Pressure to Grade

[richatthecroft]

3 minutes ago, CollectorNo1 said:

I've heard so many nightmare stories on grading companys who have a tight relationship with some dealers who get automatic PF70's - MS70's because they are friends/Aquantices with the grading companys...I believe its an in house...who you know to get the best grades possible.....

If this is the case and there are so many nightmare stories, then I’m sure the authorities would want to know that a fraud exists.  

 

[richatthecroft]

6 minutes ago, CollectorNo1 said:

Corruption and rife is the normal in the USA...and if you think PCGS n NGC are exempt....you are surely mistaken......Money talks..bullshit walks..having a Brother-in-law that's works for a USA grading compa..I deff know what I'm talking about...😐😐😐

If you have this type of information/evidence of a fraud, then you would be doing the whole coin collecting community a favour by reporting it. 

[CollectorNo1]

1 minute ago, SilverMike said:

Again, drivel and snippets you have gleaned in your short but busy time on this forum and compiled into utter nonsense. 

Well guess I'm completely  ignorant as you seem to be an expert on all coinage...May I have the link to your precious metals empire so I can purchase some of your merchandise  ...

[SilverMike]

Just now, CollectorNo1 said:

Well guess I'm completely  ignorant as you seem to be an expert on all coinage...May I have the link to your precious metals empire so I can purchase some of your merchandise  ...

😂 i didnt say that I was an expert on all coinage, but that doesnt matter does it. Keeping going, get the post count up up up! 

[CollectorNo1]

1 minute ago, richatthecroft said:

If you have this type of information/evidence of a fraud, then you would be doing the whole coin collecting community a favour by reporting it. 

Well not my field of expertise..just an opinion which I believe I'm entitled.. but if you know different would appreciate your views sir.

[CollectorNo1]

8 minutes ago, SilverMike said:

Again, drivel and snippets you have gleaned in your short but busy time on this forum and compiled into utter nonsense. 

Thankyou for your negative comments...drivel and snippets seems to be the extent of your vocabulary..I thought this forum was to express our own personal views on pm's etc..without being abused..Guess I was wrong..but !!! No sleep lost this end sir.

[SilverMike]

3 minutes ago, CollectorNo1 said:

Thankyou for your negative comments...drivel and snippets seems to be the extent of your vocabulary..I thought this forum was to express our own personal views on pm's etc..without being abused..Guess I was wrong..but !!! No sleep lost this end sir.

You’re welcome, but hang on, while you are feeling sorry for yourself, this started by you accusing me of someone “…who want[s] to achieve a greater premium on their coins than they are really worth...(Greed)”, so not only greedy, but a fraudster because I grade.

 

[richatthecroft]

19 minutes ago, CollectorNo1 said:

Corruption and rife is the normal in the USA...and if you think PCGS n NGC are exempt....you are surely mistaken......Money talks..bullshit walks..having a Brother-in-law that's works for a USA grading compa..I deff know what I'm talking about...😐😐😐

 

15 minutes ago, richatthecroft said:

If you have this type of information/evidence of a fraud, then you would be doing the whole coin collecting community a favour by reporting it. 

 

10 minutes ago, CollectorNo1 said:

Well not my field of expertise..just an opinion which I believe I'm entitled.. but if you know different would appreciate your views sir.

 

If you are going to quote me @CollectorNo1 then why not contextualise my quote?  

Of course you are entitled to your opinions- and since you ask, here's my view- you have stated or implied that you have some evidence that you know someone on the inside of a grading company that is aware of a fraud- you posted the allegation of what sounds like a fraud going on and posted it like you know that its a fact.

If it is a fact, then I personally think you should report it.

[CollectorNo1]

1 minute ago, SilverMike said:

You’re welcome, but hang on, while you are feeling sorry for yourself, this started by you accusing me of someone “…who want[s] to achieve a greater premium on their coins than they are really worth...(Greed)”, so not only greedy, but a fraudster because I grade.

 

No..didnt actually cause you sir...never felt sorry for myself at all.im very happy and positive..just express my opinions when I feel it necessary..the jobs of livinfin a democracy in the UK...I've never mentioned fraudster???? This forum is about expression,banter..difference of opinion...no ill feeling on my side..if you don't like what I say....I understand  but won't apologise for my views....goodnight sir...sweet dreams.....

[Leonmarsh]

Quick question anyone want to buy my coins? Lol

[CollectorNo1]

I see I'm up against a group of members that have been friends on this forum for some time  having each others backs....abit like school..the cool kids and the needs.. not saying I'm a need but I do recognise the bullies who love to stick together to put down the weaker kids..thing is I'm not a weaker kid..if you want to gang up up on me lol...go for it.....I'm entitled to my opinions..I'm not going to divulge my sources....I'm just saying..so go ahead....gang up...abuse me..say what you want..

Again I'm only stating my opinions and if that doesn't conform with YOUR VIEWS.....keep slagging me off....its fun hearing your views.....

Edited October 27, 2021 by CollectorNo1

[HerefordBullyun]

1 minute ago, CollectorNo1 said:

I see I'm up against a group of members that have been friends on this forum for some time  having each others backs....abit like school..the cool kids and the needs.. not saying I'm a need but I do recognise the bullies who love to stick together to put down the weaker kids..thing is I'm not a weaker kid..if you want to gang up up on me lol...go for it.....I'm entitled to my opinions..I'm not going to divulge my sources....I'm just saying..so go ahead....gang up...abuse me..say what you want..

Again I'm only stating my opinions and if that doesn't conform with YOUR BIEWS.....keep slagging me off....its fun hearing your views.....

Im not into grading mate  Im with you I just like my bullion- saying that if someone wants to donate me a graded coin I will happily take it off thier hands

Edited October 27, 2021 by HerefordBullyun

[richatthecroft]

2 minutes ago, CollectorNo1 said:

I understand  but won't apologise for my views

 

Then I won't apologise for my view that your analysis and conclusions on the subject of Grading were ill thought out and poorly considered.

 

As already stated in this thread by numerous commentators, there are a plethora of reasons why people grade coins.   @jultorsk made an excellent point of choosing to buy a pre-graded Wreath Coin- it provides confidence when putting down hundreds/ thousands of pounds of your hard earned cash on a coin.

Greed isn't the first thing that springs to my mind when I see someone having graded a coin.     

[CollectorNo1]

1 minute ago, richatthecroft said:

 

Then I won't apologise for my view that your analysis and conclusions on the subject of Grading were ill thought out and poorly considered.

 

As already stated in this thread by numerous commentators, there are a plethora of reasons why people grade coins.   @jultorsk made an excellent point of choosing to buy a pre-graded Wreath Coin- it provides confidence when putting down hundreds/ thousands of pounds of your hard earned cash on a coin.

Greed isn't the first thing that springs to my mind when I see someone having graded a coin.     

Yes...and there are plenty on this site who disagree with grading coins....cest la vie Sir..... 

[KevinFlynn]

3 minutes ago, HerefordBullyun said:

Im not into grading mate  Im with you I just like my bullion- saying that if someone wants to donate me a graded coin I will happily take it off thier hands

I would possibly get a version of my regular coins as slabbed for the novelty value. Not wanting to overpay much though.

[Leonmarsh]

14 minutes ago, richatthecroft said:

 

Then I won't apologise for my view that your analysis and conclusions on the subject of Grading were ill thought out and poorly considered.

 

As already stated in this thread by numerous commentators, there are a plethora of reasons why people grade coins.   @jultorsk made an excellent point of choosing to buy a pre-graded Wreath Coin- it provides confidence when putting down hundreds/ thousands of pounds of your hard earned cash on a coin.

Greed isn't the first thing that springs to my mind when I see someone having graded a coin.     

Same reason I slabbed this and the only reason is because its the second finest known example. Of a cali gold fractional in the world of that year 

It's the size of a little finger nail so grading helps storage and authenticity for me nothing more nothing less 

Just gave me peace of mind 

 

Edited October 27, 2021 by Leonmarsh

[CollectorNo1]

1 minute ago, KevinFlynn said:

I would possibly get a version of my regular coins as slabbed for the novelty value. Not wanting to overpay much though.

I agree but certain members who have the right to their opinions do not agree....that's what I like about this forum is the different opinions and views..but not when I get slated for mine..but guess that's the way of the world.......as the saying goes..(Water off a ducks back)...😄😄😄😄

[CollectorNo1]

10 minutes ago, Leonmarsh said:

Same reason I slabbed this and the only reason is because its the second finest known example. Of a cali gold fractional in the world of that year 

It's the size of a little finger nail so grading helps storage and authenticity for me nothing more nothing less 

Just gave me peace of mind 

 

 

 

Nice..like that.....

[Leonmarsh]

@CollectorNo1 sorry to be pain can you unquote my post my address is in one of thre pics

Cheers mate 

[CollectorNo1]

1 minute ago, Leonmarsh said:

@CollectorNo1 sorry to be pain can you unquote my post my address is in one of thre pics

Cheers mate 

I would sir..but don't know how to do that?

[Leonmarsh]

It's OK now thanks

[ChrisSilver]

@CollectorNo1 It’s ok, I have deleted all of the photos from that quoted part as couldn’t see which one it was in. Please let me know if all is OK now or if anything else with your personal details needs to be removed @Leonmarsh

[CollectorNo1]

1 hour ago, CollectorNo1 said:

Well @silvermike. I look forward  to your book..prove me wrong sir..instead of believing all the cotton candy BS you read...sir

@SilverMike nice to know you have been following all my posts over the months but I'm sure you could use your time in a more productive way than following  my drivel 😅😅😅😅😅

[Leonmarsh]

2 minutes ago, ChrisSilver said:

@CollectorNo1 It’s ok, I have deleted all of the photos from that quoted part as couldn’t see which one it was in. Please let me know if all is OK now or if anything else with your personal details needs to be removed @Leonmarsh

@ChrisSilver that's it mate thanks 

Sorry to be a pain I go back to my MBA 

[Roy]

1 minute ago, Leonmarsh said:

Sorry to be a pain I go back to my MBA 

Your Mills and Boon Annual 2022? Is it out already?