SilverMaple

Still waiting on my sovereign, was told today that it was dispatched on Monday so 🤞.

9 hours ago, AppleZippoandMetronome said:

Decline anything they try to sell you. Much like Westminster Collection, CPM Coins and no doubt others out there Harrington and Byrne make their money charging unsuspecting people absolutely rediculous premiums for stuff that will never be worth what they're selling them for. They all throw out decent offers like this every now and then but its their version of fishing...  dangle the cheap bullion in the hopes of catching a much bigger, much more profitable sale. Buy the bullion but walk away from anything else.

You are completely correct! I ordered some Battle of Britain 1oz silver bars from CPM a few months ago. Price was reasonable about £25 each. Since then I’ve received 6 letters through the post with their company logo on. The coins they advertise are extortionate in price. “Collectable  this...limited edition that” ... anything designed to be collectable usually isn’t a good investment. These marked letters just let the postman/woman know and potentially neighbours that you have precious metal coins at home. 🎯 

Ordered the £299 2021 gold sovereign yesterday from Harrington and Byrne.

Sign up email and confirmation email went straight to trash inbox. Payment has cleared. Checked your junk/trash box. 

Received a phone call today from a Bournemouth landline, turns out to be Harrington and Byrne. 

A man called Warren, asked if I wanted to upgrade to a proof version of the 2021 gold sovereign. For only £899! 🤯The 2021 proof sovereign is very special as it’s marked with “95” to celebrate our Majesty the Queen’s birthday. This could then be passed down the generations to my children and grandchildren who will be forever grateful... only a £100 extra payment was required and then a payment plan could be set up.....

So I don’t know if this is a good deal or not? ... I don’t collect gold proofs. Hopefully I don’t get anymore phone calls. 😅
 

7 hours ago, Jamesd said:

@StBeesSilversmacking it out the park. Cheers buddy. Loving the new hallmarks to 😀

You can go and kill some vampires now. xD

Has anyone ordered silver from the EU to ship to the UK since January? 
 

The main appeal ordering from Belgium and Germany was the cheaper VAT.

If you were to place an order now is it certain that you would have to pay VAT on the value of the silver coins or is it a gamble? 
 

is it a requirement that EU sellers have to put a customs declaration on the Parcel they ship out? 

On 26/06/2020 at 11:53, Bullionaire said:

https://harringtonandbyrne.co.uk/2020-united-kingdom-gold-uncirculated-sovereign-4450.html

 

Just watch out for the junk mail that comes along with it. You can email them to ask them to stop sending it. 

Have you dealt with this company before? Their listed address on the website appears to be a rental office. 
 

https://www.regus.co.uk/offices/united-kingdom/london/office-space/london-hanover-square-no-17

... or do they do this to appear exclusive, by renting a Mayfair address?

5 minutes ago, WotNxt said:

I can't work out how to bid online on that website!  I can only conclude that online bidding is only opened when the auction starts.  Will they send me a reminder now that I have set up a login?  (Rhetorical question only lol)

Set a reminder on your phone! Or perhaps, best to phone to confirm.  
 

30 minutes ago, BackyardBullion said:

Found this auction site tonight, lots of coins and bars

Lot 169 looks familiar!

Nice to see that my stuff has been separated from the un-hallmarked silver too. Shows the hallmarks doing their job!

 

Guide price is too low! Even with their 18% audition fee and 3% online fee it’s below spot.

Do auction houses deliberately undervalue items to strike up interest? 

20 minutes ago, Intelteamer said:

Today I received 2018 Kookaburras! 

I love the action captured!  but I just found out there is only one leg. I wonder what happened to the other. 

Beautiful coin! Perhaps Perth Mint are trying to show that disabilities occur in the wild!

From Silber werte...

good prices, very well packaged and lots of colourful literature about some collector coins.

picked up 2 fractionals, dragon bar tube, 1x oriental and my first 10oz coffee coaster!

20 minutes ago, TheApe said:

Are these VAT free?

The price you see, is the price you pay. As they are being shipped from Germany you won't have to pay VAT.

These coins would have travelled more than me this year! From the RM in South Wales to Germany and then back to the UK. 

26 minutes ago, SilverDrum said:

@SilverMagpie 

I was just thinking the same thing, and if i can afford to get another 20 Orientals to fill the tube 🤣 

You'll be lucky to get a tube with 5-6 coins. Dealers like to sell empty tubes and empty monster boxes! perhaps get some 40mm coin capsules... I've seen them on eBay for £10 for 50. The orientals are a good coin at that price, RM may stop minting them this year so there will only be 2017-2020 and mintage limited to 100,000 per year.

@SilverDrum

That's just typical! I placed an order yesterday. I've noticed prices for coins tend to be higher on the weekend whilst the silver market is closed. I only managed to get one oriental yesterday, a tube of dragon bars and some fractional queens beasts. I wonder if you can just call them up to add things onto an order? don't fancy shelling out on postage again. 

19 minutes ago, werewolf said:

https://www.silber-werte.de/epages/sw.sf/secc83326683f/?ObjectPath=/Shops/sw/Products/"32005110000 50"

Very good premium, about 1.5% over spot !!.

Anyone here had any experience with this dealer? Is it trustworthy ?

Well I just placed an order over an hour ago, so i hope so! 🙂

3 hours ago, Kraittos said:

There is the lowest price I found. It is around 21.5-22.5 euros and today it is 20.50 euros so it is not a bad price. I love the bar and it has a mintage so you get a really beautiful bar for a BU price with a mintage

Just ordered a tube of those dragon bars, I have heard theres some issue with quality control though; the sides are all often scratched up or the finish isn't good. Not usual for perth mint tbh!

I just ordered a fat 10oz falcon too from queens beast series, price seemed decent at 215 euros! 

5 minutes ago, SilverDrum said:

Someone snapped up all the oriental's before i could get a tube also! Managed to get 5x single orientals and 2 x tubes of standard Brits. Are you sure it was a month and not three that you got that £14.40 price? I've not seen price's like that for a while 😅 And i just buy what i can to keep the postage looking fair, its not actually that bad was 30euro for my order which is £26.92.

Also i use my Revolt card's euro account giving 1.1069 currently! 

Just checked I placed the order in April but it took a whole 6 weeks before I received them. With vat though it works out £17.28 a coin.

i need to look into this - revolt,  that is a fair rate! 

what are your thoughts on the Australian dragon bars? Is this something that you would consider stacking? 

26 minutes ago, SilverDrum said:

I was soo tempted! Still i manged to end up ordering a bunch of Brit's, price was too good to pass up!

best deal for the Brits going atm! they're out of the oriental boarders now which i don't have....

i got 4 tubes of 2020 brits from gold.co.uk  when they were £14.40 + vat about a month ago.

and got another 4 tubes from STG when they were £18 a coin.

do you use transferwise for fx when paying in euros. my standard bank offer a lousy rate of 1.05 atm. also i note delivery from this company is 20 euros to the UK. How many tubes do you generally buy at a time to soften the postage cost per ounce?

1 hour ago, SilverDrum said:

This mix of 100oz from the link Kraittos shared is also a good deal if you just want ounce's! 100 Troy Oz @ £1768.68 - Spot £1,394.20, Premium £374.48%, 26.857 %

https://www.silber-werte.de/Anlagepaket-1-Kg-Feinsilber/en

Very tempting just to see what you get!

19 minutes ago, Melon said:

Also other legal tender UK coins such as the lunar series or queens beasts etc would be CGT exempt as well. 

You're correct, I didn't know this until you mentioned it!

Its a shame about the VAT on silver, it's ridiculous they charge it considering some coins are legal tender.

It puts UK bullion dealers at a huge disadvantage compared to bullion dealers in the EU where VAT is either lower or non existent on silver.

@WotNxt They are restrikes based on historical coins.

https://coinweek.com/world-coins/the-east-india-company-coins/

The series were probably released to appeal to collectors as they trade at a slight premium compared to standard bullion issue coins.

Unfortunately not CGT free, only silver and gold Britannias along with gold sovereigns are CGT free in the UK. 

But CGT allowance is quite generous £12k+ so unless you had a massive stash you wanted to liquidate or silver goes to the moon, I wouldn't be too concerned about CGT.

If you did have a massive stash to liquidate you could 'CGT harvest' each year and sell up to the CG limit.

29 minutes ago, WotNxt said:

Noob question: How is this a "US" trade dollar with Queen Elizabeth II on it?

It’s the image on the reverse of the coin which depicts a seated Liberty.

There is a UK trade coin in the series with a standing Britannia.

The China and Japan trade coins both have dragons on the reverse.

There’s also a french trade coin with another seated lady figure - like the Statue of Liberty.

5 hours ago, Troy77 said:

I auctioned a few of these here, they didn't do very well

What was the average price that you got per coin? 
 

also what do you think of the dragon coins in this series; China and Japan trade coins? 

https://goldsilver.be/en/miscellaneous/2298-1-oz-silver-us-trade-dollar-2018-2nd-of-the-series-.html

£18.79

The US trade dollar is on discount at the moment, can someone explain why price is relatively low for a coin with 10,000 mintage. Is it because the demand is not there? I think the series looks stunning with the oriental boarder!