CollectorNo1

10 minutes ago, AndrewSL76 said:

Two more times. Go on. I dare you.

Gold + Silver..doubt it....Gold + Copper deff...so the 2022 platinum jubilee coin is going to be PINK....🤔🙄🙄😷🙄 I just don't like this copper coloured composition..but guess I will still buy one..the cheapest...1/2 or Full sov..but no sets,piedforts or,£5 sov..I just hate the colour's of these modern sovs....but just my opinion 🙂🙂🙂🙂

8 minutes ago, paulmerton said:

It depends when the prices are set. Gold proof coins are usually a fixed price that doesn't dynamically change depending on the spot price of gold (the hefty premium gives them a lot of safety room!) and the prices would have been set some time ago so other retailers would know what they are. So even though the price of gold has shot up quite a bit over the past week, you could reasonably expect them to be priced a bit less than your guess  

That's great info...👍👍

Anyone got any predictions on the price of the proof sov??

21 minutes ago, Stacktastic said:

Are these milk spots lads one large one and 3-4 smaller ones. 
one of my one oz Tudor proofs. 

Im sending this and the 2oz back this week - is there a limited time period?? 

The colour looks like toning but its just the photo. 
Otherwise spot on!! 

It's deff marked and looks like early milkspots 🥺

Great timing by the RM Gold prices going up in the last few weeks gonna put an extra few hundred pounds on the premiums 😆😆😒😒

Just got confirmation myself..First time I've recd notice instead of 3 hours after a special coin has been released😲🙂🙂

21 minutes ago, Centauri167 said:

Is it so that the Perth mint coins are the safest buy if you don't want milk spotting ?

No silver coins will be free of possible milkspotting..but the Perth mint coins seem to have lesser spotting than most silver coins..their quality control is No:1 in my opinion....Canadian Maples from 2018 onwards have introduced their mintshield protection tech which seems to be reducing spotting significantly....wish they would share their secret with the Royal mint..(No chance) but I believe the RM could invest in their own technology and research and incorporate a mintshield process to improve their coins.....but they won't invest the money and continue to pump out coins with problems...imo they really don't care about their QC, as long as people continue to buy their products with high premiums knowing that we are willing to continue receiving coins that are sent out with spotting scrapes,dents etc....and that we are continually sending back time and time again to be replaced or refunded....We get generic replies and pathetic excuses all the time from the RM! .....why would they invest in technology to eradicate spotting etc, Its going to cost them money..

Until the day when we all say..enough is enough they might listen. But that day will never come because we all continue to buy knowing its a 50/50% chance we will receive a coin in proof condition.

It's like queuing...the English moan about queuing but do not speak out.... and just accept it, its not cricket......😆😆😆😆😆😆

57 minutes ago, KevinFlynn said:

That is one sexy lady 😗

Really nice design...👍

1 hour ago, Pete said:

Spotted or not, basic common bullion coins are priced with quite a spread depending on where they are sold, when and the last minute ( eBay panic buyers - sometimes but not always ).
Usually a clean coin will attract a slightly higher price than a marked one but not always; maybe within the difference between 1st and 2nd class postage.
As for special edition and proofs - personally I wouldn't want to pay anything much over regular bullion, so yes the premium can be lost forever.
I had multiple collections of proof Canadian fine silver coins, all certified with fancy box etc., but ended up selling for scrap.
Originally I planned to hold for a long time believing a later generation would see the rarity and history but once the spots appeared that killed it for me.

I now avoid all proof premium silver coins for this very reason.

Trying to remove milkiness with an eraser - impossible to avoid surface damage and fine scratches that will show up but who cares if it is just common bullion ?
A dull, stained Maple or Phillie is an eyesore and is really only worth its weight at spot to a dealer so give it a buff and at least have it looking "precious", nice and shiny !
I have cleaned milk stains by re-polishing the surface using jewellers rouge and a Dremel but if the coin is not highly polished to start with - i.e. a satin finish you will change its appearance which would be very noticeable.
Anything numi or semi numi LEAVE WELL ALONE if you are contemplating selling at a later date as it could loose a lot of its premium if touched.

100% agree with you comments.

3 hours ago, danmc82 said:

Maple Leafs for me.

Pre 2018😡😡😡😡😡

7 minutes ago, blackadder said:

lol not good is it you know we are all just getting other peoples returns right.

Right.......the RM won't mint any new coins etc..they will just send out the coins that other people who are not happy with and have sent back.... to other clients....🙄

Forgive my views if I offend those who purchase these coins from the RM. I never intended on purchasing this series of the TB's.. ,reading the problems with the QB's and especially the 2oz 10 coin proof set set with a mintage of 300 that have had so many problems and have been sent back by forum members only to receive an inferior replacement.

I received a Seymour Panther which was a present/Surprise, it had a a scuff mark on the rim....but I won't send it back as was a present....I've read horrid accounts of members continuing to  send this coin back many times and receiving back coins with errors..scratches,spots,broken capsules  etc..... I don't want to go on about the Quality control or lack off....but WHY!!!! Are we purchasing these coins knowing its a 50/50 chance we are going to receive a coin that doesn't have errors???? 

Members complain about the Quality control on these before they are sent out,but we except the fact when purchasing this series as with the QB's that we are going to receive a coin with damage?????

Imo..the Royal mint don't give a flying **** on the condition they send their so called Proof coins out to us which is confirmed by members uploading photos of their purchases with problems...

If any company that sent out any items that we paid for continously time after time....they would be closed down for inferior products so the question is..........WHY!!!!!! Does the Royal Mint seem to be impervious and protected in their disgusting quality control and in house lack of management that they can produce inferior coins.. and have unprofessional staff... who really don't care regarding sending c**p out to us who buy their products?

Isn't their an organisation that inspects and overseas the Royal mints Quality control dept that has the final say before they box up and send us their coins with scratches,marks,spotting,cracked capsules, inadequate packaging to name just a few before we receive what we pay for and expect...

I guess the question is...do we put up with this all the time and going forward receiving the same standards from the RM....Or do we actually do something about it instead of complaining on here about the c**p coins we receive every time a new coin or,series that they produce?????????

SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE..INSTEAD OF COMPLAINING 

Personally I won't be buying this series..I don't want the stress of waiting for a coin only to find it has scratches,spots etc....too much stress and don't want to keep sending them back only to receive a coin that is worse....but I know a few will agree and more will take the chance and gamble on what they receive....BUT THE RM HAVE ALOT OF ISSUES WITH THEIR MINTING THAT DOESNT IMPROVE DESPITE ALL THE COMPLAINTS THEY RECEIVE? WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU??????

REGARDS.

28 minutes ago, HerefordBullyun said:

I spoke to the RM today to pay for my 2oz Beast today and said to the customer services dont sent me any tat, as i said I was TSF member and there was lot going back, so I am waiting with baited breath to see what turn ups

Well as I see it there are no mints that can gaurentee sending you the coins you expect when you purchase.  ...bullion or proof! But I would trust the Perth mint or the RAM to dispatch their coins in much finer condition, packaging than our Royal mint has and have done in the past!!!!!

But, that my opinion, others will disagree....

Still say the Perth mint is the BEST!!! But just my opinion.......The Royal Mint is way down the list with their milkspots, scratches,capsules unfitted and the general concensus of inferior products that are dispatched with quality control **** ups....if you can tell me more I.E Perfect proof coins with no problems I'd love to know?????

27 minutes ago, Bigmarc said:

At my age I never trust a fart 🚽🧻

When I go for a S**T or pass wind...I now say....I'm going or gonna have a Royal Mint...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

27 minutes ago, Stuntman said:

AFAIK - as far as I know.

I've got a couple of 1860 bronze pennies so I'll just go and have a look at those and report back...

Reporting back:

I've checked my two 1860 pennies and my 1876 and 1889 pennies.  All have a plain edge,  There is also nothing in my copy of Freeman's 'The Bronze Coinage of Great Britain 1860-1970' that mentions an 1861 penny with a milled edge.

Not looking good I'm afraid, it would suggest that it's 'post-mint damage'.

Thanks for the info..really appreciate it..so you think it's a minting error?

Regards

So when did Richard Branson start appearing on coins....😆

16 minutes ago, Stuntman said:

Copper Victoria pennies and halfpennies all have plain edges AFAIK.

Thanks for the reply.. what does AFAIK Mean???? And if I said I had an 1861 milled edge would you say that is a forgery or a minting error?

Regards.

Does anyone know if any Victorian pennies or half pennies had a milled edges or are they all plain edge?

Thanks.

44 minutes ago, dikefalos said:

Do you mean, there is coming a US Mint and Royal Mint music legends 2 coin set The Bangles / Spice Girls? 

Error no..just saying when the 2022 sov and gothic comes out presumably on a Monday...its going to be Manic....

5 minutes ago, Mtaybar said:

Agreed 🤣

Well we all know what's coming up with the 2022 Sov and the Great Engravers Gothic..for us all its going to be..........

Gonna go for everything  that's on sale and hope for the best......probably end up with Zilch..😆😆😆😆

5 minutes ago, Richiesilver said:

A nice ms63 sov and yet more Venezuelan silver 🙂

Very nice especially the Perth Sov..

18 minutes ago, daca said:

Pirate Queens series is starting to be a favorite of mine.

Ditto..love the Anne B....looking fwd to the next ones..

6 minutes ago, Stacktastic said:

funny mark on the side of my 2oz - is this a major issue? 
I guess its machine mark of some sort? 

The rest looks OK to me? 

Do I send this back? After waiting flipping ages its a bit annoying. 

I had exactly the same mark on mine...it was a present so havnt sent it back..but!! I never expect a perfect coin from the RM..🙄