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£30 BT or PP - GOOD LUCK FOLKS!

I would like to participate - £35 via BT OR PP. 

Count me in. I have a Mystery Prize!!!!!! It is Bullion but I wont tell you all what it is yet. LOL

Great idea. Count me in. I have a starter stack so likely to be £30 PPFF/BT or a 1oz Silver coin. 
Good luck all. 

Love to do this, being new I don't have much to offer. However with there being a lot of cash prizes I will offer a chance at a mint unopened Batavia 1oz triangle bullion coin from the Royal Australian Mint being won. Really nice coin. Or £40 bank transfer. Your choice. 
Silverman20

Thanks @terakris happy buyer 😃

Thanks @ChrisSilver and the Silver Forum for my October 2020 premium members prize! 
 

First ‘new’ gold purchase for me today. Don’t really know a great deal but this seemed incredibly cheap for what it is to me 😍

Gold for svcollector, first time dealing with Chris and I'm very impressed. Great coins. 
Silver dimes from stacksellrepeat. Thanks Yas 

Hi All,
I thought it would be useful for to add a thread on gold / precious metal scams.  
There have been a few questions posted over the last year that indicate that some new forum members might be being scammed or are thinking about taking part in a "venture" that is is a scam....or worse being used to launder money.  This post can be used as a 'lookup' for new members and also for forum members to flag any scams that they have seen.
Forum members, please do flag up scams or any other advice that would be helpful to people.
Best
Dicker
 
The "Hook"
A gold scam is the same as any other scam - someone is trying to entice you into parting with your money for a product that does not exist and you will never receive.The 'hook' to catch your interest is often the prospect of making significant money by buying gold at a discount.  Margins on PM's are tight and you will find that even miners in remote regions of third world countries know the price of gold!
 
Types of Scams
Financing the importation of gold - Where there is a spurious source i.e. Gold looted from from Saddam, Gadaffi, ISIS, a corrupt mine manager etc  Financing the purchase and sale of gold in another country  - You are invited to fund the purchase and sale of gold using a bogus tax scheme - you are supposed to get the profits when the deal is completed Buying gold dust - "left over" from a mine crusher, smelting plant etc Buying from an fraudulent online dealer - Who has just setup shop and is selling gold at a deep discount Buying from a corrupt politician / government employee - Who just happens to have access to a load of gold Tax avoidance - Funding the purchase and sale of PM's across different tax jurisdictions with you taking a cut of the profits My client wants to buy a lot of gold - Or a bullion dealer, or a refinery.  This is essentially where a victim has been "won over" by a scammer and is then being used to scam others.  We had an example on this forum a while ago where a member was enquiring about buying vast quantities of gold (central bank quantities) or a large refinery...  I think in the end the forum member left, still thinking that we were wrong and she was had a client who wanted that quantity of gold..... Money laundering - You are used to move money around using your bank account (private or company), on the premise you are dealing gold, whereas you are moving money that comes from the proceeds of crime (mostly drugs)  
No one would fall for that right?
Sadly people do, and more frequently than people think - especially senior citizens.  Many scams are extremely elaborate, well planned and well financed, with months or years in the making.
Sending a sample as a 'convincer' - To convince a victim that they are genuine, it is not unknown (but not common) for a scammer to send a sample of gold to a victim for testing.  "Keep the 1/10th ounce sample, we have lots more......" More common is a video or documentary evidence of gold being tested with a piece of paper with your name on.  The gold may be real or may be totally fake, but you won't know Most frequently, stock photos of gold seem to be used as part of scam - using Google Image Search or Tineye is good for searching for the picture to see if it has been used elsewhere Pushy People - Frequently scammers are pushy, with a time frame and deadline put in place to pressurise you to handover cash Scammers are not necessarily pushy, and are willing to play the long game - for example selling a victim 2oz gold at 30% under spot, then waiting for the victim to say - lets do it again with 30oz's Documentation and Websites - Are sometimes surprisingly well put together, and enough to fool a non-expert Wire Transfer - Having a BIC Code and asking for payment by SWIFT MT103 dent mean the recipient is genuine  
Spotting Scams
Stranger danger - The majority of fraud against an individual is carried out by someone not known to them (but there are of course exceptions) Too good to be true - buying PM's significantly under spot doesn't happen - the market is too 'tight' with margins and pricing to match.  (Check the Forum Sale section - you are lucky if you can buy gold for Spot!) Dubious legality - Some scams purport to be close to the law, or in breach or it in order to make money, or someone says they have found a 'loophole'.  Example smuggling gold to avoid tax, claiming tax rebates on gold in another country Urban Legends - Were you hear of gold discovered and belonging to Gadaffi, Hitler, Saddam, that was left in a bank or looted only to be found by the scammer Government Involvement - The person you are dealing with purports to be a government minister, judge, central bank officer - they will not be, even in very non-democratic countries Payment by Western Union, Moneygram - these are immediate red flags.  Both of these companies have implemented checks for 419 scams (sending cash to West Africa and elsewhere) but it remains essentially an anonymous way to receive funds  Cash - To date, all of the scams that I have seen have involved the victim sending cash (physical or by wire) rather than precious metals, but this may not always be the case Google is your friend - Google the name of the company and the person you are dealing with - it doesn't take long to find that (or example) Judge Thomas Mensa of Ghana is in fact deceased, and not in possession of $USD20 million of gold he wants to sell to you at a discount (Mail I received last week...) Your personal information - Scammers often want your personal details ASAP The location of the scammer - From what I have seen (and I appreciate this is anecdotal) a large proportion of the gold scams originate from West Africa, and particularly from countries where 419 Fraud is common  
The following is a good watch and explains why people get caught out and then cannot stop funding a gold scam.   
 

All good. Thanks for asking. 
Just been REALLY busy lately with work and gome stuff, i doubt i could have ran it smoothly this time !

I got a Buy alert from my IG spreadbetting account on Monday when Gold hit $1850 and a support region confluenced with a 150 day EMA.
No funds in it to open a trade, so ended up loading the CC to buy some of these little ladies.

@MancunianStacker I am way ahead of you. Before I posted this thread I have ordered and installed the following items to replace my front and rear old flood light system and door bell. Ring Floodlight Cam and Ring doorbell third generation. @Mox I have had a little upgrade in my security system since you last paid a visit everything stored and saved in the cloud ready and available to be provided to law enforcement. I have also purchased a bow and arrow and have been practicing every weekend and have become an ace shoot. Feel free to drop by anytime pal .

I'm in as usual too.
I'll put these towards my prize gift...
1) A 2018 Silver Proof Snowman - because its Christmas afterall... (another one for 2020 being released very shortly i think) &
2) A 2018 Silver Proof 10p N is for NHS - because its timely....

Nice one @Abyss , Awesome effort. Well done sticking to your plan!
Whats next? LOL

I got a Buy alert from my IG spreadbetting account on Monday when Gold hit $1850 and a support region confluenced with a 150 day EMA.
No funds in it to open a trade, so ended up loading the CC to buy some of these little ladies.

Nice one @Abyss , Awesome effort. Well done sticking to your plan!
Whats next? LOL

Many thanks to @StBeesSilver @ApolloMetalworx and Emptyo metals for these 😱

Received recently :  3 coins
1- Austria-Hungary 20 Francs /8 Forint 1890 - features an eagle , from Fiume region , only present on some 1890 1891 & 1892.

 

 
2- Kingdom of Serbs , Croats and Slovenians ( a brief kindgom preceding Yugoslavia)  20 Dinara 1925 


 
3- 10 Francs - Switzerland - 1922 
 

This overly frustrating acquisition arrived...2020 End of World War II 75th Anniversary American Eagle Silver Proof Coin.




And the returned Pay Attention 007 2020 UK Quarter-Ounce Gold Proof, second coin has arrived to close out the series.



The complete James Bond series...tribute to Sean Connery, the one true 007!

Thanks to @Troy77 for this masterpiece 💫😁

Nice little piece of history , thanks @AndrewSL76 😊

Received last week. Lovely 2017 SOTD Platinum Anniversary Sov to go with the 2017 Anniversary’s 
Many thanks to @terakris

This is most definitely my new favourite. Massive props to @StBeesSilver for this one. After being inspired by @Jamesd’s marvel weapons I thought it would be amazing to have a Black Panther mask boy did it exceed my expectations. Loved the pics but its even better in the flesh!

I got a Buy alert from my IG spreadbetting account on Monday when Gold hit $1850 and a support region confluenced with a 150 day EMA.
No funds in it to open a trade, so ended up loading the CC to buy some of these little ladies.