Back door delivery

[silverdocket]

 I'd like to pick your brains

 Is there any way of getting the shiny stuff in the door past the Old customs from America?

 

 Can you bring it home in person?

few 10oz coins 

 As always thanks guys and girls 

 

[KitboyE17]

I did it. Just a couple of Eagles tho. If anyone stopped me I was just gonna plead ignorant and put on some good old thick  English charm. 

[Pete]

Check your personal "gift" allowance and that of anyone travelling with you that would help.
Forget the price paid for your silver coins and use spot as true value and you will easily get a tube of Eagles past the authorities without having to declare anything.

[AppleZippoandMetronome]

You are allowed to bring in goods totalling £390 without VAT or Duty being applied. Over that you are obligated to declare it. Whether you do or not is up to you but obviously you are at risk if you don't and you wind up getting checked.

 

https://www.gov.uk/duty-free-goods/arrivals-from-outside-the-eu

[silverdocket]

4 minutes ago, Pete said:

Check your personal "gift" allowance and that of anyone travelling with you that would help.
Forget the price paid for your silver coins and use spot as true value and you will easily get a tube of Eagles past the authorities without having to declare anything.

it wont be me bringing them in so i don't want them getting into trouble... if it was me no problem. something to look into. cheers

[silverdocket]

11 minutes ago, AppleZippoandMetronome said:

You are allowed to bring in goods totalling £390 without VAT or Duty being applied. Over that you are obligated to declare it. Whether you do or not is up to you but obviously you are at risk if you don't and you wind up getting checked.

 

https://www.gov.uk/duty-free-goods/arrivals-from-outside-the-eu

brilliant they can bring 430 euro worth into Ireland

cheers

[Abyss]

52 minutes ago, AppleZippoandMetronome said:

You are allowed to bring in goods totalling £390 without VAT or Duty being applied. Over that you are obligated to declare it. Whether you do or not is up to you but obviously you are at risk if you don't and you wind up getting checked.

 

https://www.gov.uk/duty-free-goods/arrivals-from-outside-the-eu

thank you I will going to the states in 2019 and would like to bring back some silver but I am unsure about the quantity allowed without declaration to customs.

[caloundracats]

I think if it is legal tender in any country, you should be ok. It's when you get into 'collectables' that your gift allowance may kick in.

You could always look the issue up on the Gov. website.

[vand]

If it is govt issued bullion you can declare it at the face value of whatever the coinage is, rather than the silver value.

[sovereignsteve]

20 minutes ago, vand said:

If it is govt issued bullion you can declare it at the face value of whatever the coinage is, rather than the silver value.

surely if that's the case then it would come under currency regulations and be vat exempt even in this country?

[sixgun]

17 minutes ago, sovereignsteve said:

surely if that's the case then it would come under currency regulations and be vat exempt even in this country?

In a Freedom of Information answer i just read the view of the pirates is

Quote

Coins worth more than their face value are rarely or never bought or imported as currency, that is, to spend, deposit, exchange and so on at their face value. Their supply or importation 
is, therefore, not treated as that of currency and VAT is generally due. 

One could argue that you did buy it to pay wages at the face value - the idea of having your company pay you in silver/gold coin at the face value. You get paid £4 which just happens to be in sovereigns. If they are saying the coins are legal tender then they can be used to settle a debt and if they say they can't they aren't legal tender. They want their cake and eat it.

Clearly if there is a family coming back from the US they all should be loaded up with the maximum allowance.

[Tingles]

6 hours ago, sixgun said:

In a Freedom of Information answer i just read the view of the pirates is

One could argue that you did buy it to pay wages at the face value - the idea of having your company pay you in silver/gold coin at the face value. You get paid £4 which just happens to be in sovereigns. If they are saying the coins are legal tender then they can be used to settle a debt and if they say they can't they aren't legal tender. They want their cake and eat it.

Clearly if there is a family coming back from the US they all should be loaded up with the maximum allowance.

Someone must have tried the £4 trick... I can imagine HMRC leaping on that.  My accountant is so timid I could imagine him actually fainting even if I just brought the subject up!

[Goldhooked]

1 hour ago, Tingles said:

Someone must have tried the £4 trick... I can imagine HMRC leaping on that.  My accountant is so timid I could imagine him actually fainting even if I just brought the subject up!

Surely it wouldn’t work with the minimum wage in place.  You would have to be paying them £8 or 8 sovereigns an hour!!  I’d like that job please  

[Tingles]

1 minute ago, Goldhooked said:

Surely it wouldn’t work with the minimum wage in place.  You would have to be paying them £8 or 8 sovereigns an hour!!  I’d like that job please  

I could manage 30mins a week.

[AppleZippoandMetronome]

I would imagine the only way the "face value" argument would fly would be if you are bringing in large amounts of "junk" silver that is still usable as legal tender. In Canada the pre 68 dimes and quarters were 80% silver and a few years earlier the US dimes and quarters were (I think) 90% silver. In Canada those coins haven't changed and the US dime hasn't changed - I'm not 100% sure about the quarter. This is why it is possible to do the old coin roll hunt as people who don't know still get and spend these coins that had silver in them. In theory it seems you could bring €10000 worth of those "junk" silver coins into the country. Whether you'd want to is another thing entirely 🤣

[sovereignsteve]

2 hours ago, Goldhooked said:

Surely it wouldn’t work with the minimum wage in place.  You would have to be paying them £8 or 8 sovereigns an hour!!  I’d like that job please  

The only way I think it could possibly work is if you were getting paid in cash and "officially" getting the minimum wage for a job that warranted for example twice that. You would be paid the majority in real cash with the extra made up in sovereigns.

[Finbinfin]

There is one way... But it wouldn't be shiny anymore! 

[SILVERFINGER]

1 hour ago, Finbinfin said:

There is one way... But it wouldn't be shiny anymore! 

Would be if you had an enema first and lubed them well with some KY, setup a fake website selling sovereign buttplugs, and when you get pulled aside refer them to that website 

[Goldhooked]

1 hour ago, Finbinfin said:

There is one way... But it wouldn't be shiny anymore! 

Brings a whole new meaning to the thread title "Back door delivery"!

[Bullionbilly]

4 minutes ago, SILVERFINGER said:

Would be if you had an enema first and lubed them well with some KY, setup a fake website selling sovereign buttplugs, and when you get pulled aside refer them to that website 

Sounds like you have thought this through 😜

[kimchi]

46 minutes ago, Bullionbilly said:

Sounds like you have thought this through 😜

Was going to say the same thing, seems like meticulous planning to me! 🤣

[StackinJack]

1 hour ago, SILVERFINGER said:

Would be if you had an enema first and lubed them well with some KY, setup a fake website selling sovereign buttplugs, and when you get pulled aside refer them to that website 

Hahaha The details..

[kimchi]

19 minutes ago, StackinJack said:

Hahaha The details..

You should see the 'for research purposes only' vids on @SILVERFINGER's private Youtube channel

 

[StackinJack]

2 minutes ago, kimchi said:

You should see the 'for research purposes only' vids on @SILVERFINGER's private Youtube channel

 

I'm not really sure I want to, vids with such titles.. 😅

[kimchi]

23 minutes ago, StackinJack said:

I'm not really sure I want to, vids with such titles.. 😅

He's very sneaky, he uses clickbait titles like 'how to recharge your batteries', you click on it, and next thing you know you're watching a masked gentleman attach electrodes to his two veg in the middle of a thunderstorm