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Removing the 1p coin would create absolute chaos in the retail industry. 
They'd have to start selling products for £20.00, instead of £19.99.  And there's no way I'm paying £20 for something I could have bought for £19.99 last week.  Bloody inflation.
 

It really quite clear and simple, gold may go up or down in both the short term and long term because "reasons" - there, hope it makes things a bit clearer for you. 
Same as crypto youtube pundits every video & prediction 

There is a website for Amazon products called camelcamelcamel. You can search the item listings unique code and it will show you the price over time of that specific listing eg if one brings out a new product and to get it off the ground, sells 50 at £9.99 then increases the price to £24.99 all the feedback and sales are true and genuine. If stock was running out and a new delivery was a week away one could increase the price to £49.99 and this website would show it. 

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They always pay asking price with no haggling, and pay very very quickly.
 

Hi Johny,
Just my thoughts and of course everyone is different in their outlook and thoughts.
(1) I buy to hold - pretty much most things (including metals) are bought for the long term i.e. to keep for 10+ years.  
(2) Personally, I don't subscribe to conspiracy theories around bankrupting everyone deliberately.  Having worked in Investment Banking for 20+ years, I can confidently tell you that they are very much less organised and planed than you would ever believe, I understand the same is true for most governments who they advise.
(3) Markets go up and down and it is hard to predict what they will do - its a gamble.  I assume you are talking about Robert Kiyosaki who has been pumping out PR about market crashes.  I haven't looked to see if he is promoting a new book or product, but do remember that this 'wizard' has had a couple of companies go bankrupt under his ownership.  He now specialises in telling people how to make money......as his career. 
(4) I think everyone really needs to do their own education and research around investment decisions.  The same research department / commentators can (and often do) predict a bull and bear market in the same WEEK!  People on social media etc often have an agenda - I ignore this and look at broad market fundamentals
Best
Dicker

Good man, thoughts and opinions is what makes this forum tick. Not all of us wish to read 3000 posts of the three graces.

Yes to both.
I used to try and purchase lots with the larger coins (maybe not always the best sense as they can go higher than spot), but they are the better way of accumulating silver. Avoid threepences, they're just fiddly, annoying and lose a lot of their weight very quickly. If buying threepences buy on weight, not on face value (same could be said of others).
I'd also say know a little about the coin market too. It's getting harder to do. But say there's three Victorian crowns for sale on eBay, £25 each (ha yeah... right so cheap!) - 1887, 1888 and 1889. Know which order to buy them in. The 1888 would be my first choice (it's the rarer of the three), the 1887 would be my second (probably the best grader of the three), the 1889s are ten a penny. Highest mintage.
Also when coming to sell be bluntly honest, show the lots weight, tell them what's in it (I often list the dates and denominations). If some of the coins look awful, I actually state that they are dreadful, if some look great then maybe a separate photo of that one.
You'd be surprised how often playing on a coins weaknesses can actually get the thing sold.
I once acquired a fake Morgan dollar in a bulk silver buy from the States. It looked God awful, it was clearly fake to my eyes. I didn't complain or send it back as I'd got a good deal on all the other coins, but I knew I wasn't keeping it.
So I bundled it into a group of low grade and damaged silver culls, and put it up for sale on eBay. I stressed clearly that it was the most hideous and horrendous fake coin I had ever seen and that if it was genuine I'd go to the bottom of our stairs and eat my hat. Well I was inundated with questions from potential buyers who kept asking 'Are you sure it's fake? It could be genuine you know.' I'm like, no it is fake, so buy it as such.
The lot made a decent profit, more than I expected.
So being honest, brutally if required, seems to work.

Thank you @Roy 
happy to give some info. My own interest in Pt & then Pd was part of a collectible aim to build an element collection. This predates my interest in Sovereigns or gold & before I found TSF 
palladium, Platinum & Rhodium are all used in catalytic converters. They are excellent catalysts (they aid a chemical reaction without being changed themselves) & in this case they are being used to convert CO (carbon monoxide) to CO2 and also to reduce nitrous oxide in the latest versions of ICE engines. Some of you will have diesel Ad Blu engines & the Adblu reacts with NOx ( nitrous oxide ) to create Nitrogen & water. Both harmless 
so it’s not Pd or Pt. both have roles. 
 
I have collected both since 2014. Pt has traded in a range without breakout & has been consistently close to where I bought in terms of £. Pd quadrupled to over £2100 an ounce & today sits at £1500. Of course this is before , bid /ask spread & vat. 
 
I think it’s very difficult to make ££ with Pd or Pt because if you want to exit you need to find someone who wants to pay in a similar way to when you bought or a dealer will only offer you spot-3% . It has to move a lot before your very good 15% premium buy is in a tradeable profit. I myself have bought several Pt pieces that the seller says were priced below. I collect Pt too as Roy & others know but it’s an intrinsic interest in elements & now coins. I have some Pt, Pt & Rhodium & if someone wanted some I would sell for a premium above spot but I haven’t sold any cos no one is looking & my interest is acquiring. I bought two pieces of Pd on TSF & they are great. 
 
Physically Pd is grey, whereas Pt is more silver like. Pd is harder too & therefore more difficult to make as a coin. I have an MS70 & a PF69 & they are outstanding. 
 
finally Rhodium. Rh is a great catalyst & is not mined for itself. It’s found in the extraction process for other metals. Rhodium hit $12k an ounce about 13 years ago before falling dramatically back to $1000 or so only months later. Thinking that there must be something in this great element I bought 5 Oz. The price to $26k an ounce in Feb this year before dropping back to $15k or so where it sits to day. I was very lucky. I don’t think anyone can make £ out of Rh today as the bid / ask is big, there is vat & the market is tiny. But for me I own a few small pieces of one of the rarest elements on Earth. The total sum of Rh ever refined would fill 3 small sheds. 
 
Hope this is of interest and here is a pic of the set of these amazing elements in the next post 
Good luck Clive 
 
 

Gold is expensive and platinum is cheap, but the main move came from platinum and it's relationship to palladium.
Palladium shot up and is the new platinum now. So what used to be platinum > gold > silver has become palladium > gold > silver, with platinum as the odd one out.

hey everyone these are my homemade coins that are made from 999 silver some weights vary between 2.9 to 3.1 grams I've used the old medieval way to make them the hammered style to bring the medieval feel to the modern times. as you can see i've added the Nottingham castle to represent my home city of Nottingham. whats everyone thoughts on them any advice is welcomed 

That sir is the $100 billion question!

If someone could accurately predict that, they'd be wealthy. For me personally there are too many variables to try and assess which way this will likely go. However I'd say if the market crashes, PMs will take a hit again as investments are liquidated to cover losses.

The reason I say there are too many variables, is that over the last 20 months more FIAT debt has been created globally than at any other time in history. So the world is in a very different place it was in March 2020. 

If you're into silver for the long term, I'd just look to keep DCA'ing and accumulate silver regardless. That way, if it crashes, you hold on and allow it to rise out the other side, and if you have the ability you can add to your position, and if it doesn't, you've accumulated some holdings prior to it increasing pass a point that you can afford. 
A lot of long term silver bugs/gurus will state that you don't get into silver to make you millions. You get into physical silver to hedge against inflation and bank collapses in the future and to protect your wealth.

Hope that helps.

Awww I missed out on it 🤣

I know, they are damaged coins now, but my son loves experiments, especially since he got chemistry lessons in school. So i took two of my many milkspotted completers of my stack and wanted to show him, how reactive silver is and give this coins a "rainbow" toning. Not possible, to show all the colors you can see from different directions now, it looks more like a blue/purple/orange/gold/red Opal, than like a rainbow. After 30 minutes in a Tupper with an egg, the milkspot on the greyhounds nose still visible, so we will not get rid of them in hundred years. But the coins reacted very different. And no, i don't like selfmade "rainbow patina".

https://youtu.be/A0mBAsIPS1w    gotta say I love Bill Hicks and also I'm not so great at tech if this link works its a miracle 🙂 wish me luck 

so decided to take the plunge earlier than intended 😀
registration paper work going in 

and its Shiny!!!!!

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This guy has been a go to for me for a while. If you can get past the prancing around Infront of the camera and follow the way he sees the markets it's generally a good source for me. For quiet some time he has been saying that inflation will be hidden in energy and various events that will push up prices. Looking at what is happening around us now it's astonishing. I've got that concerned over it I've told the missus to do her Christmas shopping now. Yet the pm market is un affected. 
Edit.
I told the missus "we" should do "our" Christmas shopping now. 😁 
Edit again.
I politely asked my partner "do you think we should do our Christmas shopping now"

Partly as an update, and partly because some TSF members were voicing concern a month or two ago, about whether any more one ounce gold bullion QB Completers would be produced, and reach the UK market, I asked for some "bulk" photos. These got forgotten a few times because we have been busy, but finally managed to get some shots:

A stack of 100, all actually very carefully placed to avoid damage, even though it looks like a casual stack.
And...
A partial failure:

This was intended to be a 10 x 10 grid of them.
We could have been lazy, just laid them on a flat surface, and taken one shot, but Doug likes to do things right, so he and a colleague set out to photograph 100 different coins individually, then add them, in Photoshop, to one single composite image.
Adobe Photoshop is quite resource hungry, and started metaphorically groaning and complaining as the file size grew, so Doug started reducing the file size as he went along, but this is as far as he got, before Adobe downed tools and went home sulking. Tomorrow he is going to try again. He will probably have to create a larger "scratch disk", probably on a PC with a large SSD drive.
This helps to explain why there is an obvious blank area on the canvas. 53 down, 47 to go! 😎
 

Here's a couple more, both from the same seller:
koala, fakebullion.com
kangaroo, fakebullion.com
 
fakebullion.com is very useful! I'm not sure if it is still maintained and updated? I note pretty well all the silver fakes are plated brass so would fail the magnet test (most are off in dimensions and/or weight too, for the same reason). Silver plated copper would be much harder to detect. I don't know if it is not used much, or whether they just tend to go undetected?

I completely agree with you. I managed to complete my collection of 2oz kooks earlier this year and it took me about 3 years to complete as I only purchased them via the silver forum. Lovely chunky coins to hold and with each year having a different design gives you a bit of variety too look at. I have also managed to collect a full date run of the 1oz bullion kooks (from 1990 to present) which are also pretty nice and again good fun to track down.
I also completed the 2oz bullion queens beast as they just came out when I started collecting and that was fun for a while but I was losing interest as most of the coins started to show signs of milk spotting. That's one of the great things about the kooks. I have never seen any milk spots just the expected toning and tarnishing.

Collecting and waiting for Queen's Beasts, then finally finishing them is leaving an empty spot and a definite itch.
Lunars have the advantage that it is very few buys.
The Libertad idea is tempting, but I could blow an enormous amount of money on that, especially because they are only a mouse click away:

A date run of quarter ounce gold trade coins would be closer to spot...

2 oz Kooks 55 mm in diameter! I never even knew such a thing existed, and now I need them all 🙄
 
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Like the OP, 2 oz silver QBs got me hooked. Nearly done there, so it will be Kooks going forward, just 'standard' (no privy or restrikes) first. I just find them very attractive (and so does wife, which means I don't have to hide quite so many......)