RustyShackleford

I thought everyone on here did free postage on this forum  by the way they have been crying about it......Strange that some expect it for free the second they buy off a dealer but when it's time to sell something of their own...WHAMO! postage charge. 
 

Because at the time, you didn't like £200 sovereigns.
You should have picked up more when they used to be £100!
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I sympathise with you. This years resolution is to use cash in person where possible. If there is an alternative where I can use cash I support that and make it know that that's the reason. Reward those still trying. If we don't Our every move will be tracked in our 15 minuet cities. It's about 6 out of every 10 transaction that in now cashless and increasing rapidly. I resent the implication that I'm up to no good or that I've had the cash from ill gotten gains. I just don't like my every move tracked and followed for marketing or central government purposes. I the day and age where we are told things can not be done for data protection, and awful lot of it is being captured about us. I would like to think I am a free man, of mature age and I do not need to be advised, told or legislated to do any thing for my own good or protection. However, it is becoming harder to reconcile this with reality.  
Back to the topic though, I think as the spending power of our measure of exchange the pound reduces. Goods will continue to increase. I suppose as long as the average bullion coin represented by the amount being asked I'll continue to pay that for as long as I can or need to. Be that £200/ £400 or even £1000.  

I think both coins will do very well in 20 years regardless of proof or bullion. 
There's approx £160 of price difference out the gate, so only you can work out which suits you better. Bullion for pure investment, or proof for investment but also a speculative side. Are you a stacker or collector?
I do think chards will check before sending out tbh. But the half sovereign is so intricate that a small flaw may be unfortunately missed. You can just use a loupe or magnifying glass to check yourself, and I'm sure they will look after you if a problem appears. 
If I was in your position and had saved up for one or the other, I'd probably opt for bullion and buy another 1/10th gold coin with the change. More gold and in 20 years should theoretically mean more profits. But more importantly you have closer to spot price gold in your possession incase you need an emergency sale quickly. A proof coin can go in and out of favour over the years (whilst I do think these will always be sought after ) but the collector's market can be strange at the best of times. 
 

Expect to pay spot +5% for gold ( 22ct and 24ct ) and spot + 50% for silver coins ( 999 silver ).
You may find silver cheaper from sellers on this forum but factoring in VAT and delivery you will likely pay £30 for a one ounce coin or bar unless buying a tube of 20-25.
As a newcomer to this addiction I strongly advise staying well away from anything on eBay that looks cheap.
Buy your first tranche of coins from well known dealers like Atkinsons, BullionbyPost, Chards, Bleyer, SilverTrader etc. or from a forum member with 100% feedback selling PMs.
Once you have the real product and understand specifications and can check them all, then if you feel inclined try out eBay BUT often prices can work out higher and you will frequently wonder if you bought a fake and the stress can outweigh the nominal perceived saving.

The only way the Government will find out that you have gifted the gold, is if you write a post on an open forum stating such gift. So I wouldn't do th.... Oh, wait

There is nothing like a new member (with no feedback) rocking up and complaining about the lack of trust, suggesting new trading rules and telling the forum that he will be bartering.
Comedy gold.
 

Not necessarily...
2 reasons I can think of, firstly 1/4oz is easier to calculate than a sovereign ( sovereign is slightly less than a 1/4oz) 
2nd reason, not everyone likes 22ct gold. Whereas a 1/4 oz Britannia is 24ct.

I said it 6000 years ago and I'll say it now, gold is in a speculative bubble, you've been warned 😀

It's okay, he's not really their leader, any more than Sunak is ours.

Winter coming soon - and when the great unwashed useless eaters of the world get cold and hungry with little or no fuel or no money to buy it - the excrement could very well hit the rotary oscillator 
Also it only takes one false flag event  big thing to happen in Ukraine done by USA special forces/CIA operatives/BlackWater/Black Ops  Putin to send markets into a tail spin and Gold to shoot back up 

I cant see the elites going for that personally, its far too controlling on the likes of the Claus Swabbs of the world. 
Maybe the Brix nations to gang up on the dollar using a basket of currencies & physical - that makes sense to me anyway? 

The digital currencies will be interesting, How they will go about is anyones guess - 'compliance - we will save you' 
I think they realise they cant force us to stay home & 'stay safe' anymore, they blew thier cover there..  
I dont care what anyone says that was downright tyranny & there are enough people that realise that now the psychosis is failing. 

I think you're correct on the first point.
I hope you're correct on the second.

As the wise man once said.. if you don't hold it "you don't own it"

Incorrect. Ive just got mine commissioned, by H.Bullyun aged 5 and three quarters

Oh and silver gold alloy instead of the brown sovereigns we have now 

I said, Thatcher kept us out of the Euro. Not the continent of Europe which we’re in geographically nor the E.U as an establishment.
I was referring to the Euro currency.
If you read my comment again maybe you might understand it rather than jumping to assumptions.
Euro = currency which we avoided joining which was the whole point of my comment saying thankfully we avoided joining which Thatcher was adamant we wouldn’t and we didn’t.

I'd say all of the UK's current issues can be laid at the doorstep of three eras.
1) The Atlee government came to power after WWII. The country was broken and close to bankruptcy (but then so was Germany - who took a different path to us).
A bold vision was taken by the new Labour Government - wholesale nationalisation. Their ideals were genuine and sincere, to improve the lot of the working classes (and everyone else too - trickle up if you like). The NHS etc. 
But as good as it might have started out, it had an unintended consequence.
The complete nationalisation of all those industries left them in a position where they could rely on Government funding and assistance to survive rather that having to innovate and stay competitive.
Megoliths like British Leyland became zombie companies relying on state aid.
The other consequence was that bringing politicians into running companies brought in opportunities for them to either make a mint on the side or call in the bean counters and cut, cut, cut. See Dr Beeching, Ernest Marples or the fact that Harold Macmillan became known as Mack the knife.
2) The 1970s saw loss after loss, so then came Thatcher in the 1980s and decided to sell off all our industries and utilities to foreign investors. It was cheaper, quicker and easier to cut the dead wood and just buy it from abroad. Rather than actually identify areas for growth, support and invest in those and build new industries.
Unfortunately, closing down or selling off all these companies, also meant that we became a service sector economy - a nation of bankers, shopkeepers and middlemen - buy from abroad, whack on a profit and sell on. You can't run an economy long term like that. Any issues in the country you're buying from and you are directly affected with little control to stop it. See Germany's current problems with buying all their gas from Russia.
3) 2007-2008 saw the banking crisis and the creation of quantitative easing and vast currency creation. Turning the UK into a zombie economy.
The other day on the TV there was a politician saying, "we need to make credit easier for people to get, so they can pay the bills". Now if you can't see what's wrong with that, then there's no hope really is there?
So everything these days is based on debt and obtaining credit - so no real growth or assets then? No actual wealth creation?
This is before we get to uncontrolled immigration and housing/NHS pressures (another unintended consequence of the Atlee government making the welfare state and NHS so appealing).
I don't really see any answers to these problems and the politicians are the greatest instrument in all of this.

Also arrived today was my first double sovereigns, both 2022 courtesy of @ChardsCoinandBullionDealer.
I'm looking forward to winning the prize draw too @LawrenceChard👍

I definitely do see some kind of bartering with metals down the line though ( especially if we get a global banking scheme) people will want some of what they worked tirelessly for outside the system. 

I'm sick of this fake "Two-step verification protection". 
I can buy/sell on Ebay/Amazon/Paypal with a single click, but if I want to send a tenner to someone from my bank account, they need a robot to telephone me with a code. Plus, as I don't use a mobile 'phone, and they're all geared up to text codes, it's a sodding nuisance.
Purely designed to force mobile device useage, and likely voice/retina/fingerprint recognition.

I'll take my foil hat off now...

Anything that you do that is out of the ordinary to your normal day to day usage can trigger, anything can. Great reason to keep as little as possible in a single bank. Have cash in multiple banks, cash for 3 month in your safe deposit box . Don't rely on banks to have your back and look out for you 

I just hope he took no notice of those telling him to take a haircut just to convert to coins.

Don't buy silver, buy gold.
 
Silver's rubbish! 😁