view/4-79O70L/2019-silver-5-pounds-2-oz-una-and-the-lion-proof-ngc-pf-70-ultra-cameo-5841150-022

PF70 silver Una & Lion Ending later today currently at £4,600 plus buyers premium to add ! 

Yeah its going to be interesting to see what the celling is for a PF70 in todays market. 🚀🌙?

[Paul]

https://bidlive.coinsoftherealm-auctions.com/lots/view/4-7BW5RD/2019-elizabeth-ii-una-and-the-lion-silver-2oz-proof-5-pound-coin-pf69-ucam

theres a 69 in tomorrows COTR auction to follow as well 

[Paul]

Una - pf70 sold for £5,000 + (6% BP & VAT)

 

[AurumArgenti]

20 minutes ago, Paul said:

Una - pf70 sold for £5,000 + (6% BP & VAT)

 

That's some price strength.  

[Paul]

4 minutes ago, AurumArgenti said:

That's some price strength.  

indeed it is

 

not bad return from £180 RRP for 2oz silver 

[AurumArgenti]

10 minutes ago, Paul said:

indeed it is

 

not bad return from £180 RRP for 2oz silver 

Is it 6%bp and full fat 20% vat?

[Paul]

Just now, AurumArgenti said:

Is it 6%bp and full fat 20% vat?

not sure, ive not bought from CC since they introduced the buyers premium

i think it is VAT on just the buyer premium part @ 20%  

£5000

BP @ 6% = £300

VAT on the £300 @ 20% = £60

Total to pay £5360

i think ! 🙄🎖️ someone correct me if im wrong please

[Chrisplym]

I believe that is right Paul. There is then postage on top.

[Paul]

https://bsjauctions.auctionmobility.com/lots/view/1-6AUASX/the-royal-berkshire-sovereign-and-great-engravers-collection-part-ii

2oz gold Una sold last week for £27,000 with Baldwins at st James. Need to add +20%buyers premium and vat to that hammer price and delivery to @AurumArgenti

[AurumArgenti]

5 minutes ago, Paul said:

https://bsjauctions.auctionmobility.com/lots/view/1-6AUASX/the-royal-berkshire-sovereign-and-great-engravers-collection-part-ii

2oz gold Una sold last week for £27,000 with Baldwins at st James. Need to add +20%buyers premium and vat to that hammer price and delivery to @AurumArgenti

I guess if you're spending £27k on a coin. What's another few grand?😆

[Paul]

16 minutes ago, AurumArgenti said:

I guess if you're spending £27k on a coin. What's another few grand?😆

It was a pf69 so expect a 70 would have been a bit higher.

Last one at a 70 2oz gold at coin cabinet auction made £59,000 but that was during peak mania market and zero buyer premiums 

[AurumArgenti]

Ungraded Silver 2oz Una finishing in 7 minutes. Current bid £2100.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/234702517044?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=0msnbb3-s1q&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=RjlIgr1zTkS&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[AurumArgenti]

[Paul]

21 minutes ago, AurumArgenti said:

Pop it through grading and hope for a 70 for a few grand uplift ! 

[AurumArgenti]

40 minutes ago, Paul said:

Pop it through grading and hope for a 70 for a few grand uplift ! 

I bet they'll try.😆

[foinikas]

On 28/09/2022 at 16:51, Paul said:

not sure, ive not bought from CC since they introduced the buyers premium

i think it is VAT on just the buyer premium part @ 20%  

£5000

BP @ 6% = £300

VAT on the £300 @ 20% = £60

Total to pay £5360

i think ! 🙄🎖️ someone correct me if im wrong please

Unfortunately the coin in discussion was full of milkspots (despite being a pf70).

For me grade is not just a number, i always check carefuly the photos of the coin in sale. If there is a very small milkspot or imperfection i might still buy if i like the coin, but i would never buy a pf70 full of milkspot as i know the coin might be a pf67-69 and is worth half of what is sold for..

[AurumArgenti]

2 hours ago, foinikas said:

Unfortunately the coin in discussion was full of milkspots (despite being a pf70).

For me grade is not just a number, i always check carefuly the photos of the coin in sale. If there is a very small milkspot or imperfection i might still buy if i like the coin, but i would never buy a pf70 full of milkspot as i know the coin might be a pf67-69 and is worth half of what is sold for..

Now this could open a can of worms! Again!

Edited October 2, 2022 by AurumArgenti

[Paul]

Welll everyone paying over the odds for plastic coffin 70 silver, needs to prepare for all silver tarnishing and changing as the years tick on. A ,graded 70 today, in 50 years time will look like ???? 

[foinikas]

4 hours ago, Paul said:

Welll everyone paying over the odds for plastic coffin 70 silver, needs to prepare for all silver tarnishing and changing as the years tick on. A ,graded 70 today, in 50 years time will look like ???? 

The slab is much better protecting your coins than the capsule. Most of us have dropped capsules at some point i am sure 😂