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RDHC

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  1. RDHC

    Your Ugliest Coin?

    My remark was intended to refer to the unfortunate Harry and his scheming wife, but it seems to have got caught up with other material. Hugely enjoyable thread.
  2. RDHC

    Your Ugliest Coin?

    Yes indeed, truly repulsive both aesthetically and morally. Beats even the secret Stasi agent's mug (Merkel).
  3. To supplement my remark about 'softer' engraving of the details for modern sovereigns, has anyone else noticed that somehow St. George has also lost the streamers for his helmet on the 2021 sovereign and presumably for some way back. That really is cost-cutting.
  4. Yes indeed, and I am talking about gold coins. The trouble is that I am really put off by the rosy colour of contemporary sovereigns. (I also think their engraving is not as sharp as that found on pre-Elizabeth II sovereigns, perhaps because the engravers are not allowed sufficient time what with all the other work the Mint apparently demands from them - endless special issues etc.) I very much like Victorian reverse shields, but their prices remain obstinately high despite the fall in the price of bullion over the last year. Even George V sovereigns are not cheap, at least for decent quality ones i.e. Good Very Fine to Extremely Fine.
  5. I think you did pretty well with your Completer. Unfortunately for both of us, the gap between a Beast and a Britannia has now opened up so much that in terms of sheer bullion value it will be years before it becomes worthwhile to buy a Beast as opposed to a Britannia, unless you go for one of the special Britannia issues, which seem to be quite expensive. (Actually, even on purely aesthetic grounds, I prefer the standard issue, standing Britannia lady.)
  6. Fascinating, though undoubtedly quite tough going even for someone like me with a background as a historian by profession.
  7. How interesting!. I used to be the archivist of a very old institution that had amongst its manuscripts an Anglo-Saxon charter forged in the 10th century, if I remember rightly, that purported to grant to the abbey of the monks that forged it land from an Anglo-Saxon king of a century or two earlier. It looked quite convincing except to modern hand writing experts. The land never belonged to the institution and the charter had arrived there by accident in the 16th century at the dissolution of the monasteries. Just shows that forgery is as old as the hills.
  8. I think that I ought to have wished the OP every luck with his purchase, which I now do. It is a perfectly good choice, given the limited edition, even if not to my taste, which is an irrelevant consideration. I must admit that I had a rush of blood to the head earlier this summer and bought a 1oz gold Queen's Beast at what I knew was an exorbitant premium, but I went ahead anyway. It is one of the more sought after Beasts, but I am not sure that it was a wise decision. So perhaps I cannot talk about modern premium coins or bars.
  9. You write very reasonably. Of course, I have to agree that a wide choice in every field is, in theory, good; everyone to his or her own taste; it's a free market - and so on. I suppose, on the plus side, all these premium issues that have, in my opinion, an uncertain future as a store of value, may soak up some capital that might otherwise go towards pushing up the prices of the coins that I would consider worth purchasing for the long term. I am not, however, all that experienced or expert in these matters.
  10. I don't get it. In my ignorance of gold bars, and with, I'm afraid, an instinctive lack of appreciation for all these contemporary themed bits of gold ( with exceptions e.g. the Queen's Beasts have a certain timeless or at least historic quality to them, even if the actual statues date only from c. 1950), I don't understand how the addition of a meagre few words, not requiring much artistic or engraving effort, can elevate a gold bar much above mere bullion value. Perhaps I will be slated for my opinion, but there it is.
  11. Would not quarter ounce Britannias be almost as marketable as sovereigns, given the near equivalence in bullion value? And run of the mill sovereigns (I exclude the rarities etc. of course) have the disadvantage of wear and tear, whereas recent 1/4 oz Bs. ought to be in pretty decent nick. I say this particularly because, as it seems to me, the sovereigns of Queen Victoria or, say, George V, even quite ordinary ones for date etc, and of averagely acceptable grade i.e Very Fine to near Extremely Fine, are becoming unpleasantly expensive for the average purchaser. By this I mean that, despite the decline in the bullion price of gold from its 2020 highs, this sort of 'old' sovereign is apparently commanding the same kind of price now as it did then. This is merely my impression from looking at auction prices or those on ebay (for the genuine article of course in the case of the latter). I'd be very interested in the reactions of those more experienced and knowledgeable than I am to my hypothesis and impressionistic survey of prices, and I am happy to be corrected. Of course, 2021 sovereigns would be the obvious solution for people like me, but personally I am deeply disenchanted with their colour.
  12. Fascinating stuff. Poor old KGV is just bizarre. Interestingly, however, someone made a rather better fist of the reverse, until you spot the dragon's rather pathetic front claws or the lack of the blinker on the horse's eye, or the feeble sword, not to mention the strange dribble lines.
  13. Never mind the sound. Just consider the probabilities: why would anyone go to the trouble and expense of faking this particular coin? It does not show the Lion, the Griffin, or the Dragon, which are, I would think, the most sought-after beasts? And if you were a forger, why not go for broke and forge a 1oz coin with a larger profit margin? If it is a forgery, why are there not more on the market, which there don't appear to be. If the weight and dimensions are correct, it is most unlikely that you have a forgery on your hands, I submit. I would sleep easy over it.
  14. RDHC

    Die making

    Thank you very much. The engraving down load certainly illuminates the stage 4 process that puzzled me. Roger
  15. RDHC

    Die making

    Thank you, Tim. An extremely interesting article indeed. The trouble is that I got a bit lost at step 4 - 'squeezed' means what? And the thought of even a master craftsman being able to engrave directly 'into' (?'onto') the Hub or Punch is breathtaking. Roger
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