Sovereign Errors, Overdates and Varieties

[Booky586]

What do you think @GoldDiggerDave, is this a Roman 1? Expensive shield at £645 if it isn't.....

https://www.cambridgeshirecoins.com/products/1846-sovereign-gvf-1

[GoldDiggerDave]

1 hour ago, Booky586 said:

What do you think @GoldDiggerDave, is this a Roman 1? Expensive shield at £645 if it isn't.....

https://www.cambridgeshirecoins.com/products/1846-sovereign-gvf-1

Possibly, photos can mislead at times........gVF  is on the top end of the grade 

[Allgoldcoins]

15 hours ago, Booky586 said:

What do you think @GoldDiggerDave, is this a Roman 1? Expensive shield at £645 if it isn't.....

https://www.cambridgeshirecoins.com/products/1846-sovereign-gvf-1

I would say it is a Roman I:

(If no one buys it this afternoon, I will this evening)

Edited December 9, 2023 by Allgoldcoins

[AndrewSL76]

That’s a nice coin! Looks like it sold. Someone obviously believes in it! Who bought it??!! Own up!!!

I have no good knowledge on the full sovereign varieties, so is the value about right?

[Allgoldcoins]

3 hours ago, AndrewSL76 said:

That’s a nice coin! Looks like it sold. Someone obviously believes in it! Who bought it??!! Own up!!!

I have no good knowledge on the full sovereign varieties, so is the value about right?

It wasn't me, but in this grade NVF I would say £700-£900 is a realistic value.

[AndrewSL76]

1 minute ago, Allgoldcoins said:

It wasn't me, but in this grade NVF I would say £700-£900 is a realistic value.

Thanks for sharing expertise! That’s good to know. Will keep my eyes peeled for more Roman/Arabic variations!!

[Spyder]

What do people think is happening with this coin. Would you say it just from light that makes is seem like something behind the words to the right side of the coin. 

 

[Britannia47]

2 hours ago, Spyder said:

What do people think is happening with this coin. Would you say it just from light that makes is seem like something behind the words to the right side of the coin. 

 

Maybe some Egyptian Hieroglyphics!  Sorry, I can’t help….

 

[paulmerton]

2 hours ago, Spyder said:

What do people think is happening with this coin. Would you say it just from light that makes is seem like something behind the words to the right side of the coin. 

 

Seeing the other side could be insightful for this one.

[Spyder]

54 minutes ago, paulmerton said:

Seeing the other side could be insightful for this one.

The other side is normal with nothing standing out

[Booky586]

It doesn't look like a crack. Could it be a damaged die? It's doesn't look like your regular die clash but could it have stuck a cylindrical object such as a misaligned collar?

I'm just speculating though, I honestly don't know.

[Booky586]

Looking at it again I think the die has clashed with the collar. If you look closely I think I can lines running from the curved mark to the outer edge of the die where the collar reeds have scratched the die. See similar example below:

This image courtesy of: https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?topic_id=339818

Edited December 12, 2023 by Booky586
Image added

[shawy2510]

Have this coming I need to regrade as an error. Partial collar I think

 

[Allgoldcoins]

11 minutes ago, shawy2510 said:

Have this coming I need to regrade as an error. Partial collar I think

 

This doesn't look like an error to me at first glance. Has this coin been previously in a mount?

[Spyder]

3 hours ago, Allgoldcoins said:

This doesn't look like an error to me at first glance. Has this coin been previously in a mount?

This looks like a graded coin from the plastic clips. Would be interested to see what grade it has now.  

Edited December 12, 2023 by Spyder

[dicker]

21 hours ago, Booky586 said:

Looking at it again I think the die has clashed with the collar. If you look closely I think I can lines running from the curved mark to the outer edge of the die where the collar reeds have scratched the die. See similar example below:

This image courtesy of: https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?topic_id=339818

I think you are probably right.  Still an interesting coin to own @Spyder . 

[Spyder]

Some extra photos as I have the coin in hand now.  It is a 1863, first year of die numbers but this has none as the numbers were added to coins in late 63.

This coin is keeper for sure as I have not seen any other sovereign like this.  

Edited December 16, 2023 by Spyder

[Sovhead]

1 hour ago, Spyder said:

Some extra photos as I have the coin in hand now.  It is a 1863, first year of die numbers but this has none as the numbers were added to coins in late 63.

This coin is keeper for sure as I have not seen any other sovereign like this.  

It’s a pity the neck wasn’t numbered….

lovely coin mate.

[Allgoldcoins]

Happy Christmas to you all.

I wonder what the forum makes of this date error in my 1847 sovereign, any ideas?

 

[Petra]

Has the 4 been hit more than one wrongly or is there a 1 under the 4?🤔🤔

[Brit2023]

There’s a rabbit instead of a four..

[Britannia47]

2 hours ago, Allgoldcoins said:

Happy Christmas to you all.

I wonder what the forum makes of this date error in my 1847 sovereign, any ideas?

 

I’ve never been impressed with date stamping on Victoria Young heads - alignment sometimes seems all over the place, and to me every one could be a variety!  Only my opinion. Anyway here’s my 1843 hopefully showing a better ‘4’…..

[AndrewSL76]

1 hour ago, Brit2023 said:

There’s a rabbit instead of a four..

Interesting suggestion. The four does look like a rabbit! The US like to give strange names to variations. Look at their bugs bunny coin from 1955…..the Franklin half dollar…

https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1955-50c-bugs-bunny-fs-401/145357

[SeverinDigsSovereigns]

From PCGS website. Wonder how they made that one...

[Booky586]

On 25/12/2023 at 01:27, SeverinDigsSovereigns said:

From PCGS website. Wonder how they made that one...

A brockage error, one found at Chards this year:

 

 

Edited December 28, 2023 by Booky586
Corrected brockage from blockage 😀