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For those that have seen the John Wick movies, bar this website https://www.apmex.com/product/193803/john-wick-1-oz-gold-continental-coin
Is anyone aware of anywhere else selling it. I know you can get it in silver aswell, but I for one would prefer the GOLD version.

 
 
I've seen a couple of youtube videos speculating on the mintage, and the actual value of it within that fictional movie universe.
Which peaked my intrest for getting one of these coins because . . . it looks smart and has latin on it haha.
Dont mess with another mans stack...or puppy

The latest RM annual report, dated 24th June 2021 has been published, and is available online here:
https://www.royalmint.com/globalassets/__rebrand/_structure/about-us/annual-reports/reports/2020_21-royal_mint_limited_annual_report-p1-web.pdf
I have not read it yet, but according to the Daily Telegraph yesterday, they:
attracted 25,000 new investors to its precious metals division.
doubled sales of gold and silver
made £12.4 million profit before tax compared with £200K los the previous year
triggered an employee bonus of £3.2 million.
So, I reckon:
That's 25,000 people paid too much for their gold and silver bullion coins last year.
@ChardsCoinandBullionDealer are missing out here. Must try harder! 🙂

We weren't the first stackers as this picture illustrates.
Many of us jokingly comment about burying our coins in the back garden.
Well there is no shame in that but when you forget about your buried treasure and your secret isn't shared then it can take 2,000 years for your ancestors to uncover your stack.
This batch was valued at around £10 million and I took the pictures during a visit a few days ago.
 

 

 

 

Happy metal detecting !
 

No idea if this will include proof coins or just a new bullion version for 2021 but it looks like 9am sees a new release from the Royal Mint.
https://www.royalmint.com/our-coins/events/gold-standard/
Judging on the cover photo it looks like a proof 1 oz gold version maybe?
 
Big fan of the 1/4 oz gold versions they have had a few times - not sure how I feel about an expensive proof version but if this is bullion in 1 oz gold then.....

I apologize if this topic has been covered; I did a quick search and did not find anything similar.    I came across the following information and wanted to share, as I thought it was quite intriguing.
Note: I am not advocating whether or not a person should stack.  This is a personal decision, and is based on many factors such as your personal circumstances, your financial goals, your personal beliefs in holding precious metals, etc.  Always discuss financial matters with your financial advisor on what is the correct path you should take.  What is the right decision for one person may not be appropriate for another. 
You may agree or disagree with the posted content, and I look forward to hearing your comments.   Please keep in mind that the charts below is based on old gold price of USD $1,300 and old silver price of USD $20, which needs to be taken into consideration.  Link to the website I copied/pasted from:  How Much Gold and Silver is Needed for Financial Crises (goldsilver.com)
 
 
Here's How Much Gold and Silver You Need for the Crises
Most of you reading this are already convinced of the need to own gold and silver. But as you continue to accumulate, a question naturally arises: how much do you need?
Imagine the sick feeling in your gut if we get to the next financial crisis and you suddenly realize you didn’t buy enough bullion to get through it. For this reason alone, it’s worth thinking about how many ounces you might need.
More and more investors are recognizing this, and we receive questions about it. The wording varies, but the basic question is the same: how much physical gold or silver should I own to be in good shape should an economic crisis hit?
Why Traditional Advice is Meaningless in a Crisis
Traditional financial advice is that gold should comprise 5-10 percent of assets, or 10-20 percent if you’re not including home equity. But Mike and I are convinced that amount won’t cut it in the turmoil we believe is ahead. What passes for “normal” advice could be financially devastating in abnormal times. Furthermore, the lower your overall net worth, the less meaningful these percentages are. And in a time of crisis, you will need absolutes, not percentages.
If you’ve struggled to determine if you have enough physical gold and silver, GoldSilver has created a practical guide for you. This measuring stick is a more effective way to gauge if your allocation will be sufficient.
What You’re Doing with Your Precious Metals
Which brings up a rather obvious question: when you sell your stash, what will you do with the proceeds?
There will be plenty of options that run the gamut of practicality, whether that means buying undervalued investments, building a family fortune, buying a vacation home or supplementing your income during the crisis.
The point is, you will buy something with those proceeds.
And that is the starting point in knowing if you have enough ounces: will your stash be sufficient to support your standard of living during a major financial disorder? And there is no single right answer to this question. In other words, you shouldn’t just ask “how much silver does Mike Maloney own?” and base your buying habits on that (though I’m sure he’d be flattered). Each person’s circumstances are different, and that means having a unique strategy for yours.
What to Expect During the Crises
A “major financial disorder” will include inflation, of course, but it’ll be much more than that. The global economy is likely to undergo a series of crises, only one of which will be inflationary.
And those crises won’t resolve quickly. As a result, we need to be prepared to weather all storms that hit our economy, markets and monetary system, even if they last for several years. We’ll be living through the entire transition period. And that means we may need to supplement, or fully support, our standard of living during that time.
It is with this reality in mind that the following tables were created.
I calculated how much gold and silver you would need based on two factors: 1) your monthly expenses, and 2) how long the crisis period lasts.
(Note: the chart assumes the gold price keeps up with inflation, though history shows it is likely to far surpass CPI readings. If so, it’s possible we’d need less than what is shown. It also assumes you pay the taxes from another source.)
Here’s the table for gold:

To determine how much gold you should buy, find the monthly expense amount that will support or replace your current standard of living, and then match it to the duration. If you want to supplement your expenses by $500/month and the crises last three years, you would need about 14 ounces of gold to get through it. If you want to cover $3,000 in monthly expenses, you’d need 45 ounces to meet a crisis period of two years, and 90 ounces if it lasts four years. Those already well off or who want to live like Mike or Alex should use the bottom rows of the table.
Of course, we own silver, too. Here's how many ounces you’d need if you’re using silver proceeds, again assuming the price keeps up with inflation.

A $500/month supplement would need 300 ounces of silver to get through one year, or 1,500 ounces for five years.

If you want $3,000/month, you’ll need 1,800 ounces for one year, or 9,000 if it lasts five years.

Of course, we can use both gold and silver to meet expenses. For $1,000/month, you’ll need nine ounces of gold and 600 ounces of silver to get through a two-year crisis period.

These amounts may look high, but keep in mind that if you don't save in gold and silver now, you'll be forced to spend a whole lot more in currency later.

These tables show how practical gold and silver can be. They really can be used to protect our standard of living — and even improve it if the price of precious metals rises during times of crisis like they have in the past.

So how much gold and silver do you need? I hope these tables show what you need to accumulate.

Once they have the means and will to track assets, they'll make sure they track it accurately including private transactions.  No good claiming you have no gold if dont have whats expected from the record, they'll tax you on assumption you disposed of it.  
On the other hand naff all chance they'll get something this complex to implementation.

For the record I dont own any metals, never have, never will. When I purchase on here its for a friend.
Anyway, since that is out the way…
This was inevitable regarding the database. Its been planned for decades.

Look at turkey they are asking people to surrender gold!

Governments love a database.  
They love knowing what to tax. 

And probably becuase the ECB is broke also!

I read on yahoo the amount of available cash and the amount they bought of gold and dividing the two it's just over 2% of their available cash. Probably wouldn't call it "backing up the truck" but it isn't an insignificant amount of money. 
Certainly interesting 

As some of you may know, Palantir is a technology company that does "spy" stuff for the CIA, sovereign states, etc.   So when the news came out that they bought $50M in gold bars, it definitely raises some eyebrows.   The conspiracy side of me wants to think that they got some secret information from their data analysis, and they are buying gold to hedge against it.   But the flip side of conspiracy me wants to think that it's just an unorthodox method of diversifying risk for a company.  What do you think?
 
Link: Palantir bought $50 million in gold bars in August as cash accumulates (cnbc.com)
 
While some companies such as Tesla are diversifying into bitcoin, data analytics software company Palantir is betting on gold. Palantir bought $50 million in gold bars in August, the company disclosed in its latest earnings statement.
The move reflects a growing company stashing cash in an unconventional asset in response to economic uncertainty spurred by the coronavirus pandemic and governments’ response to it.
  The price of an ounce of gold crossed the $2,000 mark for the first time last year as the pandemic worsened and U.S. government stimulus efforts continued. This year investors have more loudly voiced concerns about inflation, and gold is sometimes viewed as a hedge against inflation, although prices are down 7% for the year. Some investors have thought cryptocurrencies might also serve that role.
“During August 2021, the Company purchased $50.7 million in 100-ounce gold bars,” Palantir said in the Aug. 12 earnings statement for its fiscal second quarter. “Such purchase will initially be kept in a secure third-party facility located in the northeastern United States and the Company is able to take physical possession of the gold bars stored at the facility at any time with reasonable notice.”
Palantir did not respond to a request for comment on the investment.
After completing a direct listing and debuting on the New York Stock Exchange in September, Palantir is now debt-free, the company’s finance chief, Dave Glazer, told analysts on a conference call last week. Revenue has accelerated for two consecutive quarters, with 20 new customers joining in the fiscal second quarter.
Palantir is investing to grow, bringing on more than 100 salespeople in the past two quarters, and plans call for hiring to continue at a fast pace, Glazer said.
  The company remains unprofitable, as it was as a privately held company. Meanwhile, its supply of cash has been increasing, in part thanks to stock issuance and proceeds from the exercise of stock options.
That has given Palantir an opportunity to invest in its own customers, including early stage companies, which are very different from existing government customers such as the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. Among the investments are companies that have gone public through mergers with special-purpose acquisition companies, such as AdTheorent, Fast Radius, FinAccel and Tritium, according to the earnings statement.
It’s possible that following the gold investment, Palantir could expand into cryptocurrencies. In May, after Glazer was asked on an analyst call if the company could have bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies on its balance sheet, he said, “The short answer is, yes, we’re thinking about it, and we’ve even discussed internally.”

Morgan Dollars: How Many Have Survived the Silver Melting Pot?
 
By: Jordan Graveline
07/18/21
 
The following is an experiment used to determine approximately how many Morgan Dollars have survived 100 years after the last Morgan Dollars were minted. Using a computer program, three different sets of data were normalized against one another, creating an approximation of the number of coins destroyed and the number of coins remaining. The computer program utilized various algorithms to compare the data of known certified quantities, against the prices of standard grades of MS63, AU50, XF40, & VF25, against the overall mintages of each year/mint mark. The program was run a total of three times to flag and isolate any discrepancies for manual review.
 
The first data set used comes from the population reports of the third party grading services of PCGS, NGC, ICG, and ANACS. This data set was used to provide a probable base in the number of coins that have survived having been graded and verified by these companies.
 
The second data set used was the average price for particular years/mint marks at the standard grades of MS63, AU50, XF40, & VF25. This data was used to estimate the rarity of a coin based on exponential price increases between grades. The price algorithm would search for rarity of low mintages or low survival rates based on the results of any exponential price increases and flag them.
 
The third and final data set used was the percent change of a particular year/mint mark. To accomplish this, the computer program compared a coin’s original mintage for a particular year/mint mark and the total mintage for that same year across all mint marks vs. the number of certified coins of that same year/mint mark over the total number of certified coins of that same year across all mint marks. This is again using data from the top four third party grading services of PCGS, NGC, ICG, and ANACS.
 
The following chart has been derived from the analysis of the above data in order to estimate how many Morgan Dollars and which years and mint marks have potentially survived. The data used does not take into consideration the different varieties within any given year/mint mark or proof strikes of the Morgan Dollar, but rather only the business strikes intended for circulation.
 
Year/Mint Mark
 
No Mark - Philadelphia
S - San Francisco
O - New Orleans
CC - Carson City
D - Denver
Total Mintage
Approximate Number of Coins Destroyed
Approximate Number of Coins Remaining
1878
10,508,800
9,204,915
1,303,885
1878-S
9,774,000
8,185,840
1,588,160
1878-CC
2,212,000
1,711,804
500,196
1879
14,806,000
13,016,337
1,789,663
1879-S
9,110,000
4,070,899
5,039,101
1879-O
2,887,000
1,318,794
1,568,206
1879-CC
756,000
344,956
411,044
1880
12,600,000
10,546,256
2,053,744
1880-S
8,900,000
4,372,039
4,527,961
1880-O
5,305,000
3,397,317
1,907,683
1880-CC
591,000
182,501
408,499
1881
9,163,000
7,898,396
1,264,604
1881-S
12,760,000
5,362,331
7,397,669
1881-O
5,708,000
3,841,145
1,866,855
1881-CC
296,000
17,938
278,062
1882
11,100,000
9,833,956
1,266,044
1882-S
9,250,000
4,167,377
5,082,623
1882-O
6,090,000
4,567,034
1,522,966
1882-CC
1,133,000
510,948
622,052
1883
12,290,000
8,714,382
3,575,618
1883-S
6,250,000
5,258,136
991,864
1883-O
8,725,000
3,289,077
5,435,923
1883-CC
1,204,000
595,148
608,852
1884
14,070,000
12,168,416
1,901,584
1884-S
3,200,000
2,304,709
895,291
1884-O
9,730,000
4,727,355
5,002,645
1884-CC
1,136,000
546,515
589,485
1885
17,787,000
15,637,230
2,149,770
1885-S
1,497,000
1,075,690
421,310
1885-O
9,185,000
3,746,894
5,438,106
1885-CC
238,000
102,047
135,953
1886
19,963,000
14,711,985
5,251,015
1886-S
750,000
211,379
538,621
1886-O
10,710,000
9,980,457
729,543
1887
20,290,000
14,383,404
5,906,596
1887-S
1,771,000
1,062,971
708,029
1887-O
11,550,000
9,931,205
1,618,795
1888
19,183,000
16,419,891
2,763,109
1888-S
657,000
182,679
474,321
1888-O
12,150,000
10,531,020
1,618,980
1889
21,726,000
12,185,473
9,540,527
1889-S
700,000
231,583
468,417
1889-O
11,875,000
7,886,394
3,988,606
1889-CC
350,000
315,791
34,209
1890
16,802,000
12,961,580
3,840,420
1890-S
8,230,373
5,845,077
2,385,296
1890-O
10,701,000
8,279,552
2,421,448
1890-CC
2,309,041
1,623,163
685,878
1891
8,693,556
6,592,889
2,100,667
1891-S
5,296,000
3,088,967
2,207,033
1891-O
7,954,529
6,240,453
1,714,076
1891-CC
1,618,000
947,283
670,717
1892
1,036,000
261,060
774,940
1892-S
1,200,000
847,797
352,203
1892-O
2,744,000
1,606,755
1,137,245
1892-CC
1,352,000
1,111,202
240,798
1893
378,000
55,682
322,318
1893-S
100,000
70,809
29,191
1893-O
300,000
88,598
211,402
1893-CC
677,000
628,777
48,223
1894
110,000
44,976
65,024
1894-S
1,260,000
682,693
577,307
1894-O
1,723,000
1,138,762
584,238
1895-S
400,000
342,459
57,541
1895-O
450,000
268,489
181,511
1896
9,976,000
3,194,483
6,781,517
1896-S
5,000,000
4,243,528
756,472
1896-O
4,900,000
3,523,473
1,376,527
1897
2,822,000
1,406,207
1,415,793
1897-S
5,825,000
4,040,129
1,784,871
1897-O
4,004,000
2,262,022
1,741,978
1898
5,884,000
4,236,033
1,647,967
1898-S
4,102,000
3,231,534
870,466
1898-O
4,440,000
1,988,803
2,451,197
1899
330,000
53,205
276,795
1899-S
2,562,000
1,528,007
1,033,993
1899-O
12,290,000
8,072,414
4,217,586
1900
8,830,000
5,620,780
3,209,220
1900-S
3,540,000
2,470,112
1,069,888
1900-O
12,590,000
7,902,297
4,687,703
1901
6,962,000
6,178,362
783,638
1901-S
2,284,000
1,407,651
876,349
1901-O
13,320,000
9,176,294
4,143,706
1902
7,994,000
6,763,568
1,230,432
1902-S
1,530,000
1,041,300
488,700
1902-O
8,636,000
3,735,298
4,900,702
1903
4,652,000
2,825,769
1,826,231
1903-S
1,241,000
933,662
307,338
1903-O
4,450,000
4,162,487
287,513
1904
2,788,000
1,859,225
928,775
1904-S
2,304,000
1,840,819
463,181
1904-O
3,720,000
1,858,154
1,861,846
1921
44,690,000
24,809,062
19,880,938
1921-S
21,695,000
15,836,713
5,858,287
1921-D
20,345,000
13,988,554
6,356,446
Total
656,977,299
451,667,582
205,309,717
Data for original mintages sourced from: https://morgandollars.net/morgan-dollar-mintage/
 
 
***DISCLAIMER***
 
It cannot be known for certain which particular years and mint marks have escaped the melting pot and in what quantities. As the history of the Morgan Dollar goes, no records were ever kept of which Morgan Dollars were turned into silver bullion for Great Britain in 1918 or how many dollars were melted down in the great silver run of 1979-1980. This experiment is intended to show the normalization of three different types of data in order to give the best approximation of which Morgans remain and in what quantities.
 
***END OF DISCLAIMER***
 
While the quantities of the various Morgan Dollars will always be up for debate, the one thing that remains consistent is the dollars with low mintages are always in demand. Even if a high percentage of low mintage coins have escaped the melting pots of time, the majority of that mintage could have been placed into circulation. In considering this information, a high survival rate for a low mintage coin can still drive up the rarity of the coin in uncirculated conditions.
 
Even with 100 years having passed since the last Morgans were struck, a healthy stock still exists overall. Some years/mint marks remain unobtainable for most collectors, but a person could put together a collection of Morgans with one from each year without breaking the bank. Of the nearly 657 million coins that were struck, a possible 205 million coins still exist today. Based on the analysis of the data, the top rarest coins by surviving mintage only (rounded to the nearest 1,000) are as follows:

 
1893-S            ~29,000 1889-CC         ~34,000 1893-CC         ~48,000 1895-S            ~58,000 1894                ~65,000 1885-CC         ~136,000 1895-O            ~182,000 1893-O            ~211,000 1892-CC         ~241,000 1899                ~277,000 1881-CC          ~278,000 1903-O            ~288,000 1903-S             ~307,000 1893                ~322,000 1892-S             ~352,000

Thank you for sharing. Do you know if it due to the restrictions around non essential businesses running during the pandemic (i.e. the mining capacity of the mint is currently limited or on pause?) and this supply issue of silver also being combined with an increased demand currently. I haven't researched into it myself, but an interesting topic.

I emailed John Adams, to invite him to join the forum if he isn't already a member here, as he likely has some interesting information and knowledge to share  

Intresting story @Foster88. What really goads me is the lack of value that the these medals bring WWI and WWII, standard issue medals in the regions where they are issued - dont get much money, becuase they were produced in abundence . As someone whose served 6 operational tours - one of my medals is worth 1500£, becuase it a was rare tour. If I did half the things that some of these brave blokes did and the stories behind them, the value does it no justice!
Im not complaining because my medals are quite expensive as a set, but I feel sorry those fought in the some most difficult conditions ever and thier family got nothing and we owe it all to them! 
The history is and bravery is unsurmountable. And many didnt live to tell the tale - some were kids. Lest we forget!

I have a big interest in WW1 history.
It’s a long story that I’ll share and post here but as concise as I can. But my family history in WW1 would make a great film. A sad one but a good film.
It will be good to discuss the medals and the stories behind the WW1 medals that we’ve bought here on the forum.
To keep a long story concise, ish, I knew about my grandads uncle’s from a young age. They were known, to me at least as the O’nions brothers. Their medals were sold in the 1980’s.
So anyway, on a random Sunday night in Sept 2012 I researched them online.
It was almost an itch I had to scratch, the seed was sown from a young age. My grandad had talked a lot about his uncles and I had to know more about this branch of my family. My grandad died age 91 in early 2009 but perhaps he felt a duty to ‘keep them alive’ which in a way I suppose he has done. I’ve told my niece about them and she talked about them in school on the anniversary of the centenary of the end of WW1 in 2018.
I always wondered who were the O’nions brothers (pronounced oh’ nions, possibly onions 🤔) that my grandad kept talking about? So that Sunday night, post roast dinner I sat down and thought, I’ve never googled them, so I did and lo and behold I found their medals for sale, not just a single medal but all three brothers and their fathers medals.
I contacted the dealer and I met him at a military fair in Stockport. He told me he only listed them to his website that Sunday evening and thought he’d struggle to sell such a large family group. Now I’m not one to believe in spooky, maybe fate but something told me that evening to look online and I found them all.
The medals of John O’nions (my g-g grand father) his sons Jack O’nions, Arthur O’nions and Edward O’nions.
Once lockdown is over and we get back to some normality as a world I’m going to visit France and Jonchery-sur-Vesle cemetery. So I can pay my respects to my g-g uncle CSM Arthur Onions DCM 9880 South Lancs Regiment who enlisted on 14th August 1914 at the outbreak of war. He almost made it until he was killed on 31 May 1918. I’ll also go to see Edward O’nions grave who died in 1922 and is now buried in Douglas I.O.M. he died from his wounds sustained in WW1. 
As for Jack, who served in the Army Veterinary Corps and who was the only one of the brothers to survive WW1, he later became a horse stunt rider in 1920’s silent films in USA. He moved back to Kentucky and rode under the name of Albert Steadman and Jacky English. He first emigrated in 1909 aged just 20, he sailed from Liverpool and arrived into New York harbour just three years before the Titanic never did. After WW1 he’s a total mystery. He disappears after the war and I can find very little about him.
I could tell you much more about these brothers but, I tried and I didn’t keep it very concise did I. 😬
Anyway, it would be great to see and follow and research the medals bought from @ilovesilverireallydo

They look much nicer in a capsule.

We've bought a few 1oz silver ones for some future TSF Prize Draws  

Gold and Silver 1 oz arrived today. Pic of the gold attached. Happy with them - quick delivery from the RM as well.   

A speck of something in the case but this will be put away for a long time (or I'll get a case) 
Doesn't take away from her beauty though! 

Love mine. They look great next to my Britannias. 

🙈 Cheers Sir, worth it for these though do you think?

10 Oz Silver mintage is 6,100, i believe.
 
 

2021 1 OZ GREAT BRITAIN THE GREAT ENGRAVERS COLLECTION - UNA AND THE LION .9999 SILVER BAR
1 oz gold mintage 4000
10 oz silver 6100
100 ounce   1200 
1 ounce 35000 
the mintage is low especially the one ounce bars 

Nobody has mentioned a big winner from all the UK dealers "selling out" of silver....the VAT man. A cool 20% on every purchase from this weekends hype and talk....
Taxman always wins 😉
I feel sorry for the people that didn't know better and are sitting on £33/Oz Britannia when the look at the buy back prices tomorrow