fmadmarq

Yes, there was Elizabeth II Gold-  First Coinage all Gold- Sovereigns- produced for ‘institutional collecting’.   Realistically, these Sovereigns are never going to come to market.  
Reference: Spink, 2023 ‘Coins of England’ 


The smart collector among us bagged the 1953 dated Proof Gillick Portrait depicted on the South Africa Gold issues 😉  

 

 

Okay, so I found a square coin holder and placed the RM capsule inside it, aligning it to the corner so that it does not shift.
The obverse is indeed several degrees off.


@LawrenceChard@BackyardBullion Have you seen anything similar with any Sovs you’ve come across?

Thanks @James32, @GoldDiggerDave, @DdraigAur!
@LawrenceChard- I only have a quarter 2017 Proof, so I am not selling a 2017 Proof Sov!  Are you looking for one? 🙊 
 
 

Two privy mark "Mad-king" the third Sovereigns! 🙃
I am wondering if I should slab and grade at least one of them... 🤔

Two privy mark "Mad-king" the third Sovereigns! 🙃
I am wondering if I should slab and grade at least one of them... 🤔

I suspect the minting of the obverse/reverse and side inscription must have been a two stage process ie. Coins were struck with obverse and reverse completed on one machine then transferred onto another machine for inscription.
Whichever process was done first, in order for the inscription to read in a certain direction, then someone would have to turn all the coins the "right" way up for the second stage process.  I think this would be far too labour intensive for mass produced coins. So the Mint must have decided not to bother and let them be random. 

I had to read your description about 3 times, and look at the photos a few times before I understood what you were trying to say.
At first it sounded like you had a coin which had its edge inscription going both ways, which would be rare. Some of this was derived from your title, so I was expecting to see an error or variety.
It turned out you had 2 coin, which you did state, and that each one has its edge inscription in goind in a different direction.
As others have already informed you, this is perfectly normal.
The edge and the main striking are done separately in two different processes, and why wouldn't they be.
While it is easy to get a grained (reeded) edge on a coin by striking it in a suitably grained collar, to create edge lettering at the same time as the main strike would require a very complicated piece of heavy machinery, which would almost certainly be prone to misfunction, damage, and constant repair. Hust try to imagine yourself designing the equipment. If you were pressing or moulding designs onto chocolate, it would be easy, but striking coins requires many tons or force. Simultaneous edging would also require similar horizontal force applied though all 360 degrees at the same time as the vertically applied forces.
The word "pointless" in your title is puzzling.
One potentially good thing that has some out of this is that you have learnt something about numismatics and coin production whihc you did not know before...
... and you get all that free of charge, here on TSF, and no postage charges!
😎

Winners and losers.

Two privy mark "Mad-king" the third Sovereigns! 🙃
I am wondering if I should slab and grade at least one of them... 🤔

Two privy mark "Mad-king" the third Sovereigns! 🙃
I am wondering if I should slab and grade at least one of them... 🤔

Two privy mark "Mad-king" the third Sovereigns! 🙃
I am wondering if I should slab and grade at least one of them... 🤔

Thank you all for your input, you are great!
Yes, I feel a bit paralyzed in my choice but, I think picking best quality trumps rarity!
 

@Midasfrog -  Sure, the price I am getting the 1842 Sovereign is £406. I hopefully will also get 3x 1/2 Sovs from 1846, 1851 and 1855 (and before you ask 😋🙊 - £214 each). ☺️
 

@HerefordBullyun - Nope! 😋🙊

@HerefordBullyun - Nope! 😋🙊

@HerefordBullyun - Nope! 😋🙊

Happy for the lucky people that got one!  
 
I was awake since 3 am (EST)(8 am UK) with the page ready to go since I thought the Royal Mint was going online with the sale at 9 am GMT...
9 am GMT/ 4 am EST nothing...
Then I searched what time George VI actually died ... apparently 10:45 (GMT)... so I stayed awake more 2 hours... Royal Mint, nothing...
So I went to nap, refreshing the page every hour or so... at 9:34 am (EST) I am 2800 on the cue.
Result: No coin (off course) and huge headache! 🙈
Ordered a 2022 1/2 Sov Proof from Chards... not the same thing for sure, but low mintage at 4310, I will treasure it!
Whining over (for now)! 😛
F  
 

Happy for the lucky people that got one!  
 
I was awake since 3 am (EST)(8 am UK) with the page ready to go since I thought the Royal Mint was going online with the sale at 9 am GMT...
9 am GMT/ 4 am EST nothing...
Then I searched what time George VI actually died ... apparently 10:45 (GMT)... so I stayed awake more 2 hours... Royal Mint, nothing...
So I went to nap, refreshing the page every hour or so... at 9:34 am (EST) I am 2800 on the cue.
Result: No coin (off course) and huge headache! 🙈
Ordered a 2022 1/2 Sov Proof from Chards... not the same thing for sure, but low mintage at 4310, I will treasure it!
Whining over (for now)! 😛
F  
 

Happy for the lucky people that got one!  
 
I was awake since 3 am (EST)(8 am UK) with the page ready to go since I thought the Royal Mint was going online with the sale at 9 am GMT...
9 am GMT/ 4 am EST nothing...
Then I searched what time George VI actually died ... apparently 10:45 (GMT)... so I stayed awake more 2 hours... Royal Mint, nothing...
So I went to nap, refreshing the page every hour or so... at 9:34 am (EST) I am 2800 on the cue.
Result: No coin (off course) and huge headache! 🙈
Ordered a 2022 1/2 Sov Proof from Chards... not the same thing for sure, but low mintage at 4310, I will treasure it!
Whining over (for now)! 😛
F  
 

Happy for the lucky people that got one!  
 
I was awake since 3 am (EST)(8 am UK) with the page ready to go since I thought the Royal Mint was going online with the sale at 9 am GMT...
9 am GMT/ 4 am EST nothing...
Then I searched what time George VI actually died ... apparently 10:45 (GMT)... so I stayed awake more 2 hours... Royal Mint, nothing...
So I went to nap, refreshing the page every hour or so... at 9:34 am (EST) I am 2800 on the cue.
Result: No coin (off course) and huge headache! 🙈
Ordered a 2022 1/2 Sov Proof from Chards... not the same thing for sure, but low mintage at 4310, I will treasure it!
Whining over (for now)! 😛
F  
 

Happy for the lucky people that got one!  
 
I was awake since 3 am (EST)(8 am UK) with the page ready to go since I thought the Royal Mint was going online with the sale at 9 am GMT...
9 am GMT/ 4 am EST nothing...
Then I searched what time George VI actually died ... apparently 10:45 (GMT)... so I stayed awake more 2 hours... Royal Mint, nothing...
So I went to nap, refreshing the page every hour or so... at 9:34 am (EST) I am 2800 on the cue.
Result: No coin (off course) and huge headache! 🙈
Ordered a 2022 1/2 Sov Proof from Chards... not the same thing for sure, but low mintage at 4310, I will treasure it!
Whining over (for now)! 😛
F  
 

Happy for the lucky people that got one!  
 
I was awake since 3 am (EST)(8 am UK) with the page ready to go since I thought the Royal Mint was going online with the sale at 9 am GMT...
9 am GMT/ 4 am EST nothing...
Then I searched what time George VI actually died ... apparently 10:45 (GMT)... so I stayed awake more 2 hours... Royal Mint, nothing...
So I went to nap, refreshing the page every hour or so... at 9:34 am (EST) I am 2800 on the cue.
Result: No coin (off course) and huge headache! 🙈
Ordered a 2022 1/2 Sov Proof from Chards... not the same thing for sure, but low mintage at 4310, I will treasure it!
Whining over (for now)! 😛
F  
 

Happy for the lucky people that got one!  
 
I was awake since 3 am (EST)(8 am UK) with the page ready to go since I thought the Royal Mint was going online with the sale at 9 am GMT...
9 am GMT/ 4 am EST nothing...
Then I searched what time George VI actually died ... apparently 10:45 (GMT)... so I stayed awake more 2 hours... Royal Mint, nothing...
So I went to nap, refreshing the page every hour or so... at 9:34 am (EST) I am 2800 on the cue.
Result: No coin (off course) and huge headache! 🙈
Ordered a 2022 1/2 Sov Proof from Chards... not the same thing for sure, but low mintage at 4310, I will treasure it!
Whining over (for now)! 😛
F  
 

Good evening Silver Forum community,
I am a newbie in the Forum! I have been collecting coins since I was a teenager (thanks to my grandpa), getting into the silver and gold one since 2014. I would say I am more a collector than a silver/gold hoarder, although the current times may be asking for a bit of silver/gold stacking!
Happy to learn more from you and have great interactions! Have a pleasant weekend!
fmadmarq
 

Good evening Silver Forum community,
I am a newbie in the Forum! I have been collecting coins since I was a teenager (thanks to my grandpa), getting into the silver and gold one since 2014. I would say I am more a collector than a silver/gold hoarder, although the current times may be asking for a bit of silver/gold stacking!
Happy to learn more from you and have great interactions! Have a pleasant weekend!
fmadmarq