Oldun

I managed to get a 2022 Proof using my phone while having a boozy lunch!! I didn't even notice the queue!!

Think about it…..almost all modern silver proofs go down…..just a fact of life…

Think about it…..almost all modern silver proofs go down…..just a fact of life…

I actually kind of like these as a set but not enough to buy one...though I did briefly have the qold quarter in my basket as I would like some kind of jubilee coin.
 These launches piss me off, why must it be a great big secret until the queue forms? It would be nice to see the designs and think before having to spend a fortune rather than being made to decide on a whim as flippers try to snatch it all.
 Maybe best just get a couple of sovereigns as my jubilee coins
 

IMO - I think you have just missed the boat. During covid the flipping of numismatic coins boomed. Coins that many on here would not touch in normal circumstances were being bought up and flipped for many times initial price. I think we are now entering back into normal times. I think the biggest gains from RM releases are in the past. Many will go back to not touching these coins as the last few get burned with what they are holding. 
This is just from the numismatic point of view I have no experience in trying to flip bullion. One main point about flipping is for the best price you need to have it relatively fast because people will pay a premium to send it off for grading to get the first releases label. If you are buying from the RM and you do not get the first batch released you will see your paper profit reduce significantly as each batch is released. Add in RM quality issues and it really is a lottery - if you can get the coin first and good quality then you win. 

Gothics were the last purchase I will ever make direct from the RM. I have been a customer for a few decades now but I am done.

I had forgotten about that page.
We have more examples!
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https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/02/investing/nickel-short-squeeze/index.html

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/02/investing/nickel-short-squeeze/index.html

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/02/investing/nickel-short-squeeze/index.html

https://www.apmex.com/product/64902/1983-mexico-8-coin-silver-libertad-proof-set
 
I bought the set 10 years ago for about £350-£400 on a reputable auction site. All intact, and rare. Even back then, I was surprised I only had to outbid once.

You both make very valid points and it, sadly, all comes down to RM being a Monopoly and don’t they know it. They’ve got the U.K market by the balls.
I’ve tried to buy into the following:
The Great Engravers (after Una and the Lion)
British Monarchs (Henry VII and James I)
Successfully buying none. It happens, you win some, you loose some, it’s life.
But what RM have massively, hugely failed to realise is that they’ve created a new series with very little chance of being able to collect the whole series.
What they’ve also done is create a secondary market of ‘flippers’ (no offence to anyone who wants to sell for over buying price within reason).
Where do numismatists come into this?
Firstly, we don’t, not that I’m professing to be one.
But four releases a year, no way to sign up to the continuity for the rest of the series like they did with The Tudor Beasts. But do so with this series at your own peril, I abandoned The Tudor Beasts after coin 1 in proof.
In my opinion, four releases a year for four years with no guarantee of the rest of the series is a dead duck in the water before it even began.
Imagine that, four times a year for four years, the stress, the anxiety of a possibility that you might complete your series. If you don’t, you’re paying around double the original RM price.
It could and can be a good series but anyone hoping for a a full set, I admire you. Anyone just buying to flip, rethink why you’re here.
Go and look for the originals of these coins that have HISTORY, we fight over a reincarnation of the original and pay a premium and why.
If you ask yourself that question you’ll realise how rediculous it is. Paying more, in some cases for a reincarnation of the original than the original itself.
But in my opinion, pick your cards and play them wisely and I feel this series will have its ‘up’s’ and it’s ‘down’s’, some coins will really be in high demand others not so.
Now, where are the sovereigns....

Didn't like the James I coin..just thought it looked tacky...I'm going to go for the best releases like Henry VIII EDWARD VII And Victoria..I believe its not a series that I will collect all..just the best ones...if the James 1 Is anything to go by there are going to be some very nice ones and some C**P ones...and at a price for 1oz at £95 and 2oz at £185...people must have so.e serious money to buy these coins at well over the value and current spot price..but the ones I mentioned I believe will do very well..and over 5 years...nah..not an option for me....

Dispatch email received for the 3x gothic crown portraits
Fingers crossed for some good ones 

You fast flirt, you

You fast flirt, you

2oz gold "plain edge" Gothic portrait in hand now  
No issues at all by the looks of it - tiny bit of surface dust
Hopefully the plain edge is visible 
Away to safe deposit box now - see you again in retirement, ive only met you for 30 mins  

Thanks for the heads up . 😀

Too many coins too soon with awful qc. They have murdered the market, which is now telling them this…..
The signs were there on the first issue.

Probably @BackyardBullion’s 2,000th special edition celebratory return coin…..

Meanwhile gothic 2oz in stock
https://www.royalmint.com/our-coins/events/the-great-engravers/gothic-crown/gothic-crown-portrait-2021-2oz-silver-proof-coin/

Absolute farce at the RM. They have zero idea how many customers they are upsetting. That is just how poor their operation has become….

Meanwhile gothic 2oz in stock
https://www.royalmint.com/our-coins/events/the-great-engravers/gothic-crown/gothic-crown-portrait-2021-2oz-silver-proof-coin/

Probably @BackyardBullion’s 2,000th special edition celebratory return coin…..

Already full of regret.