Just thinking out loud!

[JamesH]

Lovely coins. GLWS

[Toasag]

22 minutes ago, stefffana said:

@Toasag, something very interesting to read in all this thread.🤗

Lol

[stefffana]

On 28/09/2022 at 20:34, James32 said:

Hi one and all. a few things have been bothering me recently so thought I'd air them 🙂 

This is in noway an attack on any specific member, but simply an expression that hopefully unites and improves the workings of the trade section in the forum. Obviously I'm opening myself up to an outcry of backstabbing from those who find offence in my geniune attempt to improve things for both myself and every single member who makes transactions, either incoming or outgoing 😆 

Can I please make a few simple suggestions to sellers firstly.

1) describe items carefully and considerately but most importantly honestly, so buyers can make an informed decision whether to purchase or not. Stop hiding behind the "bullion bollocks" if an item is marked/toned/scratched then say so. It will save our feelings of joy being swapped for anger when we open your parcel. I can assure you and so can other fine members who list this way ( your items will still sell if priced accordingly)

2) whilst it's each individuals perogative to price how they see fit, take a second to look round the forum and gauge a realistic average? Otherwise the only thing you will be selling is "Bumps" 

3) packaging, take a second to think about the item's journey, will your coin/bar or whatever the contents survive a 5 a side at the local sorting office? I can't fathom some of the careless decisions made by sellers I've purchased from on here. Thankfully its a small number but it has cost you a repeat buyer! Can we all agree not to stick item's directly to cardboard with brown ****ing tape?? Wrap in bubble wrap or even a clean sock first, the amount of capsules I've had to replace is uncalled for.

4) feedback!! Ohh the elephant in the room has awoke, see the feedback option? Yeah maybe try using it then 🤔 the amount of people recently complaining about not receiving is quite substantial, yes we can all forget now and again, but it's what keeps us all safe at the end of the day. Also newcomers need it to get any kind of standing on the forum. ( if I owe anyone feedback that has left some for me,then just shoot a message please)

5) messages, you know the words in a box type thing, that I know you read? Respond to them out of decency if nothing else, even if it's to tell me to f#ck off.

6) have you got what your selling? Sounds obvious but apparently not. I'm not overly keen on buying items you think/hope you may be getting in. Makes you look both incompetent and risky.

7) keep buyers in the loop, do not take my/their money and ignore for days, I understand fully that postage isn't an exact science and life can kick us in the proverbial, but at least tell me if its been posted and upload tracking if ive/we've paid for it. I'm not keen on guesswork or trying to read between the lines. Most importantly tell me if my payment has been received, think how nervous a newcomer is sending money to "Jack the ripper" on the Internet?

Now I will try and see it from a sellers perspective 😆 

1) buyers ( of which I am) hopefully I've treated you with decency and respect, kept you updated with tracking/payment received etc and dispatched as fast as my timeline allows on any given day, advised in a "honest" manner whether buying from me or not. Although please realise just because you have money, you don't own me. Treat me with the same decency i afford you.

2) Be clear and concise when messaging a seller, your tying up their time ( again referring to no1) all you see is an item for sale. Well try and remember there's a human being selling it. Be polite ( thankfully 95% of buyers/seller's are) and you will find the seller might just go that extra mile 😉

3) Be a man/woman of your word?? Yes this goes without saying in life in general, but here I am feeling the need to remind people "do/mean what you say"!! Please don't tell me you will do something and then ghost me, at the very least put me out of my misery!!

4) research what you are buying and " ask yourself "can you afford it? Don't get caught up in what other people are buying, do not feel obliged to buy today out of FOMO and then have to sell tomorrow at a loss. Please for the benefit of yourself and your family have a semi coherent plan ( I know this is rich coming from someone, with the attention span of a goldfish) but I've heard/witnessed a fair few newcomers get caught out by this. Do what's right for you and you only. Otherwise you will end up bitter/in trouble financially. 

5) feedback, ohh here he goes again lol. If a seller has taken the time to ( hopefully from now on) carefully package and efficiently deliver your item safely and satisfactory, then "Yes you guessed it" then please leave feedback 😊 for me personally, it's an indication of deal complete and I can now dispose of your postage receipt, that otherwise I have to safely keep for up to a month, in fear you may tell me in a week or two you haven't received yet. 

6) be realistic/sincere with offers, I love £10/£20 off for buying in bulk as much as anyone, but being offered £350 on a item that could be scrapped for £400 minimum is an insult, yep it actually happens. 

7) pay on time or at the very least give a rough time frame for payment. Do not drag out payment for hours and hours ( unless agreed with seller in advance) then expect the seller to run to the post office as soon as the money hits their bank.

( THIS PART IS FOR THE NOISY BANTER BRIGADE ) Which I hold my hands up to being a part of 😆 

Its come to my attention that a few members have stopped/or at least thought twice about continuing to sell on the forum. I as much as anyone likes light hearted fun,  but sometimes this spills over onto sales posts, random comments can cause unfair bumping of posts and can especially lead to prospective buyers walking away. This is especially true during auctions, usually 6 pages of noise and only 2 bids, people could be excused for not knowing the current high bid or find it too exhausting to find. If we can help a sale which many of us has done ( and I will continue to do) then by all means work away, but if there's no intention to buy or cannot add value to the post, we should take our juvenile noise to the aptly named NAUGHTY BOY STEP 😉 

Anyway enough negativity, there's some amazing sellers and buyers on here, people whom I'm proud to transact with on a regular basis, people who I trust unequivocally, and whilst I've yet to experience an issue with those people/members, if I did, I just know deep down I'd be looked after. Let's all strive to be like them? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lol!😂

Start from the first page first post, @Toasag.😘

[Paul]

Has the prize 🏆🏆🏆 been drawn on this thread yet ?  @James32

( asking for a friend ) 

[HerefordBullyun]

2 minutes ago, Paul said:

Has the prize 🏆🏆🏆 been drawn on this thread yet ?  @James32

( asking for a friend ) 

Did I won?

[Paul]

1 minute ago, HerefordBullyun said:

Did I won?

Did I win? 

[SiCole]

On 28/09/2022 at 20:34, James32 said:

6) Being offered £350 on a item that could be scrapped for £400 minimum is an insult, yep Si actually does that. 

Is that a yes or a no then on all your 1/4oz tudor beasts??

[HerefordBullyun]

On 28/09/2022 at 20:34, James32 said:

, people whom I'm proud to hoover up with on a regular basis,

Dont we know it!

[James32]

Just now, HerefordBullyun said:

Dont we know it!

You're still not getting on countdown 

[HerefordBullyun]

1 minute ago, James32 said:

You're still not getting on countdown 

Not bothered Rachael O ' Reilly rather be on Bullseye so I can win a speedboat not some poxy old clock n dictionary!

[Stu]

7 hours ago, HerefordBullyun said:

Not bothered Rachael O ' Reilly rather be on Bullseye so I can win a speedboat not some poxy old clock n dictionary!

Bullseye, Jeez your living in the past mate, 3,2,1 is all the rage now mate! 

[SidS]

7 hours ago, HerefordBullyun said:

Did I won?

You wonned it yourself. 😁

[Bigmarc]

On 28/09/2022 at 20:34, James32 said:

) feedback!! Ohh the elephant in the room has awoke, see the feedback option? Yeah maybe try using it then 🤔 the amount of people recently complaining about not receiving is quite substantial, yes we can all forget now and again, but it's what keeps us all safe at the end of the day. Also newcomers need it to get any kind of standing on the forum. ( if I owe anyone feedback that has left some for me,then just shoot a message please)

Due to recent events I want to put another elephant in the room on this subject and will probably get in trouble for it (so go easy on me) but feel it should be high lighted to ensure that members are careful about the information they disclose on here. 

One one occasion I can see that a member has bought well over 50 items of bullion, I know his YouTube channel, his business name, what he looks like and what town he is from and I am far from being tech savvy and fear that anyone with some knowledge could go the extra step. The worse thing about this is that anyone can view all of this without being signed in. 

The word trust is used a lot around here but you all still have to do you own due diligence and try not become a target. I think about the information I have put on here and it makes me reluctant to purchase because of it. 

[James32]

10 minutes ago, Bigmarc said:

Due to recent events I want to put another elephant in the room on this subject and will probably get in trouble for it (so go easy on me) but feel it should be high lighted to ensure that members are careful about the information they disclose on here. 

One one occasion I can see that a member has bought well over 50 items of bullion, I know his YouTube channel, his business name, what he looks like and what town he is from and I am far from being tech savvy and fear that anyone with some knowledge could go the extra step. The worse thing about this is that anyone can view all of this without being signed in. 

The word trust is used a lot around here but you all still have to do you own due diligence and try not become a target. I think about the information I have put on here and it makes me reluctant to purchase because of it. 

Very good points.

[James32]

On 30/09/2022 at 02:59, stackerp5 said:

As a seller, I never experienced this, so I need some assistance. Call it, thinking out loud too... What to do if buyer has paid slightly over 4 weeks ago for an item, and hasn't sent me address since? Buyer has been online and active on the forum and hasn't read my messages in almost 3 weeks.

Did the buyer ever come back?

[stackerp5]

1 minute ago, James32 said:

Did the buyer ever come back?

Nope! I'm pretty sure I've sold the item forward by now, but only after multiple failed comms attempts. Did I just find a money duplication glitch? o.O

[Anteater]

Just now, stackerp5 said:

Nope! I'm pretty sure I've sold the item forward by now, but only after multiple failed comms attempts. Did I just find a money duplication glitch? o.O

If the buyer was an NPC, maybe...

[stackerp5]

19 minutes ago, Anteater said:

If the buyer was an NPC, maybe...

Maybe he was the main character, but logged off due to his quest being too hard and never came back? Rage quit?

[MrStacker]

Can someone enlighten me please about why recently the UK Buy and Sell section went through a few different phases like "Ungraded Business Seller" section and "Individual Sellers" section and now back collectively in one section again?

Personally, I liked that idea. Business Sellers tend to list multiple listings at one go and can obviously (not hating it's business) sell at a much better price than individual sellers so I thought it made sense to have seperate sections for them.

Recently, the last week or so it's been pretty competitive and dog eat dog in the ungraded section.

[Bigmarc]

3 hours ago, MrStacker said:

Can someone enlighten me please about why recently the UK Buy and Sell section went through a few different phases like "Ungraded Business Seller" section and "Individual Sellers" section and now back collectively in one section again?

Personally, I liked that idea. Business Sellers tend to list multiple listings at one go and can obviously (not hating it's business) sell at a much better price than individual sellers so I thought it made sense to have seperate sections for them.

Recently, the last week or so it's been pretty competitive and dog eat dog in the ungraded section.

There is now options in the filter drop down bit. 

[HonestMoneyGoldSilver]

14 hours ago, MrStacker said:

Can someone enlighten me please about why recently the UK Buy and Sell section went through a few different phases like "Ungraded Business Seller" section and "Individual Sellers" section and now back collectively in one section again?

Personally, I liked that idea. Business Sellers tend to list multiple listings at one go and can obviously (not hating it's business) sell at a much better price than individual sellers so I thought it made sense to have seperate sections for them.

Recently, the last week or so it's been pretty competitive and dog eat dog in the ungraded section.

The TL:DR of what happened is:

 

[HonestMoneyGoldSilver]

Excellent post btw @James32, this should be pinned and required reading

I think we trashed @Solachesis latest auctions with random memes and insider jokes that ran on for 3 pages. Hard for a random person to know what's happening and maybe too much work for others. Do we owe Sola like £15 for his sov selling under value? 

[artalien]

Jeez, butter fingers. I have a suggestion that could save a lot of grief: falling from the sales front page is a bummer so why not add a "see more" content to the bottom of it. Front page = latest listings.

Edited October 27, 2023 by artalien

[MrStacker]

Has nothing to do with a lack of effort on pressing a few more tabs to view more. Bigmarc clarified the new options added which I wasn't aware of previously.

 

Is it hard for folks to add pictures and prices to listings? 😂 I mean come on. If you are a seasoned pro seller and well trusted member on TSF then fine I get it but it really should be compulsory in the listing. Makes it easier for all.

[Gordy]

59 minutes ago, MrStacker said:

Has nothing to do with a lack of effort on pressing a few more tabs to view more. Bigmarc clarified the new options added which I wasn't aware of previously.

 

Is it hard for folks to add pictures and prices to listings? 😂 I mean come on. If you are a seasoned pro seller and well trusted member on TSF then fine I get it but it really should be compulsory in the listing. Makes it easier for all.

also..... to add, is it hard to respond to a reply, when a member asks you a question and you give them a swift reply and not even acknowledge your reply...

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