Stuntman

I found a very good document online a few years ago (attached) that had the mintages of all bullion sovereigns (just the sovereign - not the quarters, halves, doubles or quintuples) from 1817 up to and including 2015 - both for the London mint and each of the Branch mints. And the proof sovereigns from 1979 to 2013 inclusive. But nothing appears to have been published since then, and the RM are currently not choosing to release mintage figures for recent PM bullion coins of any description (where the maximum mintage was not already explicitly stated), citing commercial sensitivity. Most of us disagree with their reasoning, but unfortunately it seems to be our problem rather than theirs. Perhaps one day this will change. Sovereign mintage figures.docx

Thanks for the link. I love the size and thickness of the 10 oz silver bullion coins, and I will definitely be looking to add one of these to my collection.

Also noticed that the 10 oz silver bullion QB completer coin is also on the site as Pre-Sell. Well that's it then - my wallet is about to take a(nother) beating! 😁

So it's currently £960-ish to order one of these. Still, cheaper than gold... (and thanks for the link!)

Oooh. That is very tempting. My resistance might crumble over the next few days!

My bullion double sovereign is currently winging its way to me from the RM. I ordered it on Friday, and will collect it from the local sorting office in a few days' time (I will be at my workplace tomorrow when they attempt delivery). Looking forward to seeing the design in the metal, since I didn't order any of the proofs - and the bullion sovereign coin from H&B has yet to arrive.

At face value on those photos, the coin looks really nice. €4,000 strikes me as a high price though - although looking at the three most recent sales of UNC (or near so) examples at London Coins, perhaps the price is OK. https://www.londoncoins.co.uk/?page=Pastresults&searchterm=Two+Pounds+1823&searchtype=1 There aren't many of these available for sale in that condition at any one time, so perhaps it's worth the money to a collector. So go for it if you are happy that it's genuine and you appreciate the history and beauty of this coin.

Thanks for adding those photos. Your 1810 Third Guinea is the most special, and valuable, assuming it hasn't been molested (which it doesn't appear to have been, but do check it carefully). Nice coin 🙂 The others are worth bullion value, in my opinion.

Reversion to the mean, perhaps, for gold and silver - given that they both went up in price pretty significantly in 2020. Palladium even more so, given the last five years (ish) of price growth. Platinum remains the sleeping giant, in my opinion. I think it probably has the biggest growth potential compared to its current price level, but I have no idea what/when would cause a significant shift upwards. I hope it stays relatively cheap during 2022, given the likelihood of Platinum Jubilee coins in the metal that I would like to buy. I am also surprised that gold hasn't jumped upwards in price, given the economic conditions. But that's fine if you are still looking to buy pieces for your stack or collection. So I probably now want it to stay low-ish for another 4 years until the Tudor Beasts bullion coins and Great Engravers bullion bars have all been released and purchased... Silver - I have no idea. I have enough silver now in ETF form to benefit from any great price reset upwards, and will continue to buy the occasional 10 oz coin or bar that I like.

Nearly as big as Dom Joly's (for those of you who remember Trigger Happy TV...) 😉

In my opinion, all those bullion coins have already been announced in these proclamations, in line with what I wrote above 😉 To me, it's clear from the descriptions, based on what they state for the Reverse lettering, that there will be these bullion coins coming. The bullion coins these days always state the weight, the metal and the fineness on the coin (for example: 1/4 OZ FINE GOLD 999.9) whereas the proof coins do not. So as far as I'm concerned - they're coming, and my wallet will take a beating! 😄

So according to that Proclamation, there is definitely 1 oz gold bullion, 1/4 oz gold bullion, 10 oz silver bullion, 2 oz silver bullion and 1 oz platinum bullion versions of these Tudor Beasts coming - with the Panther first and the Lion next. My bank account is probably going to take a beating over the next few years then!

If your 1810 Third Guinea isn't holed or mounted, it may well fetch more in a specialist auction as it will be aimed at the right collectors. This link may give you some idea of value: https://www.londoncoins.co.uk/?page=Pastresults&searchterm=Third+Guinea+1810&category=9&searchtype=1 Personally I wouldn't pay a premium over bullion value for the others, based just on that photo. But some people may!

Somewhere between "oof" and a hernia 😉😁

Definitely the other way round. These coins in the annual sets will have the normal Jody Clark obverse portrait of The Queen. The special commemorative coins will get the new obverse with The Queen on horseback.

I like the Royal Arms reverse on the £5 coin. Strong hints of the Merlen design on William IV half crowns, which is a very good thing in my book. I really hope the RM releases that design in Silver, Gold and Platinum bullion versions, as well as the proofs.

I hope the do some of Jean-Baptiste Merlen's designs in the Great Engravers series. In particular, the William IV halfcrown shield and mantle design.

I've got a few friends and family members into the hobby - to the point that they now give their friends and family members things like silver Britannias and the occasional piece of gold too! Gave my godson a bunch of old predecimal coins several years ago to pique his interest. He'll get a gold sovereign when he turns 18, maybe another one at 21...

You can do whatever you like with that one as far as I'm concerned! (I'd consider sending to to Backyard Bullion so that it could be turned into something nice!) No offence intended - it's silver after all, so we like it anyway 😁

^^^ I'd love that 1705 Plumes (assuming it's a) Shilling on the cover!

@Agaumac - they still minted half crowns in 1966, cupro-nickel of course rather than silver - and it should be easy to find an example in GEF or better for under a tenner.

Regarding your price/grade dilemma, I would offer two pieces of advice: 1. Decide on the minimum level of grade that you would be happy owning such a coin in. For example, if you would be happy owning an example that had had quite a lot of circulation (say VF or lower) but was still pleasing to your eye, then that's what I mean by minimum level of grade. But if, say, you'd only be happy with one in say EF or better, that will help you select which coin or coins may be suitable. 2. Base your decision at least as much on eye appeal as on grade. For example, I would much rather own a visually pleasing example in VF grade than a less visually pleasing example in EF grade. What is visually pleasing, of course, is to some extent in the eye of the beholder! Personally I would look for a 1935 crown in GEF or better, because these are relatively easy to find and relatively inexpensive. For the Wreaths, I would decide on my minimum acceptable grade first, and then buy on eye appeal. The good news for you is that both 1930 and 1933 are less sought after than 1934, 1936 and 1932, so the prices even in EF or better are not too scary. But if you can find a visually pleasing example of each for say £250 I wouldn't be too bothered about seeking out one in higher grade if I was happy with the coin I had found. Hope it helps - and yes, my 1930 Wreath is not for sale!

Nice job - definitely an improvement! Is it pre-1920 or post? It looks to me as if it's the original effigy (1911-1926) rather than the modified effigy (1926-1936). If it's a Florin, what date? If it's 1925 it's still worth £15-ish, even after you have made it betterer 😉

The good news is that whatever you do to it, you are very unlikely to destroy any £ value in the coin. I looks a good honest circulated predecimal coin. Florin? Soak it in olive oil for a few days to start with? Most of the gunk might then come off with a toothpick (soak the toothpick in the olive oil and blunt the tip before working on the coin with it).

^^ Very nice. It's had some life, but still looks lovely. All the better actually to my eyes, for having had some circulatoin. I have an 1872 in similar grade although I'd say yours is a bit better. Die number 96: