Cornishfarmer

this it was H and B who had them on sale for £180 too a week or so for them to sell out.      i remember at the time not going for it because of the royal mints milk spotting issues.         Read the first few pages of the una and lion thread and this is a quote
Just buy 14 Sovereigns and hold them for ten years and then sell them. Probably get a similar profit.

Anyone else that missed the first dispatch of the GC worried that their coins will be cancelled.   Multiple members here have been sent 2 to the same address by mistake have they cocked up AGAIN? 

My take on the ‘unexpected delay’ which maybe right maybe not.    The royal mint sent sets for grading and they have been delayed coming back. Else why so many on the population so quickly. The ones what will be sent out won’t have made  PF70 but will be better than PF68.    They have said in the past that coins will be better than 68 else they will be replaced so now they know they are.      Why would the royal mint state the American grading system rather than the British if this wasn’t the case?

Big one January and I haven’t flipped any yet😂😂

My take on the ‘unexpected delay’ which maybe right maybe not.    The royal mint sent sets for grading and they have been delayed coming back. Else why so many on the population so quickly. The ones what will be sent out won’t have made  PF70 but will be better than PF68.    They have said in the past that coins will be better than 68 else they will be replaced so now they know they are.      Why would the royal mint state the American grading system rather than the British if this wasn’t the case?

What I don’t get is, the royal mint are selling a coin for a fraction of the resale value, I know it’s hype but if they doubled the mintage they would double the turnover.    They are costing the company money by limiting mintage’s     This would take the flippers out and the genuine collectors would carry on collecting.   I admire @Frenchie and @Paul for holding on to the Una when most would sell and now it’s paying off for them as the royal mint have done a good job and making sure they can get the whole collection.    Just wish they did the same with the 2oz and 5oz silver.      

What I don’t get is, the royal mint are selling a coin for a fraction of the resale value, I know it’s hype but if they doubled the mintage they would double the turnover.    They are costing the company money by limiting mintage’s     This would take the flippers out and the genuine collectors would carry on collecting.   I admire @Frenchie and @Paul for holding on to the Una when most would sell and now it’s paying off for them as the royal mint have done a good job and making sure they can get the whole collection.    Just wish they did the same with the 2oz and 5oz silver.      

I’ve had some more hopeful news following my email to Anne Jessopp about the loose capsules following advice from @BackyardBullion and @Oldun. Some of you might remember that I was one of the unlucky few or majority possibly that received their sovereign loose in the box. Oddly the capsule was practically closed.
I have to say, up to now, I’ve been impressed with the Royal Mint customer service so no problems with that.
They have now offered and promised to replace my sovereign. I am happy about this and having spoken with them on the phone today, they called me which I was surprised about, they have assured me I’ll get a replacement.
I’ve learned that they are taking measures to send replacements and original orders of those who haven’t got theirs with foam inserts. Not ideal I suppose but and this is the but, they’ve acknowledged the fault with the capsules and they are rectifying it. Admitting there’s a problem can’t have been easy for them. So they’re rectifying it with foam inserts which might be a little bit like shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted, perhaps, but they’re doing something about it. Which is good.
So and I’m presuming here, those who are still waiting for their original orders or replacements, you’re waiting because they’re waiting for the foam to modify the packaging. That’s what I was told by RM.
Lastly I asked the question many of us have been wondering, will I get someone else’s return? No we won’t, after they inspect our returns and agree that there are defects, on an individual basis I think, they are reminted. We might possibly get the same certificate number but not the same coin or anyone else’s return.
I’d say my experience of RM customer service has been a positive one, I’m still nervous to return mine but I have faith that I’ll get a newly minted replacement.
I was told it might be mid January before a replacement arrives but it’s a month ish away and I’d rather wait to have a sovereign as it should have been originally.
I thought this might help others who are waiting for replacements.
 

Am I they only one but I’m not that keen on the design. May look better in hand.    I think this would be better.  Who designed it?

Am I they only one but I’m not that keen on the design. May look better in hand.    I think this would be better.  Who designed it?

That is a beauty. Obverse is designed by Edgar Bertram Mackennal and the Reverse is Leonard Charles Wyon.
I think it’s Thomas Simon next though (see discussion above).

Am I they only one but I’m not that keen on the design. May look better in hand.    I think this would be better.  Who designed it?

Income tax.   If selling to flip its dealing and nothing to do with CGT

all sold out   157 in queue and ended up with nothing

Looks like they fixed all the cracks, no luck getting in before lol

Income tax.   If selling to flip its dealing and nothing to do with CGT

Difference between dealers and flippers is that dealers pay their taxes on their profits from coin sales!!!

Is it a private mint?    1,5 euro seems a very low amount on a 1oz gold coin 

I think @TheShinyStuff has covered the answer to this question:
 
 
 
I think Leon, you are well aware of the price premiums achieved of the previous 5 Special Reverse Modern Sovereigns- a reminder of them- 1989, 2002, 2005, 2012 & 2017- I've lost touch with exact current prices achieved but from memory of the last sales I have seen here, auctions & retail dealer sales, they go as follows- (lowest price Raw examples, highest graded 70):
1989:  £1100- £2k
2002: £600- £750
2005: £600- £750
2012: £950-  £1200. (remarkably (and likely an outlier) one achieved £2300 yesterday at the CC Auction it was PCGS PR 70 DCAM First Strike) 
2017: £895- £1150
 
Is there any evidence to say that the 2022 Sovereign won't be as good a long term hold?  Or that people don't have confidence in holding them?  It was the fastest sell out of any year date proof Special Reverse Sovereign and the mintage is on a par (or less) than any of the previous Special Reverses- and 98 Pages of chat in this very thread tells quite a story.  
 
Here's some more evidence that the 2022 will perhaps, do ok long term:
 
I did this exercise on the 20/11/2021 and repeated it just now.
Using the search term '2022 Sovereign' on eBay on Monday 29/11/2021:
 
The amount of 2022 Sovereigns for sale (all denominations and sets) is currently surprisingly few, given the amount of coins/ sets issued- there's currently only 41 sales posts using the search term described above.
 
In terms of sales- using the same search terms, here's the action so far- surprisingly few sales at 55.  Figures not quite accurate as some sales include 'best offer accepted':
 
5 Coin set- 5 Sales ranging between £5795 through £6995- Average sale price- £6348
4 Coin Set- 2 Sales ranging between £3250 through £3750- Average sale price- £3500
3 Coin set- 7 Sales ranging between £1195 through £1650- Average sale price- £1391
Sovereign- 27 Sales ranging between £699 through £885- Average sale price- £762
Half Sovereign-  13 Sales ranging between £375 through £486- Average sale price- £416
Sovereign/ Half Sovereign combo- 1 Sale at £1300
 
The Opportunity takers still don't appear to be out force.

nope, max 300 base points but 15k max nectar.

God, I must be bored this morning...
Using the search term '2022 Sovereign' on eBay on Saturday 20/11/2021:
 
The amount of 2022 Sovereigns for sale (all denominations and sets) is currently surprisingly few, given the amount of coins/ sets issued- there's currently only 36 sales posts using the search term described above.
 
In terms of sales- using the same search terms, here's the action so far- surprisingly few sales at 30.  Figures not quite accurate as some sales include 'best offer accepted':
 
5 Coin set- 3 Sales ranging between £5795 through £6995- Average sale price- £6430
4 Coin Set- NONE
3 Coin set- 5 Sales ranging between £1195 through £1650- Average sale price- £1388
Sovereign- 14 Sales ranging between £699 through £799- Average sale price- £750
Half Sovereign-  7 Sales ranging between £375 through £415- Average sale price- £399
Sovereign/ Half Sovereign combo- 1 Sale at £1300
 
The Opportunity takers don't appear to be out force.

I wonder if some of us will receive our 2022 sovs and the Gothic crowns on the same day..😆😆😆
I wonder if some of us will receive our 2022 sovs and the Gothic crowns on the same day..😆😆😆
I wonder if some of us will receive our 2022 sovs and the Gothic crowns on the same day..😆😆😆

all mine were pre-9am and nothing cancelled 

The 5 coin Sovereign set has landed. Thank you to @paulmerton for the early morning link on Monday! Great to be part of this wonderful TSF community.

Anyone else get top cash back?       For some reason they and paid cash pack on the price that it would be if VAT was added to the coin