Found an old Sovereign advert.

[ilovesilverireallydo]

£80 for a full 2002 shield???? Eek. I want 2dozen at that price.

[Chrisplym]

Wow! Bargain 😊

[Organics]

“If only we knew then, what we know now” 🙏

[modofantasma]

A sheet of 20 for £1540 too 

[Organics]

In 20 years time will we be looking back and saying the exact same thing 🤔

[Leonmarsh]

21 minutes ago, Organics said:

In 20 years time will we be looking back and saying the exact same thing 🤔

Personally I don't think so the golden generation have had their time that will never be repeated 

Houses bought at buttons, council houses people bought making them home owners, company stocks, shares and pensions have all lead to a very wealthy above 60 generation 

The new generation 35 plus have been blighted with many things financially and will never see the wealth of their parents unfortunately 

Why is this relevant because if a sov went up x 5 in 20 years like houses, like pensions, it would £2k a sov 

Who the hell is gonna buy it and therefore price will be subdued 

[Leonmarsh]

As my 70 year old mum sits there and quaffs on a prosecco having come back from her third cruise And £4,000 a month pension with her house paid for she then gets a letter, here is your winter fuel payment lol 🤣 to keep you warm. 

Keep her warm? She could fuel her house on the million pairs of bon marche high waisted trousers she has 

https://www.charteredbanker.com/resource_listing//the-legacy-and-responsibility-of-our-golden-generation.html

[Petra]

There’s people on here who have bought sovereigns if not as cheep, then close to! Don’t start on here again how things were cheap and easy to get years ago. The three bedroom house I bought at £30,000 was at the maximum we could afford and there wasn’t a lot of spare cash knocking around. Stocks and shares etc. ….. well everything was well financed with interest rates well in double figures🤔😮 
 

Bit like knocking my dad for say he could have an amazing night out for ‘10 bob’ …. wages were c**p🤔

2 minutes ago, Leonmarsh said:

As my 70 year old mum sits there and quaffs on a prosecco having come back from her third cruise And £4,000 a month pension with her house paid for she then gets a letter, here is your winter fuel payment lol 🤣 to keep you warm. 

Keep her warm? She could fuel her house on the million pairs of bon marche high waisted trousers she has 

https://www.charteredbanker.com/resource_listing//the-legacy-and-responsibility-of-our-golden-generation.html

Obviously you come from a wealthy family… not all in that position 

[Leonmarsh]

1 minute ago, Petra said:

There’s people on here who have bought sovereigns if not as cheep, then close to! Don’t start on here again how things were cheap and easy to get years ago. The three bedroom house I bought at £30,000 was at the maximum we could afford and there wasn’t a lot of spare cash knocking around. Stocks and shares etc. ….. well everything was well financed with interest rates well in double figures🤔😮 
 

Bit like knocking my dad for say he could have an amazing night out for ‘10 bob’ …. wages were c**p🤔

Obviously you come from a wealthy family… not all in that position 

How much is your house worth now and when did you buy it before I do a mic drop 

[Leonmarsh]

5 minutes ago, Leonmarsh said:

How much is your house worth now and when did you buy it before I do a mic drop 

It's not another ones of those one comments and leave is it @Petra interesting, unusual can I have more pics, if only it didn't have a scratch, type thing 

 

[Coverte]

1 hour ago, Organics said:

In 20 years time will we be looking back and saying the exact same thing 🤔

Or just look back 12 years when Bitcoin was $5 and a few cents................

[Leonmarsh]

6 minutes ago, Coverte said:

Or just look back 12 years when Bitcoin was $5 and a few cents................

You can't have bitcoin in any serious conversation really, again another mic drop without googling please answer 

What is a bitcoin? 

[AdamDutton]

Printing of money and QE has lead to asset prices being so high which has created a massive wealth divide. 

[Leonmarsh]

42 minutes ago, Leonmarsh said:

How much is your house worth now and when did you buy it before I do a mic drop 

So seeing as Petras gone AWOL 

Say Petra bought the house in 2000 at £30,000 and is now worth 300,000 

23 years later in 2047 at the same growth rate the house would be worth £3 million 

Meaning in 20 years all of us would have to be multi multi millionaires to afford a 3 bed semi 

Not happening 

Edited February 13 by Leonmarsh

[Coverte]

3 minutes ago, Leonmarsh said:

You can't have bitcoin in any serious conversation really, again another mic drop without googling please answer 

What is a bitcoin? 

I think it best to leave you here to argue with yourself.

[Leonmarsh]

In terms of wages 

Average wage 2000 -£18,000

Average wage today - £35,000

So wages would be £70,000 average in 2047 and house £3 million if history repeats itself 

Thats no accounting for the arse falling out of pensions, company stocks and shares, British steel and so on 

1 minute ago, Coverte said:

I think it best to leave you here to argue with yourself.

You couldn't answer the bitcoin question which is ok I don't know what it is either no one does really do they 😭

[SovereignBull]

12 minutes ago, Leonmarsh said:

You can't have bitcoin in any serious conversation really, again another mic drop without googling please answer 

What is a bitcoin? 

Not sure what the answer is here but Crypto if done right (I’m talking investing months worth of hours and research), if lucky and if there at the right time can turn £20 into £60,000.00 in under a week! I’ve been there and experienced it! I can’t think of any other investment where these sorts of profit. But take this with a big warning, it’s extremely bad for your mental health and will leave you drained!

[Leonmarsh]

3 minutes ago, SovereignBull said:

Not sure what the answer is here but Crypto if done right (I’m talking investing months worth of hours and research), if lucky and if there at the right time can turn £20 into £60,000.00 in under a week! I’ve been there and experienced it! I can’t think of any other investment where these sorts of profit. But take this with a big warning, it’s extremely bad for your mental health and will leave you drained!

Couldnt agree more it's the best gamble of a decade literally make you a millionaire within a decade of you got in early wish I had 

But realistically it is a gamble, online gambling nothing more or less 

 

[Leonmarsh]

https://youtube.com/shorts/jP8wCKbGuaY?si=LyoavhpFZylsR02T

No idea buts or maybes, just absolutes 

Edited February 13 by Leonmarsh

[SovereignBull]

16 minutes ago, Leonmarsh said:

Couldnt agree more it's the best gamble of a decade literally make you a millionaire within a decade of you got in early wish I had 

But realistically it is a gamble, online gambling nothing more or less 

 

Hmmm I disagree a bit with the gambling and having to be in early as in years ago when BTC was new.

I’ll give a brief rundown of my experience and how I made money.

1. Bought a token called Avax

2. Bought & sold NFTs on the Avax ecosystem. Learnt how to buy using code instead of relying on the mint button, made good, good money and in some cases would turn £50 to £1500 in less than a day! I still suffered the odd loss but mostly made money.

3. Became a social media information monster & over a period of 2 years connected with everyone within the Avax ecosystem. To the point where my tweets on X or posts on discord would actually create FOMO and influence buys and sells of certain NFTs

4. Learnt who were the good people & who were true to their word.

5. One of The Blue chip NFT projects stood out a mile and the founders of these projects (who I had grown to know well over my 2 year period on socials) decided to launch a meme token.

6. I was there at the right time for the token launch, knew how to buy using the correct methods to ensure my buys would go through in the frenzy of buying and then watched the price sky rocket! This was December last year!

All of the above involved hours glued to my phone, keeping up with the socials, chart watching, buying/selling etc

If you’re prepared to put the time in, stay glued to your phone, sacrifice family time and endure stress at the highest level you can make big money even now. 

I am no longer prepared to do that! I may do so again if the wife keeps insisting on 2/3 holidays a year but for me my time in crypto is over.

Never felt like a gamble just lots & lots of hard work.

im a lot happier buying shiny coins! 😊

 

Edited February 13 by SovereignBull

[Leonmarsh]

1 minute ago, SovereignBull said:

Hmmm I disagree a bit with the gambling and have to be in earl as in years ago when BTC was new.

I’ll give a brief rundown of my experience and how I made money.

1. Bought a token called Avax

2. Bought & sold NFTs on the Avax ecosystem. Learnt how to buy using code instead of relying on the mint button, made good, good money and in some cases would turn £50 to £1500 in less than a day! I still suffered the odd loss but mostly made money.

3. Became a social media information monster & over a period of 2 years connected with everyone within the Avax ecosystem. To the point where my tweets on X or posts on discord would actually create FOMO and influence buys and sells of certain NFTs

4. Learnt who were the good people & who were true to their word.

5. One of The Blue chip NFT projects stood out a mile and the founders of these projects (who I had grown to know well over my 2 year period on socials) decided to launch a meme token.

6. I was there at the right time for the token launch, knew how to buy using the correct methods to ensure my buys would go through in the frenzy of buying and then watched the price sky rocket! This was December last year!

All of the above involved hours glued to my phone, keeping up with the socials, chart watching, buying/selling etc

If you’re prepared to put the time in, stay glued to your phone, sacrifice family time and endure stress at the highest level you can make big money even now. 

I am no longer prepared to do that! I may do so again if the wife keeps insisting on 2/3 holidays a year but for me my time in crypto is over.

Never felt like a gamble just lots & lots of hard work.

im a lot happier buying shiny coins! 😊

 

Genuine question if you had some much success as a social media fomo monster and key to a blue chip nft what you doing here ? 

Not taking the Mick just curious why your not sat on a beach somewhere I would be with that track record and success 

 

[SovereignBull]

Just now, Leonmarsh said:

Genuine question if you had some much success as a social media fomo monster and key to a blue chip nft what you doing here ? 

Not taking the Mick just curious why your not sat on a beach somewhere I would be with that track record and success 

 

It was unbelievably stressful and time consuming. I’m talking one big win after 2 years of work which when you look at it that way isn’t loads.

I never had a lot of money to invest at the time. Probably at most about £100 a month.

Bluechip NFTs on avax were not like the bored ape projects on eth (The best avax ones traded around £3000 at Ath)

However that £100 a month used for buying and selling NFTs allowed for Greek holidays, secondhand cars for the kids, car repair bills (there were many) and many other high value items that I could never have afforded without the profits from crypto.

When the meme token launched and I bought and sold I realised that was my “lucky” time in crypto where I made the real good money. I bought, sold and got out.

To get lucky again like that I think would mean years of grinding, investigating & networking and being very very lucky again.

Things are so fast paced in crypto and the socials that even a week off from them can put u completely out of touch.

Im much happier out of that crypto world

 

 

 

[Petra]

Unfortunately for all the experts on here, my house was bought in the 90s and even though the kids are still there I haven’t lived there in 25 years. 🤔🎉

[Petra]

46 minutes ago, Leonmarsh said:

In terms of wages 

Average wage 2000 -£18,000

Average wage today - £35,000

So wages would be £70,000 average in 2047 and house £3 million if history repeats itself 

Thats no accounting for the arse falling out of pensions, company stocks and shares, British steel and so on 

You couldn't answer the bitcoin question which is ok I don't know what it is either no one does really do they 😭

Averages are great! We can do anything with maths🤔 to get those averages how many people are in the top upper 5 figure salaries and above and how many earning half the ‘average’🤔🤔

[Leonmarsh]

7 minutes ago, Petra said:

Unfortunately for all the experts on here, my house was bought in the 90s and even though the kids are still there I haven’t lived there in 25 years. 🤔🎉

So how much is the house worth ? Would you expect the house to rise at the same rate over the next time period 

Genuine question