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28 minutes ago, Foster88 said:

I’m waiting for this rare 1889 Melbourne mint Jubilee sovereign to arrive early this week.

Graded AU53 by PCGS and rated R3 by Marsh with a relatively small mintage of just 54,652 being the 1st Variety. It is also just one of 15 graded by PCGS.

 

 

Nice find foster! Down the rabbit hole now trying to find the others!

Hattongardenmetals currently offer 8 months free storage. After several purchases over several months you just pay a single post fee to have them delivered

I never got calls from them but did get flooded with the postal ‘offers’ at least two a week despite ticking the no marketing preference on the website. Called and emailed asking them to stop, they even tracked me when I moved house and started sending junk there! Only a final written gdpr letter got them to stop. I agree with Roy it’s not worth it for £11. The junk mail wouldn’t be half as bad if it didn’t basically advertise what you’d been buying

Trading and buying off the internet is where the value of grading comes into it for me. You know from a grade it’s of a certain standard. I’m mainly a collector of older coins, those that have photographed coins themselves know it’s easy to make a good coin look bad or vice versa depending on the angle and lighting. Cleaning lines can be hard to see on many online photos unless they are harsh, having it hand and rotate it against a fixed light source is ideal but not feasible on the internet. Buying graded you typically know what you’re getting

AU55 1879

I think they’ve just become inactive or don’t update their website anymore. Another thread here

Wow just wow
 

https://www.biddr.com/auctions/mdcmonaco/browse?a=1285&l=1362546

some other fantastic coins in this auction too

It’s not my area of expertise but I found the bbc link interesting, some here are much more knowledgeable

Obviously the price of the old stuff has risen, and buying this years bottled stuff could take many years if not decades to show similar gains if at all.

Something might interest this thread

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-54040307

Nice one @Stuart7

Nice @Drdandoom

Congrats @Troy77 

I think most traders have finally realised they should short the rallies based on a trump tweet too!

9 minutes ago, Wonger said:

Still holding Gold shorts, added to tanker longs and shorted WTI Friday afternoon, WTI is going to collapse Monday!

Could be right about oil

https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/after-record-rally-oil-faces-collapse-new-feud-erupts-between-saudis-and-russia-monday-opec

5 hours ago, cinereus said:

Can I ask how you're finding the new links? They aren't listed anywhere on the site not even if you spider the sitemap.

And you can't simply iterate through the URLs either...

Use the search button at the top and type sovereign, the resulting page gives the active links with frankly overpriced rubbish but the standard sovereign should be there.

What do you make of this? Some familiar names popping up.

https://www.trouw.nl/economie/klanten-van-abn-amro-moeten-hun-goud-verkopen~b668b850/

Using google translate:

ABN Amro customers must sell their gold

ABN Amro customers will no longer be able to put their money into physical gold, silver or platinum. The bank will discontinue these three investment products next Friday. Customers will have to sell their positions before April 1. If that does not happen, ABN Amro will do this for them at the prevailing price.

This concerns about 2,000 customers of ABN Amro's private banking departments (private banking and retail). This may also include companies or other legal structures. They have "weight bills" with gold and platinum in grams and silver in pounds.

The fact that ABN Amro will stop using these investment products has to do with changes in 2013. Until then, ABN Amro offered precious metals through Deutsche Bank. Those who had such an investment product could actually get the physical gold delivered through Deutsche Bank.

But Deutsche Bank discontinued this service. ABN Amro transferred the precious metal trade to the Swiss bank UBS. At UBS, however, it was not possible for customers to actually request the gold or silver.

Additional regulations
Because the physical delivery of precious metals is not possible, a precious metal purchased through ABN Amro is not a “direct investment”. Because it is a complex product, ABN Amro must comply with additional regulations. Those rules for European financial markets have been tightened.

“Given the limited size of the invested capital in these instruments and the small customer group that purchase them,” ABN Amro prefers to stop. Customers can buy shares in gold companies, the bank suggests.

When ABN Amro sells the gold, silver or platinum for its customers, this is done without transaction costs. The bank transfers the proceeds to the customer's cash account. "We cannot guarantee that this sale will take place at a favorable rate," ABN wrote in the letter informing customers several months ago.

For those who have not yet done so, it is no longer such a favorable time to sell gold. The price has fallen significantly in the past month, reflecting the corona crisis that is causing major stock market and economic shocks.

The cancellation of these accounts by ABN Amro brings to an end a history that goes back to the establishment of the Hollandsche Bank Unie (HBU) in 1914, writes gold trading company Aunexum in retrospect.

The HBU took care of the trade in gold and other precious metal at the Coolsingel in Rotterdam. In 1967 ABN acquired all the shares of this bank. Anyone who invested in precious metal at ABN Amro knew that the gold or silver was kept in the HBU safes. When ABN Amro merged with Fortis in 2009, HBU was sold to Deutsche Bank. After that, customers were able to request the gold from their account for another four years and put it in the safe at home.

Ah. Maybe sold out at that price. Maybe this is the newest price link

https://harringtonandbyrne.co.uk/2020-united-kingdom-gold-uncirculated-sovereign-4220.html

The £309 worked for me last night but also won’t let me add to basket. The one above works, for now

6 minutes ago, Darr3nG said:

Tried this previously... won't let you add any to basket

6 minutes ago, Darr3nG said:

Tried this previously... won't let you add any to basket

Not sure how long their supply will last

https://harringtonandbyrne.co.uk/2020-united-kingdom-gold-uncirculated-sovereign-4212.html

Here’s a reliable seller

https://britannia-coins.co.uk/shop?olsPage=products

Good old h and b under spot again free delivery. Can order only one this time though

https://harringtonandbyrne.co.uk/2020-united-kingdom-gold-uncirculated-sovereign-4212.html

Gibralter, Alderney, Liberia a few una and the lion replicas have been released over the years. I wouldn’t put it past the RM to do an Una SOTD or something similar like the seem to be doing with the rest of the moderns and dilute the collectibility.  

1 hour ago, ilovesilverireallydo said:

Honestly you should see the volume of both gold and silver being melted down daily. 
 

one guy melted 300 sovereign yesterday 

What would be the point in melting sovereigns? Old Jewellery I can understand

Just now, Darr3nG said:

Python with BeautifulSoup

Excellent that’s what I learnt. Good job well done!