Stuntman

My wish list for 2022: 2022 bullion sovereign 2022 bullion double sovereign, assuming the RM makes it 2022 1 oz Gold Standard bullion coin, if the RM actually does make it this year 2022 10 oz Silver QB Completer coin, assuming the RM makes it Ideally a 2022 BU quintuple sovereign but I won't lose too much sleep if I cannot get one Maybe one of each of the 1 oz Gold bullion Tudor Beasts that will be released in 2022 And if these come out from the RM: A 2022 1 oz Platinum bullion coin to commemorate the Platinum Jubilee Any 1 oz Gold / 10 oz Silver bullion bars in the RM Great Engravers series, like the Una & The Lion bars released in 2021 All the above would be bought for my 'collection' rather than the stack. If I have any spare money I will buy a few more 2022 bullion sovereigns for the stack. My 'collection' is quite big and my stack is very small!

Regarding bullion sovereigns, I agree. Buy them raw, put them into your own capsules if you like (I do, and use Quadrums for them now). The RM gold bullion bars do look good in their certicards, in my opinion. I was pleasantly surprised when I bought a couple of RM bullion bars earlier this year.

Maybe 'Clive' is more into stamps (they sell these too, apparently) and can be chatted to about things that might need licking. 😉😁

"That's a lovely pair of sovereigns you have there. I love handling your sovereigns. I want to put some protection over them and then slide them into one of your lovely boxes." How am I doing? 😊

Thanks for sharing the link. The deal is still up there, and I'm in. I was always going to buy a 2022 bullion sovereign and £319 is better than I was expecting. Bought from H&B in 2019 and 2020 and still get the shiny spam. Have only ever bought current year bullion sovs from them though.

Wow. That would break my heart as well. But I bet the person who originally did it, loved it. And that's probably all that matters. Buy and enjoy whatever it is for your own purposes, rather than those of the next person who might own it. Many of us on here probably look after all the coins we currently own very carefully, whether bullion, proof or whatever. But some might think it's a bit like buying a fancy car and then not driving it very much in order to protect its resale value. So although it's not for me, fair play to those who molest their precious metal coins! (I love cars and buy them to drive fast!)

Check your Florins to see if you have any 1925 or 1932 coins. They are scarce in any grade and should be worth more than spot. 1924 and 1926 are also probably worth more than spot to a coin collector. In the same vein, check your Halfcrowns to see if you have any 1925 or 1930 coins. These are also scarce. 1924 and 1926 are also probably worth more than spot to a coin collector. In summary: 1924, 1925, 1926 and 1932 for Florins 1924, 1925, 1926 and 1930 for Halfcrowns Shillings - not so much. 1924 and 1925 again are scarcer than other years but not so much of a premium on these compared to the Florins and Halfcrowns. Nice haul, regardless!

@stefffana - much respect. Love your analogy! He may not belong to the guild of bards and poets, but I sort-of-do. I won the UK Allstars Poetry Slam in 2012 😀 @Liam84 - the coin is still lovely, even if (to quote Madonna) it may not have been touched for the very first time...

I'm not convinced that it's a proof, the strike doesn't look sharp enough to me. The toning, especially on the obverse, looks a little bright and a little flat. Might it have been dipped? (It's still a nice coin...)

More bricking, than stacking...

Well done indeed for offering him your personal admiration of his design. I'm also with you on preferring the pre-2021 coin design, other than that the shield is more sharply engraved on the newer design compared to the older design. But as noddycoder above shows - each to their own! My personal favourite is the 2018 Oriental Border Britannia. That'd be the last one I'd part with.

Perhaps see if you can do both. Stack bullion for weight, buying as well as you possibly can on price. Collect the other coins that give you pleasure of ownership, and only sell these on if you really have to. Whatever works for you is the right answer. It's not always about the money...

Some fairly niche coins there, your market is somewhat limited I would suspect. These are the sort of coins that the likes of Harrington & Byrne and/or other less-than-morally-scrupulous* mail order companies will market to people who think they are buying something collectable but in reality are unlikely to be able to sell for much, if any, premium over spot. Regarding the coin in your first two photos - TDC is Tristan Da Cunha if you didn't know that already. The Jamaica coin may have more appeal to certain collectors, I think these are generally issued in low mintages and some of them can be sought after (I'm no expert). Some of the designs are quite nice to my eyes, others much less so - and some of the things that the coins commemorate are more interesting or relevant than others. Bottom line - personally I wouldn't buy any of these at any premium over spot but then again they are not my thing and others' opinions may differ. * Obviously just my personal opinion

I presume that all of these will be proofs, but I'm hoping that at least 3 of them will be available as bullion. I'd like a gold, silver and platinum bullion version of these please.

Grade vs eye appeal is a trickier question, certainly on older coins. I'd almost always plump for say a VF coin with strong eye appeal over an EF example of the same coin with weak eye appeal (whether due to strike, toning etc). For stacking it's mostly price, since the value is wholly or mainly linked to the underlying price of the metal. But then again I 'collect' PM bullion coins rather than 'stack' them, so I tend to buy them new from reputable dealers, and then store them carefully to minimise the chance of them getting dings or nicks while they are in my care. Many of them are still just bullion rather than semi-numismatic but I'd rather have a nice-looking example than one that has a few dings, even if that's how it came from the mint. So if I receive one with a few too many scratches and dings, I tend to buy another one if I can afford it. The plan is to sell the spares once the price goes to the moon! 😃

I hope there will be enough to go round, because I won't be able to order one until Monday night at the earliest. Obviously the sets are likely to be long gone by then. Ideally I would love them to offer the proof Double Sovereign on its own. I'd definitely be in for that one.

I will definitely still buy certain gold items that I want to buy. But I will potentially try and buy on the dips (if any). I tend to set myself a budget ceiling price for a given bullion coin and then buy it once I've got the money. Occasionally I have to raise this ceiling price if the spot price keeps going up, but usually I set the ceiling price so that I have enough headroom to still buy the coin anyway if I really want it. So yes - I'll keep buying for the time being when there are new gold coins or bars I want to buy. 2022 bullion sovereigns and any special Platinum Jubilee coins are what I'm saving for.

I doubt it's a minting error. It's much more likely that someone has added the milled edge sometime after the coin left the mint. Hence 'post-mint damage', which reduces value rather than increases it from a collector perspective.

It would definitely be of numismatic interest, that one!

AFAIK - as far as I know. I've got a couple of 1860 bronze pennies so I'll just go and have a look at those and report back... Reporting back: I've checked my two 1860 pennies and my 1876 and 1889 pennies. All have a plain edge, There is also nothing in my copy of Freeman's 'The Bronze Coinage of Great Britain 1860-1970' that mentions an 1861 penny with a milled edge. Not looking good I'm afraid, it would suggest that it's 'post-mint damage'.

Loving the humour on this thread, it strikes exactly the right tone... On the coin itself - a thumbs down from me, but I do like the idea of then having it as a pocket piece. Live and let live!

I agree about halfcrowns being a good size and nice to collect too. Unfortunately for @Agaumac, 1930 halfcrowns are quite scarce but they are still cheaper than 1930 crowns grade-for-grade unless you want a 1930 halfcrown in very high grade (GEF or better). @Bruce06 - given that you are into predecimal coins and if you are looking for a George V Maundy set, the obvious year to go for would be 1933, so you can truthfully say that you own a genuine 1933 UK penny 😉 (I may have made this very purchase myself...) And gratuitous pic of my 1930 halfcrown. Not as good as my 1930 crown but still a nice coin.

Thanks @SilverJacks, really interesting to hear your perspective and I'm pleased that you are pleased with your coins. That's all that matters really! As I'm sure you know, I was being flippant and building on @ArgentSmith's comment which I thought was genuinely funny. These Pyx coins are not for me, but I'm pleased they are made available for sale and they are definitely of numismatic interest to some.

Copper Victoria pennies and halfpennies all have plain edges AFAIK.

And thank goodness your parents weren't born in 1934 and 1936... lucky escape there 😉😁