The Gold - New BBC drama starting Sunday 12th February

[Foster88]

I thought this might be of interest here on the forum, for those who haven’t seen the adverts, a new drama starts next Sunday called The Gold about a 1983 robbery of three tonnes of gold in London.

Some of you might even remember it at the time. Here’s the trailer and no I don’t work for the BBC. 😆

I just thought it might be of interest to my fellow TSF members as it does look like it could be a good series.

Now, what would you do with three tonnes of gold….

 

[LawrenceChard]

16 hours ago, Foster88 said:

I thought this might be of interest here on the forum, for those who haven’t seen the adverts, a new drama starts next Sunday called The Gold about a 1983 robbery of three tonnes of gold in London.

Some of you might even remember it at the time. Here’s the trailer and no I don’t work for the BBC. 😆

I just thought it might be of interest to my fellow TSF members as it does look like it could be a good series.

Now, what would you do with three tonnes of gold….

 

Good thinking, I heard and saw something about it a few days ago.

My wife said I would enjoy laughing at it when they pick up and throw around gold bars as if they were made of plastic or aluminium.

The Official Trailer picture is a great example. It is the size and shape of a London Good Delivey bar +-400 ounces / 12.5 kilos, but with unrealistically polished sides. The actor is holding it as if it weighs next to nothing.

Also the bars in the robbery were all reported to be kilo bars I think, and the bar in the picture is much bigger than a kilo!

This is worth reading:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brink's-Mat_robbery

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Edited February 4, 2023 by LawrenceChard

[Petra]

Just now, LawrenceChard said:

Good thinking, I heard and saw something about it a few days ago.

My wife said I would enjoy laughing at it when they pick up and throw around gold bars as if they were made of plastic or aluminium.

The Official Trailer picture is a great example. It is the size and shape of a London Good Delivey bar +-400 ounces / 12.5 kilos, but with unrealistically polished sides. The actor is holding it as if it weighs next to nothing.

Also the bars in the robbery were all reported to be kilo bars I think, and that is much bigger than a kilo!

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Yeah, but three tons, is three tons! Allegedly they were going after something else and the gold was there, which then leads onto how they didn’t have a clue initially on how to dispose of it🤔

[dicker]

2 hours ago, Petra said:

Yeah, but three tons, is three tons! Allegedly they were going after something else and the gold was there, which then leads onto how they didn’t have a clue initially on how to dispose of it🤔

Correct.  Hence they only had a Ford Transit that only just coped.

[dicker]

There are some good books on the topic. 

What is less well known is that the insurers went after the people involved and recovered a lot of money.

It is alleged that a chunk of the gold remains hidden - given the number of people who have been killed in relation to this robbery it could be that it is never found.  

[Minted]

What would I do with 3t of gold?  Think I'd have it melted down and formed into car panels... 😉  

[Foster88]

3 hours ago, Petra said:

Yeah, but three tons, is three tons! Allegedly they were going after something else and the gold was there, which then leads onto how they didn’t have a clue initially on how to dispose of it🤔

One of the main actors was on The Graham Norton Show last night promoting the series and he said the robbers thought there was 3 million Spanish Pesetas. But when they arrived they found the gold.

Interestingly, he also said that apparently any new gold minted since 1983 is likely to contain some of the stolen gold from the robbery. I’m not sure how true that is.

[Foster88]

13 minutes ago, dicker said:

There are some good books on the topic. 

What is less well known is that the insurers went after the people involved and recovered a lot of money.

It is alleged that a chunk of the gold remains hidden - given the number of people who have been killed in relation to this robbery it could be that it is never found.  

Isn’t there also some of the gold from the Hatton robbery still missing or hidden?

That robbery was unbelievable how they pulled that off given their age.

[dicker]

14 minutes ago, Foster88 said:

Isn’t there also some of the gold from the Hatton robbery still missing or hidden?

That robbery was unbelievable how they pulled that off given their age.

I had read so…

[Paul]

its certainly an interesting back story on the Brinks Matt job, reading about Kenny Noye, Brian Reader, Scadlyn Gold Bristol re-smelting it 

There's some good docs already on YouTube about it 

Will give it a watch, thanks for posting @Foster88

 

[LawrenceChard]

5 hours ago, Petra said:

Yeah, but three tons, is three tons! Allegedly they were going after something else and the gold was there, which then leads onto how they didn’t have a clue initially on how to dispose of it🤔

Correct, they were expecting to get £3.2 million in cash,

I was not aware they only had a Ford Transit. The maximum payload at the time would have only been between 1 and 1.5 tonnes.

You need a 7.5 tonne truck to carry up to 3 or 3.5 tonnes. I know from experience, but I have only done it with silver.

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[LawrenceChard]

2 hours ago, dicker said:

I had read so…

Wikipedia has a good page about it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatton_Garden_safe_deposit_burglary

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[Foster88]

20 minutes ago, LawrenceChard said:

Correct, they were expecting to get £3.2 million in cash,

I was not aware they only had a Ford Transit. The maximum payload at the time would have only been between 1 and 1.5 tonnes.

You need a 7.5 tonne truck to carry up to 3 or 3.5 tonnes. I know from experience, but I have only done it with silver.

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But how many gold Krugerrand’s can a rucksack hold? 😆  

[LawrenceChard]

17 minutes ago, Foster88 said:

But how many gold Krugerrand’s can a rucksack hold? 😆  

Krugerrands?

Maximum I remember managing was 500, in tubes, about 18 or 19 kilos.

Although I should have said it depends on the size of your rucksack!

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[dicker]

I suspect that Brinks Mat is not the largest gold robbery in history but it’s up there.

Saddam, Hitler etc probably stole more.  

[Littlemac]

I think I read somewhere that the Brinks Mat robbery kick started the whole Dockland development in London. 

http://db.city-insights.com/en/page/3072

[GoldDiggerDave]

21 minutes ago, dicker said:

I suspect that Brinks Mat is not the largest gold robbery in history but it’s up there.

Saddam, Hitler etc probably stole more.  

I can remember a safety deposit box heist in Antwerp, mainly diamonds but also millions of PMs in 2003. 

[KevjustKev]

Three tonnes? I'd build a solid gold house, and buy a rocket car, just to make Danhausen jealous!

If anyone gets that reference, 10 points! 

Edited February 7, 2023 by KevjustKev

[LawrenceChard]

On 04/02/2023 at 00:23, Foster88 said:

I thought this might be of interest here on the forum, for those who haven’t seen the adverts, a new drama starts next Sunday called The Gold about a 1983 robbery of three tonnes of gold in London.

Some of you might even remember it at the time. Here’s the trailer and no I don’t work for the BBC. 😆

I just thought it might be of interest to my fellow TSF members as it does look like it could be a good series.

Now, what would you do with three tonnes of gold….

 

On 04/02/2023 at 10:56, LawrenceChard said:

Good thinking, I heard and saw something about it a few days ago.

My wife said I would enjoy laughing at it when they pick up and throw around gold bars as if they were made of plastic or aluminium.

The Official Trailer picture is a great example. It is the size and shape of a London Good Delivey bar +-400 ounces / 12.5 kilos, but with unrealistically polished sides. The actor is holding it as if it weighs next to nothing.

Also the bars in the robbery were all reported to be kilo bars I think, and the bar in the picture is much bigger than a kilo!

This is worth reading:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brink's-Mat_robbery

😎

 

This paragraph from the Wikipedia page is intruiging, and might be of great interest to the Conspiracy Theorists (Not that there are any on TSF!)

Counterfeit stolen gold bars
On 21 December 1983, less than four weeks after the robbery, police in Austria arrested five men, four Italians and an Austrian, at a Vienna hotel. Police also recovered ten bullion bars bearing the refiner's mark and serial numbers of bars stolen in the Brink's-Mat robbery.

According to the police spokesman, the bars were gold-coated tungsten counterfeits, and therefore could not be Johnson Matthey's stolen gold bars. He said that the arrested men planned to fraudulently claim they were from the Heathrow robbery. No explanation was given as to how the counterfeiters obtained the unpublished bar serial numbers, nor the likely benefit of counterfeiting stolen property in this way.

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[SidS]

On 04/02/2023 at 11:00, Petra said:

Yeah, but three tons, is three tons! Allegedly they were going after something else and the gold was there, which then leads onto how they didn’t have a clue initially on how to dispose of it🤔

If Wonger was there, he would have left it and took the fiat instead.

[Becca]

There is currently a documentary on Channel 5 called  Blood Money: The Curse of Brink's-Mat Robbery  

Watched it on catchup last week quite informative

B

[Bogart]

On 04/02/2023 at 10:56, LawrenceChard said:

Good thinking, I heard and saw something about it a few days ago.

My wife said I would enjoy laughing at it when they pick up and throw around gold bars as if they were made of plastic or aluminium.

The Official Trailer picture is a great example. It is the size and shape of a London Good Delivey bar +-400 ounces / 12.5 kilos, but with unrealistically polished sides. The actor is holding it as if it weighs next to nothing.

Also the bars in the robbery were all reported to be kilo bars I think, and the bar in the picture is much bigger than a kilo!

This is worth reading:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brink's-Mat_robbery

😎

 

Bit like the bar James Bond drops on the putting green in Goldfinger. Putting green totally unscathed.

[Foster88]

Reminder: The Gold starts in ten minutes on BBC 1.

[Paul]

11 hours ago, Foster88 said:

Reminder: The Gold starts in ten minutes on BBC 1.

Tonights telly sorted on iPlayer:) 

[Zhorro]

On 04/02/2023 at 11:00, Petra said:

Yeah, but three tons, is three tons! Allegedly they were going after something else and the gold was there, which then leads onto how they didn’t have a clue initially on how to dispose of it🤔

I understand there was a boating accident!