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3 minutes ago, Zhorro said:
Good question!
As far as I can tell:
1) Expectation of interest rates coming down? So, gold up? But of course gold was not this high when interest rates were really low.
2) Higher oil prices are pushing up the expectation of inflation? If this is the case, then interest rates are not going to come down? Contradicts 1) above!
3) De-dollarization - so no real incentive for China to sell its gold. Does China really want to sell gold and buy dollars? Other countries are also wanting financial independence following the way the dollar was weaponised against Russia.
4) Countries that hold large amounts of their reserves in dollars are starting to worry about the rate of increase in US Government debt - and so may be diversifying.
5) Anticipation of possible turmoil in the run up to / following US (and UK) elections?
I'm sure there are other reasons as well.
These are excellent points @Zhorro & you are clearly well informed. The $ is relatively stable to £ but the debt that the US & so many countries have makes $ less attractive . If the $ isn’t attractive then gold is one of the alternatives. Of course gold dosent produce an income but a currency can & will lose value vs others if it’s debt servicing costs become unmanageable or politically tricky.
Great points thoughC
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1 hour ago, Paul said:
A Kew gardens gold proof 50p in pf70 never get cheaper the very odd times you see one offered for sale or in auction
Might be worthy of consideration to
Hi @Paul & @Heirlooms
i have a Kew, & most of my low mintage , low 70 grade 50p proofs have been acquired via TSF but over a longer period of time. Some of the members do put some nice coins up.
Kew & the WWF were my first but the lowest ones are those that only come in Annual Sets , so that is Britten 2013 & Team GB 2020. The Olympics were supposed to be 2020 but when it moved to 2021 in Tokyo, due to Covid, the stand alone proof had its date changed to 2021. In both cases there are only 70 issued, & only a couple at 70.
intersting that @Heirlooms has such a great & focussed collection but no 50p proofs. That is the norm it seems.
again , thanks for sharing your milestone & collection. Reminds me of why I collect
Clive
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this is a fantastic collection. And thank you for the name check.
I have some of these coins & in coins I have gone for the quality aspect definitely. Personally I really like Proof coins. The finish is so much nicer, & like you, I have tried to stick with 70 grades.
i have a side collection of the rarer 50p gold proofs, but the 50p coins even the proofs are noticeably unloved and hardly get discussed.
the £200 Queens Beast Completer, is a fantastic coin. My wife, who knows nothing about coins & probably wishes I had never found coins, really likes the design. She much prefers it over the 2012 Sov which I love.
this collection , put together in only 3 years if really fantastic & I hope it can stay complete for a long time. I am sure you are thinking where next, & we will be keen to see where your curiosity & £ takes you.
well done & thank you for taking the time to share Clive
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Lovely. Great purchase @DanPie & a v good offer @NextDayBullion
if I’d seen before Dan I’d have said yes. I do have one , but two is twice as good
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Thank you @CoinCupboard
its not indiscriminate . Regular readers will know I have a Geiger collection but my ‘rules’ allow me to duplicate for good pieces. The 5g is one such & the Geiger capsule sizes w Assay are beautifully presented. I have given one 10g as a wedding present & one 5g as a 60th birthday present so handy as gifts too.
I collected the special year reverse sovs & now trying to collect the ‘good’ years Britannias. I have these years in 1oz but not fractional so a good buy for my collection if I have been successful
clive
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Both please
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wow. That is some set. From your comment toward the end of your description, does being in the UK mean that there will be taxes to pay here, using the DHL route ?
Superb set and there are collectors of space coins. I have a couple myself inc small commemorative coins from the early space US program .
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As @Spyder says, 1994 was a non-bullion year, so there are only just over 7k sovs in total. Karl has good options & you can change your marriage year thru divorce, but you can never change your birth year. You’ll be 30 this year and 50 in 20 years time.
I bought a stunning set recently for my wife for a couple of years time for our 35 anniversary . Won’t be many of those then around in a proof 70
and the great 2002 sets will make fantastic presents for numismatics to give to their spouses for silver weddings in 2027 . The greatest, the 2012 won’t be silver wedding material till 2037
the other idea for 1992 if a Sov is too much, is an Olympics silver set. 1992was Barcelona & there must be great sets at good prices for that event.
Even years have Olympics or World Cups.
let us know what you get & happy 30th birthday for whenever !!
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@James32 thank you for the note & @1817Karl I do have one of these but I am still in my collecting phase, so not looking to diminish
as James highlighted, @GoldDiggerDavehas good access to collectors & owners & might be in a better place to procure.
I also have one of the rare sovs you were looking for a few days ago, but again it’s a collection piece and I paid a lot for it. But if your client REALLY wants it, then i guess everything is up for sale & I can put it toward building my putative & so far largely theoretical 1887 proof set .
I’d have confidence that Dave might come up trumps, & hope he does.
it’s pleasing to see some of my nice coins being in circulating request lists.
good luck
Clive
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7 minutes ago, James32 said:Were you buying 3 years ago?
I started collecting in 2014 after a dabble with an element collection in 2012-14. I bought gold, platinum, palladium & rhodium. And not sold apart from 2 Rhodium bars near the ‘peak’
but I don’t trade & obviously recent coins are lovely but the prices haven’t sustained. Good I am a collector , of special & rare pieces. The gold rise is interesting but might price a lot of collectors out, & limit many more. Boom & bust ???
very interesting thread .
clive
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that looks like an active screen I haxe seen day traders using ? Can I ask are you trading or watching ?
also the green interspersed w red. What do the red bars signify ? Falling prices ?
thank you for the very much real-time graphsclive
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Thank you @GoodAsGold , & great username by the way
the market is weird at the moment & great coins are coming up, and some haxe surprisingly little real interest. I’ll cite this one & the 1989 2sov but also on Facebook there is a 1989 5sov 70 that has very surprisingly hung around longer than might be expected. Maybe this is the new normal and we can all expect to add exceptional coins to our collections at will. We’ll see
delighted though by my latest trade w @GoldDiggerDave
clive
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Totally agreed. My first Sov purchases were the 1/2, 1 & 2sov in this year, although ngc rather than PGCS. I had been ambivalent being an element then bullion pm bar collector, & didn’t ‘get’ coins. But I did when I got my small 1989 set & a 2012 single & I was off. Like @JamesH said. Someone should buy this as a collectors piece & v v likely an investment
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Great. I was checking you hadn’t accepted @James32 ‘s very tempting and competitive offer
thank you . I’ll sort the ££ once your PM arrives
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Dave
this is an astounding price for a perfect great coin. Think I should own it & wait for market to recover somewhat.
I’ll take it please & we’ll be meeting soon I hope so put my name on it & I’ll pay your chosen account .
thank you to @9x883 for the heads up to this post. My email alerts have disappeared again !! Aaaaarghclive
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3 minutes ago, Spyder said:
Could this interest you @cliveb13?
Thank you @Spyder
i don’t collect the £1 coins. I have none separate & likely only 1-2 as part of sets.
I do collect 50ps , but the rare ones & only in 70. Kew , WWF , Britten, Ironside etc .
so thank you for the nudge for not for me on this occasion. I like the rare 50p proofs. It’s what I started my coin collection with .
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Yay. I won. Not like last weekend when sniper man @WolfStacker stealthily bid in the dying embers of the auction
tonight we were watching S3 of True Detective & I was sure my bid would be swallowed up.
lovely bar. Delighted & will sort £££ tmw morning . As others will attest I pay my debts. Thank u @KRO for the auction & others for the entertainmentsame time next weekend ??
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Thank you @motorbikez
this is a great coin , and perfect too. I am sure someone will be delighted to own & display this. I have bought some older coins & spent up for just now
good luck Darren
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@Agaupl that summary from Macleod is interesting about demand shift intra day
I have some bullion to sell for end of tax year but when I looked find a price from a dealer to compare & set my price as -1% , I could not find anything in stock. If dealers have pre sold their next shipments at £1700 say & the price is now £1775 or whatever that is gonna stress.
thank you
C