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4 hours ago, ilovesilverireallydo said:

It’s old and guns at 90% silver. Other than that would love some help identifying 

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The clasp looks like it is the pair of hands, hence clasped hands, a friendship symbol, possibly an Irish claddagh or cloddagh symbol.

Wikipedia:

The Claddagh ring (Irish: fáinne Chladaigh) is a traditional Irish ring which represents love, loyalty, and friendship (the hands represent friendship, the heart represents love, and the crown represents loyalty).

 

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39 minutes ago, LawrenceChard said:

The clasp looks like it is the paur of hands, hence clasped hands, a friendship symbol, possibly an Irish claddagh or cloddagh symbol.

Wikipedia:

The Claddagh ring (Irish: fáinne Chladaigh) is a traditional Irish ring which represents love, loyalty, and friendship (the hands represent friendship, the heart represents love, and the crown represents loyalty).

 

Yeah I had it narrowed down to being Irish especially as it has shamrocks on it. Just not sure what it is

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7 minutes ago, Darr3nG said:

Just asked my missus to take a look, and straight away she said, "it's a chain for reading glasses" and that was even before she saw the little hands. Sounds right?

Normally I would say yes, but this weighs over 800gm and each strand is over a metre long…

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56 minutes ago, Darr3nG said:

Just asked my missus to take a look, and straight away she said, "it's a chain for reading glasses" and that was even before she saw the little hands. Sounds right?

I couldn't tell without my reading glasses...

...Must have put them down somewhere... 🙂

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I guess it is only a part from entire object. These hands are made to hold/keep something, possibly a silver vase for burning resins in orthodox ceremonies.

In Orthodox churches, the priest burns specific holy resins  in a metal vessel, usually made of silver, to punish and banish evil spirits That silver bowl is hung by chains, usually richly ornate, and is swings among the Christians gathered at the service to spread holiness and ward off the devils.I

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1 minute ago, stefffana said:

possibly a silver vase for burning resins in orthodox ceremonies

Thought this too, but most of those I've seen in action have 3 or 4 chains (for stability) and some way of being able to lift the lid.

I'm sure the collective minds of TSF are only a few posts away from solving this one! :) 

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1 minute ago, Darr3nG said:

Thought this too, but most of those I've seen in action have 3 or 4 chains (for stability) and some way of being able to lift the lid.

I'm sure the collective minds of TSF are only a few posts away from solving this one! :) 

Yes, it is true, but maybe is missing another similar chain and the holding ring. 

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So just my thoughts on this:

1) - I don't think these are shamrocks depicted on the joints with the handclasps. Generally Shamrocks are depicted as a 3 leaf clover and in Irish history, Saint Patrick used the Shamrock as a metaphor for the holy trinity of the church. Very rarely would a shamrock be depicted as a four leaf clover.

2) - I like the idea of Claddagh clasp hands, but I also think that's not the case. Most of the Claddagh designs have the thumb in alignment with the rest of the fingers with an object in the middle, whereas these clasps have the thumb pointing outwards of the hand / in a fist position (presuming these are moveable parts?).

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So what is it then?

Well, it could be as mentioned a Fleur de Lis, though this would also be an uncommon way of depicting that. I actually think that it's a cuckoo flower design, which is a common wild flower throughout western Asia and majority of Europe.
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Honestly, I'm not quite sure what it is, but I do feel like it's unlikely to be a shamrock / claddagh type design.

Following the topic to see if we can figure it out!

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