Stuntman

I do like your cartwheel coin, but in my opinion it grades as F to GF in UK grading terms and would perhaps cost about £25-£35 if buying from a dealer. One here from a coin dealer in similar grade, asking £30, so they perhaps bought it for no more than £20: https://saltfordcoins.com/collections/pennies/products/1797-cartwheel-penny-gf The reverse of your coin is slightly better in my opinion. Keep it and love it! I have a couple of them myself.

Your other old copper coins there are 1799 halfpennies. They are very worn, so don't have much value other than being interesting items that are 225 years old. Your 1847 Victoria copper coin is a farthing. I don't know what the French copper (edit: probably bronze) coin is. The cartwheel penny is a little more worn than I had previously thought but it's still perhaps worth £20-£25 if you were to replace it. Nice bits of history...

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The 1797 cartwheel penny is probably worth about £25-£35. Unfortunately I don't think any of the other coins are worth a great deal. But they're certainly interesting. Most of the silver coloured coins are actually cupro-nickel, but it looks like you do have at least one George IV florin and perhaps a couple of your George VI florins (two shillings) are pre 1947? The other big copper coin appears to be another penny. This should have a date of either 1806 or 1807 under King George III's head, but your coin doesn't look as it has a date there. Maybe the coin has been altered post-mint. (There are a few 1808 specimens known, but these are excessively rare)

Well I've just made my first gold purchase for nearly 3 months (a 1oz coin I'd been wanting for a while, and therefore waiting to buy the dip) so it's definitely likely that the spot price will drop another £50 or so now... 😄

The streamer is still on the £5 and £2 sovereigns, so maybe the RM have decided to distinguish these two more senior coins from the more junior sovereign denominations. But otherwise I have no idea! Edit: just read the original post properly, which already made the same point! Ah well...

Second one has definitely been cleaned at some point, and I wouldn't call it 'high grade' either.

I'm going to stick my neck out here and say that although the silver and bronze predecimal coins pictured above form a fascinating collection, I don't think they amount to a lot of value above scrap silver. But that's not really the point, it's a journey through time and just think of all the people who will have used those coins to buy various things over the decades and centuries. Definitely post up what dates you have on the pennies and other bronze. But use those two websites that I linked to earlier, that will give you an idea if you have anything significant. Your toned 1887 silver coins in the cased set are very nice though and perhaps worth between £200 and £300 between them 🙂

Nice photos. Both of them are London mint coins, both look in very good condition with no obvious signs of cleaning. If you have time, post up photos of the obverses too! You might choose to sell one of them (whichever is marginally the worse in your opinion), buy a really nicely-toned 1887 sixpence of the withdrawn type, and then spend the net proceeds (£200 or so) on something that your Grandad would approve of 🙂

There's no way of knowing which of the two half sovs was originally in the case. I agree with @Britannia47 and others that the set has actually been assembled over time, rather than it being an original set as sold by the Royal Mint at the time. The 'correct' coin would be a London mint coin (that is, without a mint mark below the shield on the reverse). So if one of the coins does have a mint mark, that is the odd one out (as it were). In similar vein, the 'correct' sixpence for this set would be the Withdrawn Type (that is, the one with the shield on the reverse, not the wreath). You have some lovely coins there, regardless 🙂

Here's an example of an 1887 'Wreath' sixpence. I also have an example of the Withdrawn type, but don't have a photo of that coin. But here's an 1887 shilling with the same design - you already have one of these in your set:

The good news is that you almost certainly have two half-sovereigns (22ct gold coins). The set is missing a silver sixpence. As you may know, there are two main types of 1887 Jubilee Head sixpence. One has a shield design on the reverse (this is called the Withdrawn Type) and the other one has a wreath on the reverse with the words 'Six Pence' inside the wreath. This was issued later in the same year, because people were gilding the original sixpence and trying to pass it off as a Jubilee Head half sovereign coin (which also has a shield on the reverse, albeit of a different design). Regarding the 1887 Jubilee Head half sovereign coins, these were minted at the London, Melbourne and Sydney mints. So it's possible that your two gold coins may be from different mints. The Melbourne and Sydney mint coins have an M or an S underneath the bottom of the shield on the reverse. The London mint coins have no such mark. So it's worth checking exactly what you have!

@EvilLandlord This is worth confirming - the coin in the bottom left of the 1887 set, is this a gold coin (half sov) or a silver coin (sixpence). If gold, worth at least £250. If silver, £20-30 perhaps!

I agree with your hypothesis 🙂 Regarding the other coins - especially if there are other particular halfcrowns in the collection - have a look at these two sites, they will give you a good idea of values of particular UK predecimal coins, by denomination and year: https://www.allcoinvalues.com/united-kingdom/uk-coin-values---1801-to-1967.html https://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk/values/ And you're quite right about the (lack of) value in the Churchill/Coronation crowns. Keep one of each, give the rest away!

It appears that the 1971 receipt is just for the £2 coin, rather than the full set. Even so, £60 for 0.47 troy oz of numismatic gold seems like a steal in today's money!

The rest of it is a nice, interesting collection (1950 and 1951 proof sets, 1887 silver, maundy coins etc) although nothing there is of particularly high value. Definitely worth keeping if you find them fascinating. I'd certainly enjoy owning them.

As others have already said, the vast majority of the value resides in the 1887 set. You have gold quintuple, double, full and half sovereigns there, in high grades. Assuming the coins are genuine (the 1887 £5 and £2 are often faked, and perhaps these two coins in particular might be worth sending off for Third Party Grading if you are considering selling) - these would perhaps fetch around £6k on their own. Personally I would keep them exactly as they are and just enjoy the thrill of ownership. Only sell them if you really need the money would be my advice.

Maybe keep one or two of your favourite 1oz coins and then trade the rest for the Gillicks. Certainly the terms of the trade are very reasonable.

I think you've done pretty well there, @Sovhead. A very nice coin anyway, regardless of the price!

Yes, that's what I'd expect it would go for.

I was interested to see those Gold Standard bullion coins that don't seem to have been available to buy as retail bullion products (specifically the 1oz, 1/2 oz and 1/10 oz). I would love to buy a 1oz bullion version of that coin, but not a Trial of the Pyx one.

I think it's a blatant misdescription to call it a handwritten signature when it clearly isn't. It's a copy of a handwritten signature.

Wow! That Baldwin's coin is lovely, so if the other one was even better and on sale at a lower price... But as you probably know, 1905 shillings are sometimes faked, so you'd probably want the reassurance of buying such a coin from a reputable dealer. I have a much lower grade example but I'm still absolutely pleased to own it (and picked it up for a relatively good price):

^^^ What a coin that must have been for the right collector.

I repatriated that coin from an online coin dealer based in New Zealand! It has lovely toning and is another one of my very favourites. The obverse is nice too 🙂