Great Engravers - Petition Crown (Gazette Proclamation)

[NumismaticNI]

What's the next coin in the series? Someone has to be in the know somewhere. They'll have to revive the series after the last few, couldn't come quick enough 

[Paul]

9 minutes ago, NumismaticNI said:

What's the next coin in the series? Someone has to be in the know somewhere. They'll have to revive the series after the last few, couldn't come quick enough 

I've not had a call, email, contact or clue. Not a dickybird 🤐 about it

My royal mint tick file is paid off so if it's something good. I can fling it on, 0% apr and pay the balance down.

The petition crown reception in the secondary market certainly hasn't been amazing

Keep and HODL the gold or pf70s  for a decade, you'll be good/ahead. I think/hope 

 

[Paul]

https://coins.ha.com/itm/great-britain/great-britain-charles-ii-silver-pattern-petition-crown-1663-ms62-ngc-/a/3113-31155.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

 

Original "Petition Crown" up for auction in Heritages premier sale in early Jan 

I wonder what bidding it will finish at ?

[SeverinDigsSovereigns]

3 hours ago, Paul said:

https://coins.ha.com/itm/great-britain/great-britain-charles-ii-silver-pattern-petition-crown-1663-ms62-ngc-/a/3113-31155.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

 

Original "Petition Crown" up for auction in Heritages premier sale in early Jan 

I wonder what bidding it will finish at ?

This auction is full of treasures

[Paul]

29 minutes ago, SeverinDigsSovereigns said:

This auction is full of treasures

There's some lovely great Britain bits in this sale. Can't afford any, but nice to look and dream ! 

[SeverinDigsSovereigns]

9 minutes ago, Paul said:

There's some lovely great Britain bits in this sale. Can't afford any, but nice to look and dream ! 

Some of the most impressive indeed. Not the 5 guineas, nothing special or rare just expensive whenever any turns up. The Edward VII patter crown is a stunner. 

https://coins.ha.com/itm/great-britain/edward-vii-gold-specimen-pattern-crown-1902-sp62-pcgs-/a/3113-31187.s?ic16=ViewItem-BrowseTabs-Auction-Open-ThisAuction-120115

There are some pattern crowns in gold that are worth a fortune, or deserve to be. Some are very much unheard of, and I think this is one of those. Another would be the gold gothic crown. There's one at the British Museum, and I'm not aware of any being sold at an auction before.

https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/C_1935-0401-8468

The petition crown exists in silver only, but the competitor Roettier crown also has a gold version

https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/13632/lot/1596/

The 3G has a gold version. The William IIII one we've been talking about earlier, too.

Edited December 16, 2023 by SeverinDigsSovereigns

[Paul]

46 minutes ago, SeverinDigsSovereigns said:

Some of the most impressive indeed. Not the 5 guineas, nothing special or rare just expensive whenever any turns up. The Edward VII patter crown is a stunner. 

https://coins.ha.com/itm/great-britain/edward-vii-gold-specimen-pattern-crown-1902-sp62-pcgs-/a/3113-31187.s?ic16=ViewItem-BrowseTabs-Auction-Open-ThisAuction-120115

There are some pattern crowns in gold that are worth a fortune, or deserve to be. Some are very much unheard of, and I think this is one of those. Another would be the gold gothic crown. There's one at the British Museum, and I'm not aware of any being sold at an auction before.

https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/C_1935-0401-8468

The petition crown exists in silver only, but the competitor Roettier crown also has a gold version

https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/13632/lot/1596/

The 3G has a gold version. The William IIII one we've been talking about earlier, too.

The victoria pattern gold crown is worth a watch. Lovely piece that 

In the January heritage platinum sale 

 

[NumismaticNI]

That's me secured my 2oz gold 

[NewCoins]

This will be my first coin purchase in a while 

Edited January 7 by NewCoins

[James32]

45 minutes ago, NewCoins said:

This will be my first coin purchase in a while 

Welcome back

[NumismaticNI]

I would've preferred Wyons George and the Dragon design but this is certainly better than the last coin in the series, another drawback this design was used n the 2017 sovereigns 

[NewCoins]

14 hours ago, James32 said:

Welcome back

Thanks James. I have been a silent reader, so still been around mostly.

 

[Paul]

A little curve ball, but the GE release will be in 24crt/ .999 fine rather than 22crt so at least the gold will look gold, instead of rose/copper. So will show some variance in the 2017 in size and look

I'm still unsure for this myself 

[paulmerton]

13 minutes ago, Paul said:

A little curve ball, but the GE release will be in 24crt/ .999 fine rather than 22crt so at least the gold will look gold, instead of rose/copper. So will show some variance in the 2017 in size and look

I'm still unsure for this myself 

Was anyone expecting it to not be 999 gold?

[Paul]

11 minutes ago, paulmerton said:

Was anyone expecting it to not be 999 gold?

I wouldn't have thought so.

 

[westminstrel]

3 hours ago, Paul said:

A little curve ball, but the GE release will be in 24crt/ .999 fine rather than 22crt so at least the gold will look gold, instead of rose/copper. So will show some variance in the 2017 in size and look

I'm still unsure for this myself 

 

3 hours ago, paulmerton said:

Was anyone expecting it to not be 999 gold?

I assumed Paul was comparing it to the 2017 Sovereign. 🙂

Definitely on the fence about this one. 

[paulmerton]

1 minute ago, westminstrel said:

 

I assumed Paul was comparing it to the 2017 Sovereign. 🙂

Definitely on the fence about this one. 

Just confused about what the curveball was if everyone was expecting it to be 999 gold anyway!

[westminstrel]

13 minutes ago, paulmerton said:

Just confused about what the curveball was if everyone was expecting it to be 999 gold anyway!

Ah gotcha.

Now someone convince me one way or another. 😋

[paulmerton]

2 minutes ago, westminstrel said:

Ah gotcha.

Now someone convince me one way or another. 😋

If you only buy one thing this year... Buy this! 🤣

[westminstrel]

15 minutes ago, paulmerton said:

If you only buy one thing this year... Buy this! 🤣

Okay I’ve been influenced. 🙈 

[Jeffers46]

I think we will see a proper scramble for these. Hopefully back to 3000 mintage!

[NumismaticNI]

Is there anything spectacular use can all think of that may be a future great engravers. Since Una - right up there. Three graces also, but is there anything close to the first 2 coins that could be a future release. This upcoming one is good, but not great. Wyons version was much better, any suggestions?

[SeverinDigsSovereigns]

1 hour ago, NumismaticNI said:

Is there anything spectacular use can all think of that may be a future great engravers. Since Una - right up there. Three graces also, but is there anything close to the first 2 coins that could be a future release. This upcoming one is good, but not great. Wyons version was much better, any suggestions?

Roettier medals (Battle of Lowestoft, Peace of Breda, etc)

The Waterloo medal

Etc etc

Some English Commonwealth designs, too. They are beautiful designs but I shan't touch them. I shan't touch any of the traitor coins either, although they seem pretty popular among collectors.

Edited January 9 by SeverinDigsSovereigns
Typos

[westminstrel]

I suspect the RM is trying to play it safe and stick to popular, less polarising designs.

But, good question… what besides good old St. George and the Dragon might fit the bill? 🤔 

Edited January 10 by westminstrel

[SeverinDigsSovereigns]

3 minutes ago, westminstrel said:

I suspect the RM is trying to play it safe and stick to popular, less polarising designs.

But, good question… what besides good old St. George and the Dragon might fit the bill? 🤔 

Everything, as long as they don't include obverse portraits and make two coin sets...

Edited January 10 by SeverinDigsSovereigns